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How come there's fewer handicapped kids around these days?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    They grew up and became adults.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    Abortion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭hightower1


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    There's your answer...

    Perhaps this is the reason?


    <runs :o:D>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    Sarah Palin was right! Death panels!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Thread subject is a bit of a downer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Funfair


    PlainP wrote: »
    You never see handicapped travellers???

    Whats up with that, are they immune to having special needs children??

    I believe it's some sort of dishonor on a traveler family to have a handicapped child and they hand the child up for adoption at birth.

    Then again I also heard it’s because traveler girls usually give birth very young and therefore have less chance of having handicapped children.

    Take your pick ^


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,791 ✭✭✭up for anything


    PlainP wrote: »
    I did hear some awful rumours on what they do with such children but would not post them here as rumours are just vile and usually not true........

    Well done on promulgating that vile rumuor. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    cause ice cream is so expensive


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 714 ✭✭✭PlainP


    Funfair wrote: »
    I believe it's some sort of dishonor on a traveler family to have a handicapped child and they hand the child up for adoption at birth.

    Then again I also heard it’s because traveler girls usually give birth very young and therefore have less chance of having handicapped children.

    Take your pick ^

    I'll take the latter...

    Well done on *promulgating that vile rumuor. :rolleyes:

    Had to look *promulgating up (nice word)

    I never mentioned any rumours so could not be declaring anything (if I understand that word properly) ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    I'm just shocked that the OP said fewer rather than less. Well done you!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Gyalist


    Funfair wrote: »

    I believe it's some sort of dishonor on a traveler family to have a handicapped child and they hand the child up for adoption at birth.

    Then again I also heard it’s because traveler girls usually give birth very young and therefore have less chance of having handicapped children.

    Take your pick ^

    Not quite correct. While older mothers have a higher risk of having a disabled child, most disabled children are born to younger women simply because more younger women give birth.

    More specifically regarding Travellers, it wouldn't surprise me if the incidence of disability is higher as they marry more or less within a closed circle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,791 ✭✭✭up for anything


    PlainP wrote: »
    Had to look *promulgating up (nice word)

    I never mentioned any rumours so could not be declaring anything (if I understand that word properly) ;)

    It's good isn't it - make known by public declaration. That you posted the fact of the rumours means you are spreading them. I'd never heard that before and now it's one of the things I will associate with Travellers despite trying to forget it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    Gyalist wrote: »
    Not quite correct. While older mothers have a higher risk of having a disabled child, most disabled children are born to younger women simply because more younger women give birth.

    More specifically regarding Travellers, it wouldn't surprise me if the incidence of disability is higher as they marry more or less within a closed circle.

    Not necessarily so, in some cases it can be benefical. I remember reading somewhere that having kids with your third cousin can be the most optimal combination of breeding partners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    Mrmoe wrote: »
    Gyalist wrote: »
    Not quite correct. While older mothers have a higher risk of having a disabled child, most disabled children are born to younger women simply because more younger women give birth.

    More specifically regarding Travellers, it wouldn't surprise me if the incidence of disability is higher as they marry more or less within a closed circle.

    Not necessarily so, in some cases it can be benefical. I remember reading somewhere that having kids with your third cousin can be the most optimal combination of breeding partners.

    Hmm was this from a third cousin that was trying to get off with you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    Hmm was this from a third cousin that was trying to get off with you?

    My sexy third cousin that is. Shelbyville Manhattan had the right idea.:D

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23052835/#.T7vlX1Jv7uY
    Couples who are third or fourth cousins tend to have more kids and grandkids than other couples. And though considered somewhat of a cultural taboo, mating between "kissing cousins" makes good biological sense, say scientists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


    What a retarded thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Mrmoe wrote: »
    Not necessarily so, in some cases it can be benefical. I remember reading somewhere that having kids with your third cousin can be the most optimal combination of breeding partners.


    I didn't think that they went as far away as third cousins when they were breeding :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    Abortion.

    Combination of factors but I'd not rule this out as a contributor.
    I remember a study from one of the Scandinavian countries where Down Syndrome is a fraction of what it was in the past due to this main factor.
    Google is letting me down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Vsolid


    really guys!! We are still so far behind where we think we are in society (tut tut tut)

    grow up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Knasher


    Serious answer but I'd put it down to vaccines, the virtual eradication of polio from western countries and the MMR vaccine especially. Rubella (which is the R in MMR) can lead to congenital rubella syndrome if a mother contracts it while she is pregnant. And CRS has a whole range of major birth defects associated with it.

    I'd imagine this is something we will see more of as the anti-vaccine movement seems to be only growing and peoples memory of what the pre-vaccine era fades away, at least until we get a serious outbreak of a preventable disease.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Maybe they're just blending in more as people's fashion taste improves? It always used to annoy me that parents would dress their handicapped children, well eh... handicapped looking. And gave them handicapped looking hair cuts too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭CajunPenguin


    Don't you know? They all got better ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    oh tehyr around alright we just don't recognize it anymoar.

    Or em, for it. I mean..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Battered Mars Bar


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    Are parents more embarrassed than their previous generations to be seen in public with them ?

    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    that Jordan is a good role model never one to shy away from taking hers out in public often pictured with her little chubs spilling out of the pram. To this day..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    LH Pathe wrote: »
    that Jordan is a good role model never one to shy away from taking hers out in public often pictured with fat harvey spilling out of the pram. To this day
    That's an unusual take.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    Got my frankie boyle on there for a second.

    fùckin quick draw mcgraw :/ lost that particular game of hande hoche


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    Gyalist wrote: »
    Not quite correct. While older mothers have a higher risk of having a disabled child, most disabled children are born to younger women simply because more younger women give birth.

    More specifically regarding Travellers, it wouldn't surprise me if the incidence of disability is higher as they marry more or less within a closed circle.


    Was that a guess?

    If so, well done you!

    There is a disorder which is prevalent within both the Irish traveller community and the Amish community called GA1 which is a genetic disorder


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    I brought the kids to the playground last night, one of the mothers had a mildly handicapped child who needed assistance but was really enjoying himself.
    What struck me is how few handicapped children I see nowadays in comparison to growing up in the late 70's, early 80's.
    Are they less visible due to special needs schooling taking them out of the general populace ?.
    Are parents more embarrassed than their previous generations to be seen in public with them ?.
    Are there less children being born with abnormalities due to better diets & supplements taken by the mothers ?.

    Maybe it's just my perception but I took a double take last night as it's been that long since I noticed a child with a handicap.
    Has anyone else noticed this ?.


    Perhaps you just grew up in Offaly or somewhere else like that where people tended to marry close family members


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    yore wrote: »
    Perhaps you just grew up in Offaly or somewhere else like that where people tended to marry close family members

    How could you insult the faithful county, sure didn't it produce one of the finest Taoiseach in our . . . . . . . oh


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