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NI man mistake Italian flag for Irish

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  • #182
    Fenian Army
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    Dudess wrote: »
    Well he's Irish himself - but he has a highly amusing thing going on where he licks up to loyalists... as if they'd welcome him. :)

    They'd give him a great "welcome" all right, might even show him the romper room!


  • #183
    Ruralyoke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 213 ✭✭Ruralyoke


    Nodin wrote: »
    ... non-sectarian party..

    A bit rich.

    SF may not ideologically or outwardly sectarian but their members happen to partially be comprised of former members of an illegal organisation, who on occasion, thought nothing of murdering protestant civilians.


  • #184
    Fenian Army
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    Hasn't been mentioned yet, but I'm sure the motivation for Willies bile is to stir up tensions for marching season, painting school kids as targets.

    Vile, vile man.


  • #185
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Ruralyoke wrote: »
    A bit rich.

    SF may not idealogically or outwardly sectarian..........

    Thats what I said. They aren't a sectarian organisation. One of the founders of the PIRA was a protestant. So no, theres no comparison between them, and a frothing bigot.


  • #186
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Ruralyoke wrote: »
    SF may not ideologically or outwardly sectarian but their members happen to partially be comprised of former members of an illegal organisation, who on occasion, thought nothing of murdering protestant civilians.
    Yeah I'd still think of SF as being sectarian.


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  • #187
    Ruralyoke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 213 ✭✭Ruralyoke


    Nodin wrote: »
    Thats what I said. They aren't a sectarian organisation. One of the founders of the PIRA was a protestant. So no, theres no comparison between them, and a frothing bigot.

    So would you or would you not describe IRA murders of protestant civilians as sectarian?

    And do you or do you not accept that SF comprise partially of former IRA members?

    The link is hardly tenuous.


  • #188
    J Cheever Loophole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭J Cheever Loophole


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    More fool for the school taking down the flags, idiots all round.

    I wasn't aware that the school had taken the flags down, but if they did you can be pretty sure it was done in the interests (safety) of the kids who attend the school and the school itself.

    It ain't all about making a stand and getting one over the other side up here - common sense has to come into it too, and given the publicity that has been stirred up here, the school is now in the public eye. There are any amount of idiots up here only too willing to use any excuse for a mindless act of violence.


  • #189
    philstar
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭philstar


    Nodin wrote: »
    Thats what I said. They aren't a sectarian organisation. One of the founders of the PIRA was a protestant. So no, theres no comparison between them, and a frothing bigot.

    just because they had a few renegade prods in their ranks didn't make them any less sectarian....look at the kingsmill massascre the catholic bus driver was told to run away and the protestant workmen left behind were machine gunned

    protestants living along the border have always been targeted by the provos


  • #190
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Dudess wrote:
    Yeah I'd still think of SF as being sectarian.

    You'd better tell the protestants in its ranks.
    Ruralyoke wrote: »
    So would you or would you not describe IRA murders of protestant civilians as sectarian?.

    Such acts against civillians were sectarian yes. However the organisation and its aims were not sectarian in intent. Nor is the current SF organisation.

    why are you so eager to talk about SF in a thread about willie frazer?


  • #191
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    philstar wrote: »
    just because they had a few renegade prods in their ranks didn't make them any less sectarian....

    So just because theres a few examples of them being not sectarian, they're sectarian. Great stuff.


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  • #192
    Fenian Army
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    What does SF have to do with this?


  • #193
    philstar
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭philstar


    Fenian Army wrote: »
    What does SF have to do with this?

    those in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones, the pot calling the kettle black etc etc


  • #194
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    philstar wrote: »
    those in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones, the pot calling the kettle black etc etc
    Who's throwing stones?


  • #195
    Spread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    Dudess wrote: »
    Yeah I'd still think of SF as being sectarian.

    Then obviously you were not in the ranks of the hundreds of thousands that voted for them. Making a statement like that makes you a ....... kinda sectarian. Being so bigoted that you can't see through the fog.


  • #196
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    philstar wrote: »
    those in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones, the pot calling the kettle black etc etc


    Gerry Adams intervened on behalf of some members of the protestant community in Willie Frazers area. Find me an example of the other side of that from Willie.


  • #197
    Fenian Army
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    Dudess wrote: »
    Who's throwing stones?
    Rather mad logic, some Irish vote for SF so all Irish people collectively cant criticize bigots.


    Its like the all catholics are in the ra nonsense


  • #198
    Crooked Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,679 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    Someone on Boards has taken an unrelated thread and attempted to turn it into yet another anti-Sinn Fein circle jerk? I'm in shock.


  • #199
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Crooked Jack wrote: »
    Someone on Boards has taken an unrelated thread and attempted to turn it into yet another anti-Sinn Fein circle jerk? I'm in shock.


    Its to defend Willie Frazer, so all in a good cause.


  • #200
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Spread wrote: »
    Then obviously you were not in the ranks of the hundreds of thousands that voted for them. Making a statement like that makes you a ....... kinda sectarian. Being so bigoted that you can't see through the fog.
    Wow. One comment based on SF being closely linked to the IRA which killed people for being protestant, hence my logic... and I'm so bigoted I can't see through the fog? I'd suggest you read my other posts instead of coming out with stupid and untrue statements.


