Back in my day...

Crooked Jack · 17-05-2012 02:10PM #1

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with young people today?
Im only 26 so I dont want to come across like some old fogie giving out about young uns and their hippity hoppity music, but Christ, **** like this is becoming more and more common. My job sees me in court a lot and cases like this come up all the time

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-18086599

Funkfield · 17-05-2012 02:12PM

...was pronounced "báck". Note the fada,

toexpress · 17-05-2012 02:14PM

That is very scary I mean we seem to be producing more and more psychopatic types all the time.

I know it might sound a bit odd but if you ever pan through the Sky there are shows on during the day (repeats) that were deemed unsuitable for pre-watershed viewing when I was a kid (am 31)

Kids don't have manners anymore either I always think it's odd the way neighbours kids refer to me by my first name. Again very small by comparison to the post from the OP but the problems have to start somewhere raising children seems to have changed dramatically and not for the better

a fat guy · 17-05-2012 02:15PM

I thought the judges name was "Tom Bugger" for a second there...

Chuck Stone · 17-05-2012 02:15PM

Crooked Jack wrote: »

My job sees me in court a lot and cases like this come up all the time

You're a burglar?

Reoil · 17-05-2012 02:16PM

Here's an idea: this **** has always happened - at least now people are finding out and reporting it.
Catholic priest abuse scandal? Ring any bells? **** was happening "back in your day" too and long before...

westendgirlie · 17-05-2012 02:18PM

I clicked the link but No Way could I bring myself to read more than the headline.

Crooked Jack · 17-05-2012 02:18PM

Reoil wrote: »

Here's an idea: this **** has always happened - at least now people are finding out and reporting it.
Catholic priest abuse scandal? Ring any bells? **** was happening "back in your day" too and long before...

I was more referring to the increasingly young age of the offenders of these types of crimes.

Crooked Jack · 17-05-2012 02:19PM

Chuck Stone wrote: »

You're a burglar?

A judge. Judge Dredd

Caliden · 17-05-2012 02:23PM

Reoil wrote: »

Here's an idea: this **** has always happened - at least now people are finding out and reporting it.
Catholic priest abuse scandal? Ring any bells? **** was happening "back in your day" too and long before...

Didn't know they let 14 year olds into the priesthood

blacklilly · 17-05-2012 02:25PM

I think it basically boils down to bad parenting in most cases.

I come across alot of anti social behavious from youths in my line of work and it never ceases to amaze me just how little concern these kids have for others.

They have no boundarys and usually come from families where communication isn't great.

Unfortuentely many of these kids will continue a life of destruction for themselves and others.

They may have children themselves and so the circle begins again.

hairyprincess · 17-05-2012 02:27PM

Crooked Jack wrote: »

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with young people today?
Im only 26 so I dont want to come across like some old fogie giving out about young uns and their hippity hoppity music, but Christ, **** like this is becoming more and more common. My job sees me in court a lot and cases like this come up all the time

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-18086599

Dear Lord, that is horrendous. Where do you begin to fix it?

Crooked Jack · 17-05-2012 02:27PM

Does anyone know what his sentence is likely to be. How long can you actually give a 14 year old

maximoose · 17-05-2012 02:28PM

Reoil wrote: »

Here's an idea: this **** has always happened - at least now people are finding out and reporting it.
Catholic priest abuse scandal? Ring any bells? **** was happening "back in your day" too and long before...

Exactly. **** like this has always gone on, we just have so much media in our lives now you hear about it much easier.

Same with natural disasters.."Ohhhhh look at all the tsunamis and earthquakes these days, the mayans were right the world is ending"

NO IT'S NOT YOU F*CKING MUPPETS

christmas2012 · 17-05-2012 02:30PM

that is sick,but sick today could mean 'cool',there is no value on humanity today a lot of it is this pop and porn culture,years ago nobody had internet to look at porn all day or have transparent views on certain issues,you were expected to have an opinion of value,earn your grades etc,not spoonfed them,today its all very ambiguous and superficial..

Dudess · 17-05-2012 02:32PM

Rape of a small child, kids not calling adults Mr/Mrs/Miss whatever (Jesus I'd cringe if someone referred to me by a title) - does not compute.

du Maurier · 17-05-2012 02:33PM

Crooked Jack wrote: »

A judge. Judge Dredd

Judge Mental

Crooked Jack · 17-05-2012 02:35PM

maximoose wrote: »

Exactly. **** like this has always gone on, we just have so much media in our lives now you hear about it much easier.

Same with natural disasters.."Ohhhhh look at all the tsunamis and earthquakes these days, the mayans were right the world is ending"

NO IT'S NOT YOU F*CKING MUPPETS

You're missing the point, i'm referring to the age of the offender more than the offense. Nothing to do with clerical abuse or...ahem...tsunamis

ScumLord · 17-05-2012 02:36PM

Crooked Jack wrote: »

I was more referring to the increasingly young age of the offenders of these types of crimes.

A 14 year old could have been married and in full time work in the past. Allowing people to avoid adulthood into their late teens is a fairly new thing really. That this is seen as so bad now is really progress as it may have likely been ignored in the past.

hairyprincess · 17-05-2012 02:36PM

Crooked Jack wrote: »

Does anyone know what his sentence is likely to be. How long can you actually give a 14 year old

He needs rehabilitation. But will he get it? Doubtful.

