Time to abolish communions and confirmations?

Wattle · 21-05-2012 04:31PM

I live near a church and it's absolute bedlam come communion/confirmation time with all the good Christians double parked blocking the roads for hours on end. What would Jesus do? Would Jesus double park?

grindle · 21-05-2012 04:31PM

Tym wrote: »

Did anybody actually get 1000 euro?

My nephew received €1100 at his confirmation.
Got himself a 32" LCD screen, a fückload of PS3 games and paid for a trip to go see an Arsenal match.

Canis Lupus · 21-05-2012 04:32PM

It's not so much the genuinely religious people putting their kids through communion and confirmation (although that's for another debate it's the people who put their kids through it whilst being non practising catholics the rest of the time.

The examiner had a great article on communion there the other day:LINKY

grindle wrote: »

My nephew received €1100 at his confirmation.
Got himself a 32" LCD screen, a fückload of PS3 games and paid for a trip to go see an Arsenal match.

Jebus... that's just not right on any level.... Whilst the amount of money children get these days appalls me it should be put in a bank account for college. I'd be freaking appalled if I gave money to a nephew or niece and learned later they'd spent it on **** like that.

forfuxsake · 21-05-2012 04:32PM

dpe wrote: »

"Cash for Communions" seems to be a particularly Irish phenomenon..

Not really. I reckon €1000 would be about what most Polish children would get too. Considering salaries in Poland are much lower it is sheer madness. Often this is a mixture of gifts(Laptops, i-pads, playstations etc) and cold hard cash. My mother-in-law recently gave her god-daughter 1000zl (€250)for her communion. Her monthly take home pay as a midwife is 1500zl. The same girl got a laptop from her parents and an envelope from lots of other relatives.

Fúckin bonkers.

abouttobebanned · 21-05-2012 04:33PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

OP will be attacked by mobs of skint kids with baseball bats and no new leather-jackets.

Nah..just militant catholics by the looks of it.

flutterflye · 21-05-2012 04:34PM

Wattle wrote: »

I live near a church and it's absolute bedlam come communion/confirmation time with all the good Christians double parked blocking the roads for hours on end. What would Jesus do? Would Jesus double park?

He would magic an extra parking space, and then walk over all the cars.
Or he would do a moses on it and whoosh them all out of his way.

Dravokivich · 21-05-2012 04:37PM

...miniature flags for everybody else?

ejmaztec · 21-05-2012 04:38PM

When did the quaint custom of giving kids a big wad of cash get introduced, and whose bright idea was it?

foxyboxer · 21-05-2012 04:43PM

We can't abolish them.

Because we wouldn't be able to insult tight people with the "I bet you still have your communion money and all!"

:pac:

fishy fishy · 21-05-2012 04:44PM

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Seriously - what's the point? The child neither knows nor cares about the religious significance of the event. About 70% of them are children of parents who don't go to mass (figure pulled out of my ass). And tell me, why does a 12 year old need 1 thousand euro (what a relative recently made).

Get rid of it and let it be the start of the religious cull.

sheesh, next you'll be saying get rid of Santa and the Easter bunny - were you never young? or is it just cause you had your go, you don't want anyone else to have theirs.

think of the kids will ya.

LordSutch · 21-05-2012 04:47PM

I have always wondered about 1st Communions at seven years of age! I mean how can a seven year old know what its all about? and what's with the monetary gifts? expensive dresses/suits/makeup/limos, etc etc, almost like some kinda mafiosa inauguration of a child into "the family".

Scrap the 1st communions at seven I say, and let them be confirmed at age fourteen of fifteen years of age, when they are more mature and might know a little bit more about the Religious event and what it signifies.

shopaholic01 · 21-05-2012 04:48PM

I'm not religious and I am sick of having to give kids money for communions and confirmations. Best way to reduce the numbers? The CC should only allow families who have attended mass weekly since the child's baptism to attend these ceremonies - guaranteed to be small affairs then.

Pherekydes · 21-05-2012 04:49PM

Anyone wrote: »

Report them to the Revenue.

mikemac1 wrote: »

Did she declare that money to Michael Noonan?

