European player of the year

ongarite · 21-05-2012 2:52pm

From ERC website:
http://www.ercrugby.com/eng/news/18320.php

LEIN · 21-05-2012 4:14pm

Ruan Pienaar

Nice one Rob, well deserved.

mystic86 · 21-05-2012 6:01pm

durkadurka wrote: »

So, Kearney or sexton then?

Sexton for me after yesterday. Played a great game.

Can't understand people thinking Sexton deserved it, he got 25% in the poll above

how!

durkadurka · 21-05-2012 6:05pm

Jonny Wilkinson

Sexton had a great tournament I would have given it to him no question. Hes the can opener.

Tox56 · 21-05-2012 6:08pm

mystic86 wrote: »

durkadurka wrote: »

So, Kearney or sexton then?

Sexton for me after yesterday. Played a great game.

Can't understand people thinking Sexton deserved it, he got 25% in the poll above how!

I thought Kearey should win, but can understand why some though Sexton, everything good for Leinster came through him.

Happy Monday · 21-05-2012 6:08pm

Has to be.........Didier Drogba!

Teferi · 21-05-2012 6:11pm

Jonny Wilkinson

mystic86 wrote: »

Can't understand people thinking Sexton deserved it, he got 25% in the poll above how!

:rolleyes:

Teferi · 21-05-2012 6:12pm

Jonny Wilkinson

Delighted for Rob.

Next year will be Sextons year.

GerM · 21-05-2012 6:29pm

Jonny Wilkinson

mystic86 wrote: »

Can't understand people thinking Sexton deserved it, he got 25% in the poll above how!

The tournaments top scorer, man of the match in 2 of the 8 games he played and was the biggest reason Leinster didn't lose in their away games all of which were one score games.

I don't know how...

.ak · 21-05-2012 6:45pm

Jonny Wilkinson

mystic86 wrote: »

Can't understand people thinking Sexton deserved it, he got 25% in the poll above how!

Oh yeah... Because we're the yardstick of professional opinion. :rolleyes:

Sexton is THE reason Leinster are fortunate with their current success. He embodies everything they stand for and by far the better all-round football with a wider range of skills than Rob.

Rob's 'come-back' is something of legendary stature, and his performance in the semi and the final makes him a deserved winner.

ROG still should've got it though...

JRant · 21-05-2012 6:48pm

Ruan Pienaar

GerM wrote: »

mystic86 wrote: »

Can't understand people thinking Sexton deserved it, he got 25% in the poll above how!

The tournaments top scorer, man of the match in 2 of the 8 games he played and was the biggest reason Leinster didn't lose in their away games all of which were one score games.

I don't know how...

His defence alone would merit the award.

Delighted for Rob though, he was electric at times this season.

mystic86 · 21-05-2012 9:17pm

GerM wrote: »

The tournaments top scorer, man of the match in 2 of the 8 games he played and was the biggest reason Leinster didn't lose in their away games all of which were one score games.

I don't know how...

Top scorer - kick taker for Leinster, not that hard to be top scorer with all the try conversions and penalties awarded thanks to other players.

"biggest reason Leinster didn't lose in their away games" - an opinion only.

mystic86 · 21-05-2012 9:19pm

.ak wrote: »

Oh yeah... Because we're the yardstick of professional opinion. :rolleyes:

Sexton is THE reason Leinster are fortunate with their current success. He embodies everything they stand for and by far the better all-round football with a wider range of skills than Rob.

Rob's 'come-back' is something of legendary stature, and his performance in the semi and the final makes him a deserved winner.

ROG still should've got it though...

good man, get your dig in, why exactly do you think I think ROG deserves it? What a load of ridiculous tosh,
Kearney deserved it, with room to spare.

Tox56 · 21-05-2012 9:21pm

mystic86 wrote: »

GerM wrote: »

The tournaments top scorer, man of the match in 2 of the 8 games he played and was the biggest reason Leinster didn't lose in their away games all of which were one score games.

I don't know how...

Top scorer - kick taker for Leinster, not that hard to be top scorer with all the try conversions and penalties awarded thanks to other players.

"biggest reason Leinster didn't lose in their away games" - an opinion only.

Would you really disagree with that..?

totallegend · 21-05-2012 9:21pm

Jonny Wilkinson

mystic86 wrote: »

Top scorer - kick taker for Leinster, not that hard to be top scorer with all the try conversions and penalties awarded thanks to other players.

"biggest reason Leinster didn't lose in their away games" - an opinion only.

"European Player of the Year" - the opinion of the judging panel only. What's your point?

Clegg · 21-05-2012 9:24pm

Sexton makes Leinster tick, it's as simple as that. He's probably our best passer he conducts himself brilliantly around the pitch.

What is at that you fail to see in Sexton? Most people would now agree that he's a very good outhalf. One of the very best in Europe.

