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RTE Frontline Debate on the treaty right now

  • 21-05-2012 08:42PM
    #1
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭


    Should be interesting, although I have to say I'm a bit dismayed to see Declan Ganely for the no side instead of someone like richard Boyd Barrett, but we'll see how they do...
    EDIT: Participants:
    [YES] Tánaiste Eamon Gilmore, Leader of the Labour Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs
    [NO] Mary Lou McDonald, TD for Dublin Central; Vice President of SF
    [NO] Declan Ganley, Business person, Chair of Libertas
    [YES] Norah Casey, Owner and CEO of Harmonica, Dragon RTÉ Television - Dragons' Den


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Comments

  • #2
    Ozymandius2011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Gilmore is wrong. The French are seeking a renegotiation. The French Finance Minister said it.


  • #3
    jwilco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭jwilco


    No side winning so far but it's early in the debate


  • #4
    Mal-Adjusted
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭Mal-Adjusted


    with the exception of ganley (sp?) those opening speeches were woefully patronising.


  • #5
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Nora Casey...'We rich want to get richer, suck it up suckers':rolleyes:


  • #6
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Mal-Adjusted wrote: »
    with the exception of ganley (sp?) those opening speeches were woefully patronising.

    Gilmore's in particular. questioning the intelligence of people who don't vote with you is not a way to win anyone's hearts and minds :rolleyes:


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  • #7
    M cebee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    the no side edges ahead
    Gilmore is floundering


  • #8
    jwilco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭jwilco


    It's getting hard to hear anyone now.


  • #9
    goat2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭goat2


    that irish farmers association man, is making great sense to me.


  • #10
    dots03
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭dots03


    it would be great if people actually discussed the treaty...


  • #11
    Johnny Johnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭Johnny Johnson


    Awful debate


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  • #12
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    PK is floundering....wtf was that about?


  • #13
    Mal-Adjusted
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭Mal-Adjusted


    Johnny Johnson wrote: »
    Awful debate

    the whole thing is a sham. i thought pat was having spasms there for a moment!


  • #14
    sudzs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭sudzs


    "GET A LIFE" :rolleyes:


  • #15
    M cebee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    yes its an awful debate


  • #16
    jwilco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭jwilco


    I thought Kenny was going to propose after going down on one knee:)


  • #17
    goat2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭goat2


    i am listning to ganley, last time we were going to a vote and he was on no side, everything he said came true, this time i guess he is the only one whose word i will beleive


  • #18
    Ozymandius2011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    International trade won't be effected by a no vote despite what the ICMSA man says. We will still be in the EU.


  • #19
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,417 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Can someone please tell me what is Nora Casey doing on this political debate. its a joke that she's on the show.


  • #20
    supernova84
    Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭supernova84


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Can someone please tell me what is Nora Casey doing on this political debate. its a joke that she's on the show.

    I can't stand that woman. She loves bragging about her wealth and nothing else!


  • #21
    johngalway
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    sudzs wrote: »
    "GET A LIFE" :rolleyes:

    Plank strikes again :rolleyes:

    There won't be enough money to bail out everyone, that's true, but that only applies if everyone needs a bail out.

    Agree with Nora Casey, it's about cheap money. Mary Lous quip about failed policy was silly, in this economy how can anyone know what's coming down the tracks in a few years time.

    The ICMSA man I think made a good point, better to have a cheap line of credit and not need it than need it and not have it.

    It's NOT about the CAP. PK was very insulting though and a poor moderator of the debate both with the panel and audience.

    One worrying point that I didn't realise was Gilmore saying we were gone above our IMF limit.


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  • #22
    goat2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭goat2


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Can someone please tell me what is Nora Casey doing on this political debate. its a joke that she's on the show.
    i also think she should not be there, it should be enda,
    is notah well in or related to fine gael


  • #23
    jwilco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭jwilco


    Balance for Ganley as Michael O'Leary was not available I guess. She is poor. No one in business signs a contract before all pages have been cross checked Nora.


  • #24
    flatbackfour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    Pat is showing his bias for the Yes side. He just can't help it.


  • #25
    clappyhappy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,781 ✭✭✭clappyhappy


    Very poor debate, seems like they haven't done their research properly. Pat telling the farmer to get a life was very unprofessional.


  • #26
    hungrypig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭hungrypig


    nora casey is like a bulldog.......a very rude one

    the plank was delighted with the farmers outburst, a bit of excitement in a generally boring show


  • #27
    Ozymandius2011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    The tone of this debate reminds me of that before the Nice I treaty on Q+A. Given the large DK element in the audience this augers well for a no vote.


  • #28
    Happy Monday
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭Happy Monday


    Gilmore reminds me of one of those pigs in Animal Farm.
    He was Che Guevara a couple of years back.
    Now he's fat on power loved being called Tanaiste.
    Tanaiste! :D


  • #29
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,730 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    Very poorly debated. The place seems to be full of no voters.


  • #30
    M cebee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    there's no clarity for the average 4*2 voter
    That nora wan is awful
    The debate is the worst ever


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  • #31
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    Very poorly debated. The place seems to be full of no voters.
    The place seems to be full of absolute morons.


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