Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 (End of March 2012 onwards)

missingtime · 15-05-2012 05:18PM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

When nearly every top level employee at Liverpool has been sacked/regisned in the last number of months over the last few weeks than I do expect the owners to release a statement if they plan on backing their manager or not after they've held their end of season review. I'll be shocked if a statement isn't released at some stage along the lines of "we look forward to kenny working hard during the summer in signing players who will help in his quest to challenge for 4th blah blah".

The fear if they do something like that is the media start running crap like "Vote of confidence" and all that rubbish, which really helps no one.

Knex* · 15-05-2012 05:19PM

Leiva wrote: »

It has happened again. I just totally forgot about Charlie Adam .

Must of been quite the traumatic shock when you remembered.

LuckyLloyd · 15-05-2012 05:21PM

PFL wrote: »

HEY - Don't shoot the messenger, I just posted the link even gave a preamble

I know that - not getting at you specifically!

amiable · 15-05-2012 05:23PM

Leiva wrote: »

It has happened again. I just totally forgot about Charlie Adam .

Who?

amiable · 15-05-2012 05:23PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I know that - not getting at you specifically!

Hormones?

Chucky the tree · 15-05-2012 05:26PM

missingtime wrote: »

The fear if they do something like that is the media start running crap like "Vote of confidence" and all that rubbish, which really helps no one.

The "Vote of condience£ stuff never occurs at the end of the season though. I mean once the review is done, FSG say this, and then publicly back Kenny for the summer it's obvious they won't sack him. Our league or footballing situation won't change so neither will FSG stance. I mean if FSG did sack him 1 month later it would be the biggest PR/lol disaster ever.

paddy kerins · 15-05-2012 05:26PM

Jesus, with all the posts since last night I thought something had happened. Fúcking rumours! :mad: I hate them!!! But love them at the same time, facts can be so misleading, where rumors, true or false, are often revealing

shamelessly robbed form this man

murpho999 · 15-05-2012 05:27PM

How easy is it to start a Twitter rumour?

Could we start one ourselves, like Kenny replaced by Steve Clarke based on the baseball picture?

Sir Gallagher · 15-05-2012 05:27PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

There is no truth or insight to be found in the dreary process that is modern football media. Speculation, misquotes and out of context bull**** is what you get when the bloody obvious is not being stated. Our image will never be improved by that machine, nor would it be worsened by a refusal to engage with it.

I mean, do people actually read or watch the rubbish that is put out? Bollocks the lot of it. I mean how many outlets ran "Suarez to PSG" bile a few months back? How many "Martinez to Liverpool" headlines ran on Sunday? "Club insiders" the source obviously. If any of you pay attention to this menagerie of idiocy or put stock in it then you are naive at best. They just put thIngs out there that they know you'll lap up. After all, what English beat writers will have inside info or a working relationship with FSG? They know **** all, they just get paid to put out their half formed theories and trolling.

It doesn't matter. You win games you get a positive spin. You lose games the landscape is negative. Just win more games and the rest won't matter.

Journalists will write about us wheter we like it or not, if we stopped engaging with them they'd write even more bollox about us. Saying the club shouldn't engage with the media and only through the website is ridiculous. Have you read the clubs website? It's a propaganda machine.

Who asks the tough questions when results aren't going our way? Or do you think Kenny doesn't have to answer to anybody? When we lose games like we have during the year i want to see what the manager has to say about it not some bulls1t/all is rosy in the garden article on the official site.

amiable · 15-05-2012 05:28PM

murpho999 wrote: »

How easy is it to start a Twitter rumour?

Could we start one ourselves, like Kenny replaced by Steve Clarke based on the baseball picture?

I remember it was done last summer(I think) where Liverpool fans started a rumour about a Brazilian player flying in to sign

LuckyLloyd · 15-05-2012 05:29PM

amiable wrote: »

Hi Lloyd

amiable wrote: »

Hormones?

What's your story man? I'm just talking crap on the Internet, leave me to it!

amiable · 15-05-2012 05:30PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

What's your story man? I'm just talking crap on the Internet, leave me to it!

I'm only having a laugh myself. You do seem extra irritable today

amiable · 15-05-2012 05:34PM

Pepe Reina in the Spanish squad for the Euros

daithijjj · 15-05-2012 05:40PM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

When nearly every top level employee at Liverpool has been sacked/regisned in the last number of months over the last few weeks than I do expect the owners to release a statement if they plan on backing their manager or not after they've held their end of season review. I'll be shocked if a statement isn't released at some stage along the lines of "we look forward to kenny working hard during the summer in signing players who will help in his quest to challenge for 4th blah blah".