For what?

Maybe a trip to revenue.ie is in order.

For you two!

21-05-2012 04:49PM

abolish them no, but certainly take them out of school hours

southcentralts · 21-05-2012 04:50PM

The good aul days renouncing santa and all his pagan ways.

Benny_Cake · 21-05-2012 04:50PM

LordSutch wrote: »

scrap the 1st communions at seven I say, and let them be confirmed at age fourteen of fifteen years of age, when they are more mature and might know a little bit more about the Religious event and what it signifies.

14 or 15? I say it should be moved to 33,I could really use a couple of hundred euro right now.

It isn't just a Catholic thing though, coming of age ceremonies always involve gifts of some description. Bar/Bat Mitzvah's for example.

foxyboxer · 21-05-2012 04:50PM

If you were an altar boy, you got to make your communion, confirmation and consummation.

shopaholic01 · 21-05-2012 04:50PM

fishy fishy wrote: »

sheesh, next you'll be saying get rid of Santa and the Easter bunny - were you never young? or is it just cause you had your go, you don't want anyone else to have theirs.

think of the kids will ya.

Kids are eventually told/realise that santa and the easter bunny aren't real.
Catholics are supposed to believe in god for life.

xsiborg · 21-05-2012 04:52PM

another religion thread? not only did jesus weep at this stage, but moses was in floods!

for people that claim to be so clever as not to believe in sky fairies and what not, its fairly telling that some of ye cant even find the religion forum for all these threads!

Brinimartini · 21-05-2012 04:52PM

about time too.

silly · 21-05-2012 04:53PM

I was told by the principal at my daughters school, that in the not so distant furture, the communions and confirmations will not be done through the school, but through the church. So i presume some type of "Sunday School" type thing like they do in America.

Run_to_da_hills · 21-05-2012 04:54PM

It should be up to the child to decide what he wants to do and that also includes baptism.

flutterflye · 21-05-2012 04:54PM

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Kids are eventually told/realise that santa and the easter bunny aren't real.
Catholics are supposed to believe in god for life.

The smart ones figure it out at some point on their own though.

flutterflye · 21-05-2012 04:55PM

xsiborg wrote: »

another religion thread? not only did jesus weep at this stage, but moses was in floods!

for people that claim to be so clever as not to believe in sky fairies and what not, its fairly telling that some of ye cant even find the religion forum for all these threads!

Is that supposed to be English you are speaking?

fishy fishy · 21-05-2012 04:57PM

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Kids are eventually told/realise that santa and the easter bunny aren't real.
Catholics are supposed to believe in god for life.

you do KNOW that all those miracles and parables are just stories dont' ya.

why begrudge the kids of a day out dressed up. Adults do it when they get married.

ejmaztec · 21-05-2012 04:59PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

It should be up to the child to decide what he wants to do and that also includes baptism.

The priests ignore the screaming and give em a good soaking anyway.

Yakult · 21-05-2012 04:59PM

Good way of getting new/future cult members, while they are young and unaware of the evil that is the Catholic church.

Pushtrak · 21-05-2012 05:02PM

andy1249 wrote: »

Religion is an artificial social construct , its social rites being a big part of it. Take away the religion and you still have a human need for social coming of age markers and get togethers , whether they be based on religion or not.

If only there were an annual thing to do such a thing maybe religion wouldn't be necessary... Oh, wait..

shopaholic01 · 21-05-2012 05:03PM

fishy fishy wrote: »

you do KNOW that all those miracles and parables are just stories dont' ya.

why begrudge the kids of a day out dressed up. Adults do it when they get married.

Yes, that was my point.
Some kids have to wear their uniforms now to stop the 'big fat gypsy communion' nonsense some parents insist on.

Wattle · 21-05-2012 05:03PM

silly wrote: »

I was told by the principal at my daughters school, that in the not so distant furture, the communions and confirmations will not be done through the school, but through the church. So i presume some type of "Sunday School" type thing like they do in America.

Sunday School? As if Sunday's aren't boring enough when your a kid.

Time to abolish communions and confirmations?

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