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Baby delivery tragedy [Caution advised]

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  • #62
    Abi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    hondasam wrote: »
    I think it might make some women opt out of giving birth naturally.
    I agree, all because of a hospitals incompetence.
    Biggins wrote: »
    I'm not telling my wife of this article.
    I know how it would effect her.

    I'm not telling her because I love her.
    Totally understandable Biggins. Though hypothetically speaking, if your wife was due to give birth in THAT hospital theres no way you'd hear of it.

    Thats the reason why the public need to know. Horrific as it is, people need to know about it.
    phasers wrote: »
    Jesus, what kind of force must have been involved for that to happen!?

    Someone seriously incompetent and not willing to admit when they're in trouble.


  • #63
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Abi wrote: »
    ...Thats the reason why the public need to know. Horrific as it is, people need to know about it.

    True, very true...
    Lord knows I know of cases where things have been covered up myself (and later exposed - but thats a topic for another thread) - but your right, such things to happen and I suspect more so than we will ever know.


  • #64
    mardybumbum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭mardybumbum


    I decided to read that link as I have an Obs/Gynae exam in a few weeks. Seriously wish I hadn't now.
    Can't begin to imagine how everybody involved must feel.


  • #65
    brummytom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    He should be struck off. Horrible.


  • #66
    cgarrad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭cgarrad


    They pulled the baby's head off while delivering it.

    I was hoping for a lot worse ;-D


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  • #67
    Abi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    ziggy23 wrote: »
    But never trust a doctor when they tell you what weight a baby is going to be, they usually get it completely wrong.
    I completely respect what you're saying Ziggy, but all they can do is estimate. Antenatal will weigh you before the birth, feel about to try estimate the size, but thats all that it is. An estimate. A lot of water weight etc carried.. all they can do is judge as best they can to decide how best handle a birth. Taking the mothers height and weight into account, there are a lot of variables.

    But I'll tell you this much, a 12lb kid was coming out with it's school bag on, how you could judge that so badly just baffles me.

    God today is not a good day for my nerves. Seen a picture of a dog with its ears infested with ticks and haven't been able to eat since and now this terrible story. Sometimes it's just better not to click:(

    As awful as it is, its reality. We can stick our heads in the sand, but it doesn't stop it being any less real.


  • #68
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    cgarrad wrote: »
    They pulled the baby's head off while delivering it.

    I was hoping for a lot worse ;-D

    Really what could possibly be worse?


  • #69
    KamiKazeKitten
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭KamiKazeKitten


    cgarrad wrote: »
    They pulled the baby's head off while delivering it.

    I was hoping for a lot worse ;-D

    I worry for you if you did.


  • #70
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Horrible story but what weight is your average baby boy?


  • #71
    flutterflye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    Horrible story but what weight is your average baby boy?

    7 or 8 lbs


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  • #72
    BBDBB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    cgarrad wrote: »
    They pulled the baby's head off while delivering it.

    I was hoping for a lot worse ;-D


    Ive tried to maintain that for the sake of optimism and the human spirit being unquenchable that humour can be found in the most difficult and tragic of situations. I was wrong. You crossed the line dude.


  • #73
    Cailleachdubh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭Cailleachdubh


    7 - 10 pounds or thereabouts...10 would be considered big though.


  • #74
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    cgarrad wrote: »
    They pulled the baby's head off while delivering it.

    I was hoping for a lot worse ;-D

    Even if you are joking, I worry for your mentality. Perhaps you should seek professional help?


  • #75
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Abi wrote: »

    But I'll tell you this much, a 12lb kid was coming out with it's school bag on, how you could judge that so badly just baffles me.

    It should never be natural birth with a baby this size. If I were pregnant now that story would traumatise and haunt me.


  • #76
    Greentopia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭Greentopia


    Zillah wrote: »
    Its tragic and all but people are being completely hysterical about it in this thread. Read the article, it's not that bad.

    It's horrific and very sad but it was seen as being fit to print in a daily newspaper and it's not like there were graphic photos of it so I don't know why there's hysteria about it being linked to on this website as long as a warning is given that it will upset some people.