  • #201
    Ruralyoke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 213 ✭✭Ruralyoke


    Nodin wrote: »
    why are you so eager to talk about SF in a thread about willie frazer?

    I'm not - merely questioning your assertion that SF are a non-sectarian party.

    It's not quite that simple.


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  • #202
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Fenian Army wrote: »
    Rather mad logic, some Irish vote for SF so all Irish people collectively cant criticize bigots.


    Its like the all catholics are in the ra nonsense
    Typical self flagellating tripe from a few insecure Irish people. "You're white, you can't criticise the KKK!"

    Derp.


  • #203
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Ruralyoke wrote: »
    I'm not - merely questioning your assertion that SF are a non-sectarian party.

    It's not quite that simple.


    ......SF are a non-sectarian party.

    I find it odd you choose to debate that particular issue in a thread about somebody who is, without doubt, a rabid sectarian bigot.


  • #204
    philstar
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭philstar


    Nodin wrote: »
    ......SF are a non-sectarian party.

    I find it odd you choose to debate that particular issue in a thread about somebody who is, without doubt, a rabid sectarian bigot.

    he went to a catholic school he played GAA as a boy, when the troubles started his neighbours turned against him...four of his closest relatives were killed by the IRA...i'm NOT condoning the guy but thats the reason he is ..the way he is ....as others said he needs to be pityed more than anything

    if four members of your family were murdered, wouldn't that have a huge effect on you????


  • #205
    Crooked Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,679 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    philstar wrote: »
    he went to a catholic school he played GAA as a boy, when the troubles started his neighbours turned against him...four of his closest relatives were killed by the IRA...i'm NOT condoning the guy but thats the reason he is ..the way he is ....as others said he needs to be pityed more than anything

    if four members of your family were murdered, wouldn't that have a huge effect on you????

    What neighbours turned against him? There was a war on, a war they actively participated in by joining the security forces. Dont try to paint it so that it looks like the IRA targeted the Frazer family. They targeted the UDR/RUC.

    many people from all sides suffered during the conflict, it didnt turn them all into rabid bigots. Case in point, on his facebook today he states he actually likes to see the tricolour in the north but only when "it's draped over a box with some Sinn Fein/IRA member in it."

    http://www.facebook.com/william.frazer.58

    That's not grief or anger. That's just hatred.


  • #206
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    philstar wrote: »
    if four members of your family were murdered, wouldn't that have a huge effect on you????
    Of course it would. :confused:
    Huge effect isn't = turning someone into a hateful bigot.


  • #207
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Some people lose loved ones and become very dignified peace campaigners. Gordon Wilson, who's daughter died in front of him as a result of the Enniskillen bombing, being a prime example.

    Many people who lost loved ones in the north asked that no retaliation be carried out in their name and only sought and end to the conflict.

    Frazer is the opposite - he's pathetic.


  • #208
    LordSutch
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    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    Some people lose loved ones and become very dignified peace campaigners. Gordon Wilson, who's daughter died in front of him as a result of the Enniskillen bombing, being a prime example.

    Many people who lost loved ones in the north asked that no retaliation be carried out in their name and only sought and end to the conflict.

    Frazer is the opposite - he's pathetic.

    I don't know, its a tough call having your Dad + several other members of your family murdered by a group who then justify their actions! I guess many a sane man would go bonkers with rage & grief. Obvioulsy Gordon Wilson is made of sterner stuff than Mr Frazer. However, maybe Willie was already deranged, bitter & bigoted before the murders of his family?


  • #209
    mikeym
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,991 ✭✭✭mikeym


    Mr. Frazer should follow big Ians footsteps and set up a new religious group of bible bashers!


  • #210
    bruschi
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,149 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    thread may have gone onto serious (or not) political debate. I still think this is hillarious though
    Chamone MF wrote: »
    No blue on the flag ....
    Get to specsavers.
    Perhaps you could magnify it many times, or ask a fully sighted friend to tell you.
    Here's a clue: the Turkish flag (thats the one on the right for you) and the Italian flag both come quite close to the top of the flagpole. While the flag on the left cannot if there are only two colours.
    I'm posting you a copy in braille.

    someone thinking that the sky above the flag is part of the flag, and claiming it to be the Russian flag. Never mind that the Russian flag has blue in the middle of the red and white, so it couldnt even be remotely confused with the blue sky at the top of it. And to defend themselves so confidently too when they are being utterly (and hillariously) wrong. I'd love to see the copy of the flag in braille tho!

    Anyway, back to sinn fein, IRA UDF etc.


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  • #211
    philstar
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭philstar


    philstar wrote: »
    just because they had a few renegade prods in their ranks didn't make them any less sectarian....
    Nodin wrote: »
    So just because theres a few examples of them being not sectarian, they're sectarian. Great stuff.

    it doesn't absolve them of sectarian acts like kingsmill, teebane, darkley, enniskillen, le mon etc

    and yes they do have sectarian bigots in their ranks...i've been amongst northern shinners i've heard them talking about "prods" "orange bastards" "huns" in a hateful way


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