His parents should be held to account to some extent

Shryke · 17-05-2012 02:38PM

Children are highly impressionable and not marked for forbearance. It doesn't take a scientific study to see the impact media exposure has on children. Desensitization to moral wrongs, violence and abuse is happening from a young age.
This kind of thing used to happen less and when it did it was more from ignorance or because the abusers themselves were abused. While this can still be the case there's a growing number of really messed up cases where the act is more reprehensible in nature.
Something like this shouldn't be able to happen even once in a first world country and it's hard to believe that the boys parents aren't somewhat at fault. That's where the responsibility lies, unless the child is Hitler incarnate or something.

It's a really crap world sometimes.

St.Spodo · 17-05-2012 02:41PM

christmas2012 wrote: »

that is sick,but sick today could mean 'cool',there is no value on humanity today a lot of it is this pop and porn culture,years ago nobody had internet to look at porn all day or have transparent views on certain issues,you were expected to have an opinion of value,earn your grades etc,not spoonfed them,today its all very ambiguous and superficial..

Sweet jesus.

hooradiation · 17-05-2012 02:42PM

ITT - Recall bias gone wild!

Mr Benevolent · 17-05-2012 02:43PM

toexpress wrote: »

Kids don't have manners anymore either I always think it's odd the way neighbours kids refer to me by my first name.

Do you want them to refer to you as Sir or Your Grace?

that is sick,but sick today could mean 'cool',there is no value on humanity today a lot of it is this pop and porn culture,years ago nobody had internet to look at porn all day or have transparent views on certain issues,you were expected to have an opinion of value,earn your grades etc,not spoonfed them,today its all very ambiguous and superficial..

What. The. Actual. Fuck?

Are you serious? What age are you, pray tell?

OldNotWIse · 17-05-2012 02:45PM

Probably be shot for saying this but I believe anyone capable of carrying out adult acts shuld be tried as an adult.

kylith · 17-05-2012 02:47PM

toexpress wrote: »

That is very scary I mean we seem to be producing more and more psychopatic types all the time.

I know it might sound a bit odd but if you ever pan through the Sky there are shows on during the day (repeats) that were deemed unsuitable for pre-watershed viewing when I was a kid (am 31)

Kids don't have manners anymore either I always think it's odd the way neighbours kids refer to me by my first name. Again very small by comparison to the post from the OP but the problems have to start somewhere raising children seems to have changed dramatically and not for the better

This:

Reoil wrote: »

Here's an idea: this **** has always happened - at least now people are finding out and reporting it.
Catholic priest abuse scandal? Ring any bells? **** was happening "back in your day" too and long before...

The rates of abuse, murder, teenage delinquency etc haven't gone up by much, if at all. It's just that these days we're hearing about it. People have been bemoaning 'the youth of today' and 'the decline of society' since the year dot.

As for the 'calling adults by their forenames' that's also completely rubbish. Both my OH and I called all our uncles, aunts, and neighbours by their forenames and we're in our thirties. I hate it when my nieces and nephews call me Auntie Kylith; my name is not Auntie.

Reoil · 17-05-2012 02:47PM

Crooked Jack wrote: »

You're missing the point, i'm referring to the age of the offender more than the offense.

Sorry, what age were Jamie Bulger's murders?

prinz · 17-05-2012 02:50PM

Dudess wrote: »

Rape of a small child, kids not calling adults Mr/Mrs/Miss whatever (Jesus I'd cringe if someone referred to me by a title) - does not compute.

Nobody is arguing they are the same but there is definitely a change for the worse in how a lot of younger people are developing a major chip on their shoulders which is resulting in mindless thuggery... and no amount of 'it happened back in the day too' is accurate. Yes shít happened back in the day, but nowhere close to the same extent and as widespread. Anti-social behaviour is becoming second nature to a lot of the younger generations at younger ages and it's absolutely pointless to pretend nothing has changed over time, because it obviously has. Perhaps you're more insulated to it, but I'm not and plenty of others aren't.

Mr Benevolent · 17-05-2012 02:53PM

prinz wrote: »

Nobody is arguing they are the same but there is definitely a change for the worse in how a lot of younger people are developing a major chip on their shoulders which is resulting in mindless thuggery... and no amount of 'it happened back in the day too' is accurate. Yes shít happened back in the day, but nowhere close to the same extent and as widespread. Anti-social behaviour is becoming second nature to a lot of the younger generations at younger ages and it's absolutely pointless to pretend nothing has changed over time, because it obviously has. Perhaps you're more insulated to it, but I'm not and plenty of others aren't.

Point to some statistics and I'll believe you. Otherwise that's just media hype.

foxyboxer · 17-05-2012 03:02PM

hairyprincess wrote: »

He needs rehabilitation. But will he get it? Doubtful.

His parents should be held to account to some extent

I'd be more concerned about the 5 year olds mental state tbh.

Crooked Jack · 17-05-2012 03:04PM

Reoil wrote: »

Sorry, what age were Jamie Bulger's murders?

I said it was more common, I never said it was unheard of.
But it's a fair point, am I wrong then, is this nothing new, are teenagers (particularly younger ones) just the same as they ever were?
Maybe it's just because Im comparing them to my own sexual development, I mean at 14 I considered fingering to be the holy grail, a girl wanting to go any further would have scared the shite out of me

Back in my day...

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