And he is one of the biggest reasons why Leinster didn't lose their home games. He scored a penalty in the 80th minute to draw the game at Montpellier. Bath and Glasgow away were also very tight games.

21-05-2012 9:27pm

Sexton's the best defensive 10 in the NH. There is no hole for a wide channel at Leinster.

Fishooks12 · 21-05-2012 9:29pm

Ruan Pienaar

Deleted User wrote: »

Sexton's the best defensive 10 in the NH. There is no hole for a wide channel at Leinster.

FYP

mystic86 · 21-05-2012 9:34pm

Clegg wrote: »

What is at that you fail to see in Sexton? Most people would now agree that he's a very good outhalf. One of the very best in Europe.

woah

Hang on there, I agree he's a very good outhalf too! Great at times. Not European player of the year though, which is what I'm commenting on. Just about making the shortlist would be at most what I would agree with. He is surrounded by excellent players.

Fishooks12 · 21-05-2012 9:35pm

Ruan Pienaar

mystic86 wrote: »

woah

Hang on there, I agree he's a very good outhalf too! Great at times. Not European player of the year though, which is what I'm commenting on.

He's just as deserving as Kearney

Without Sexton Leinster may not have won the HC. I think they still would have won it had Kearney been injured

GerM · 21-05-2012 9:36pm

Jonny Wilkinson

mystic86 wrote: »

Top scorer - kick taker for Leinster, not that hard to be top scorer with all the try conversions and penalties awarded thanks to other players.

"biggest reason Leinster didn't lose in their away games" - an opinion only.

Not a bad achievement considering he was injured for one game, wasn't the kicker for another and was taken off early in several others.

As for the away games, he kicked the awkward last minute penalty to draw in Montpellier, provided a masterclass in playing a tight game and defence in Bath (along with scoring all the points) and conjured up the crucial try and made all his tackles whilst playing with one leg in Glasgow. That's before the Clermont game management and kicking performance coupled with absolutely huge defence such as stopping a lock on the charge on his own line in the last minute.

I'm rationalising my opinions. Can you do the same?

irishbucsfan · 21-05-2012 9:39pm

Jonathan Sexton

Sure ROG is better

lologram · 21-05-2012 9:41pm

Jonny Wilkinson

ROG is above European Player of the Year standard

irishbucsfan · 21-05-2012 9:41pm

Jonathan Sexton

Actually I started watching the final there again. Did anyone notice Sexton screaming at one of the back 3 players (McFadden id guess?) before kickoff? He really is a leader in that team.

mystic86 · 21-05-2012 9:42pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Sure ROG is better

:rolleyes:

That's just your opinion DUDE!!

It's not close anymore, the battle between Sexton and O'Gara, why are people thinking because I don't think he would deserve to be European player of the year that this means I think O'Gara is better? Sexton was great, Kearney was better, IMO, and I'm SURPRISED so many people think Sexton would deserve it, IMO.

Tox56 · 21-05-2012 9:43pm

It's not you they're taking the piss out of, it's ROG

mystic86 · 21-05-2012 9:43pm

Tox56 wrote: »

It's not you they're taking the piss out of, it's ROG

hardly a need for that either? why like?

Tox56 · 21-05-2012 9:44pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Actually I started watching the final there again. Did anyone notice Sexton screaming at one of the back 3 players (McFadden id guess?) before kickoff? He really is a leader in that team.

Saw that at the time and I think it was Reddan, thought it was a bit odd but still made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.

Teferi · 21-05-2012 9:49pm

Jonny Wilkinson

Sexton is the very embodiment of Leinster rugby, anyone who can't see that is blinded by their own ignorance and it's not even worth debating it with them.

mystic86 · 21-05-2012 9:50pm

Teferi wrote: »

Sexton is the very embodiment of Leinster rugby, anyone who can't see that is blinded by their own ignorance and it's not even worth debating it with them.

LOL, wow

Seph503 · 22-05-2012 7:34am

Jonny Wilkinson

mystic86 wrote: »

LOL, wow

Everytime Sexton gets the ball it feels like something is going to come from it.

Attacks the line, slick passing, hard tackles and always gives support run options. If that's not Leinster I don't know what is.

Think Farrelly called him the "Commander-in-Chief", not a bad description if you ask me.

rrpc · 22-05-2012 7:45am

Jonny Wilkinson

Delighted for Rob, thoroughly deserved.

Sexton must have been close, but Rob had a more spectacular season. For me though, it's Sexton's leadership and never give up attitude that makes him great.

jacothelad · 22-05-2012 9:15am

Rob Kearney

mystic86 wrote: »

good man, get your dig in, why exactly do you think I think ROG deserves it? What a load of ridiculous tosh,
Kearney deserved it, with room to spare.

'Taking the Ronan' may become a new phrase in everyday use.

Dangerous Man · 22-05-2012 10:52pm

jacothelad wrote: »

'Taking the Ronan' may become a new phrase in everyday use.

You're pulling my rog, surely?

European player of the year

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