  • #77
    Scioch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Scioch


    That doctor must feel some bad. I've made mistakes in the past where I just wanted the ground to open up and swallow me whole but to pull a new born child's head off........ I dunno how you'd deal with that.

    Thats not to ignore the death of the child or the mothers grief now, that goes without saying.


  • #78
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    i think the mother should sue,how the hell can that happen..there is no way you can live that down after going through such a needless trauma like that..im just totally beside myself after reading it how horrific that is,i just cannot believe it,absolutely one of the worst case scenarios when thinking about birth..


  • #79
    Gummy Panda
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    flutterflye wrote: »
    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    Horrible story but what weight is your average baby boy?

    7 or 8 lbs

    How come the baby got so big?


  • #80
    flutterflye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    How come the baby got so big?

    I don't know! I wasn't there!
    Maybe she was overdue, or her dates were wrong?


  • #81
    Cailleachdubh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭Cailleachdubh


    Maternal or gestational diabetes can cause foetal macrosomia (overlarge foetus) if not controlled or if it goes unrecognised.


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  • #82
    hondasam
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    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    How come the baby got so big?

    Some babies are bigger that's all. 12lb is unusual.


  • #83
    Aoifey!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭Aoifey!


    Wow, that really is an awful story. But these sorts of things do need publicity instead of being swept under the rug.


  • #84
    mardybumbum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭mardybumbum


    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    flutterflye wrote: »
    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    Horrible story but what weight is your average baby boy?

    7 or 8 lbs

    How come the baby got so big?

    Could be maternal/gestational diabetes or simply constitutional macrosomia.


  • #85
    flutterflye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    mardybumbum wrote: »
    Could be maternal/gestational diabetes or simply constitutional macrosomia.

    What?? :)
    (We aren't all midwives here! :)


  • #86
    Abi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    Horrible story but what weight is your average baby boy?

    Times have changed Panda. I weighed in at just over 5lbs. babies these days are double that. My 7st aunt had a 11lb baby by section. There was no fúcking way that was coming out the natural route.


  • #87
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    mardybumbum wrote: »
    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    flutterflye wrote: »
    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    Horrible story but what weight is your average baby boy?

    7 or 8 lbs

    How come the baby got so big?

    Could be maternal/gestational diabetes or simply constitutional macrosomia.

    Actually now that you say that it reminds me of a girl I worked with that had a large birth to maternal diabetes.


  • #88
    branbee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭branbee


    Without being graphic i cannot see how it actually happened. I know that occasionally a child's arm can be broken during a difficult labour but this...?? Off? God love everyone involved. Horrific stuff for all involved. That poor family.

    And hopefully any expectant parents can see that as real as this tragedy is it is a rare freak accident. It is a horrible thing to think about and it relays fears that all parents have but every day perfectly healthy babies are delivered with little problems so please don't dwell on this. I know easier said than done.


  • #89
    mardybumbum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭mardybumbum


    flutterflye wrote: »
    mardybumbum wrote: »
    Could be maternal/gestational diabetes or simply constitutional macrosomia.

    What?? :)
    (We aren't all midwives here! :)

    Sorry, constitutional refers to a large baby secondary to large parents to put it simply.
    I'd imagine that constitutional factors wouldn't be responsible for such a large baby though.

    I'm not familiar with the standards of prenatal care in Brazil but you would imagine the large size of the baby would be evident on Ultrasound scan + physical examination???


  • #90
    Cailleachdubh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭Cailleachdubh


    Granted, this should never have happened in a hospital and it certainly raises some serious issues about the establishment concerned.

    On the other hand, if the woman had been nowhere near a hospital she almost certainly would have died in labour herself, trying to give birth to such a big baby naturally. This unfortunately still happens all over the world in places where women have no access to good medical services. It's a horrible tragedy but an ongoing reality for many people :(


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  • #91
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    im grossed out after that euch it sickening i cant even imagine the horror of the exepectant parents and all involved its just so tragic


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