There are dozens of staff that are 'high up'. The club has been doing a good overhaul of all facets of the business. It was badly needed. Apart from Comolli there hasnt really been anyone moved on that would be associated with the team itself. Bruckner's remit was complete to all intents and purposes. I wouldnt consider the moving on of the head of customer experience and the head of international soccer schools for example as newsworthy. Former FA Chief Exec Brian Barwick came in February to give the owners a review, he is a passionate LFC fan also and has the pedigree behind him for the role he was given, it was no surprise to me there were some casualties.

On the 9th of May (a whole 6 days ago) Fenway Sports Management re-tweeted this.

@FenwaySportsMgt @John_W_Henry Dalglish has given us amazing performances, next season it will be same performances with results #stability

Quite frankly, and in my honest opinion, the only man still lucky to have his current title is Ian Ayre, he has been an absolute fking shambles as MD. Should have stayed where he was, perhaps a conflict of interest was the reason for his shambolic handling.

Hannibal · 15-05-2012 05:41PM

amiable wrote: »

Pepe Reina in the Spanish squad for the Euros

that's not the Euro squad my friend, it's the squad for two upcoming friendlies. No Barcelona, Bilbao or Chelsea players are included in it due to upcoming matches

willmunny1990 · 15-05-2012 05:43PM

daithijjj wrote: »

Quite frankly, and in my honest opinion, the only man still lucky to have his current title is Ian Ayre, he has been an absolute fking shambles as MD. Should have stayed where he was, perhaps a conflict of interest was the reason for his shambolic handling.

Yes or no answer, do you honestly think the job KD has done this season was in any way acceptable and represented progress?

eagle eye · 15-05-2012 05:45PM

Jaysus lads. the problem isn't twitter, its the idiots who follow the **** stirrers/rumour mongers that are the problem.

Sir Gallagher · 15-05-2012 05:46PM

mike65 wrote: »

last night, Henry check, Werner check, Steve Clark check, Kenny Dalglish....

Diarmud Gavin on the left, looks like a new groundsman is on the cards lads. :pac:

Chucky the tree · 15-05-2012 05:46PM

daithijjj wrote: »

There are dozens of staff that are 'high up'. The club has been doing a good overhaul of all facets of the business. It was badly needed. Apart from Comolli there hasnt really been anyone moved on that would be associated with the team itself. Bruckner's remit was complete to all intents and purposes. I wouldnt consider the moving on of the head of customer experience and the head of international soccer schools for example as newsworthy. Former FA Chief Exec Brian Barwick came in February to give the owners a review, he is a passionate LFC fan also and has the pedigree behind him for the role he was given, it was no surprise to me there were some casualties.

On the 9th of May (a whole 6 days ago) Fenway Sports Management re-tweeted this.

@FenwaySportsMgt @John_W_Henry Dalglish has given us amazing performances, next season it will be same performances with results #stability

Quite frankly, and in my honest opinion, the only man still lucky to have his current title is Ian Ayre, he has been an absolute fking shambles as MD. Should have stayed where he was, perhaps a conflict of interest was the reason for his shambolic handling.

I still expect a statement to be released if he is staying on.

15-05-2012 05:47PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkchDf3doW8

LuckyLloyd · 15-05-2012 05:49PM

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

There is no truth or insight to be found in the dreary process that is modern football media. Speculation, misquotes and out of context bull**** is what you get when the bloody obvious is not being stated. Our image will never be improved by that machine, nor would it be worsened by a refusal to engage with it.

I mean, do people actually read or watch the rubbish that is put out? Bollocks the lot of it. I mean how many outlets ran "Suarez to PSG" bile a few months back? How many "Martinez to Liverpool" headlines ran on Sunday? "Club insiders" the source obviously. If any of you pay attention to this menagerie of idiocy or put stock in it then you are naive at best. They just put thIngs out there that they know you'll lap up. After all, what English beat writers will have inside info or a working relationship with FSG? They know **** all, they just get paid to put out their half formed theories and trolling.

It doesn't matter. You win games you get a positive spin. You lose games the landscape is negative. Just win more games and the rest won't matter.

Journalists will write about us wheter we like it or not, if we stopped engaging with them they'd write even more bollox about us. Saying the club shouldn't engage with the media and only through the website is ridiculous. Have you read the clubs website? It's a propaganda machine.

Who asks the tough questions when results aren't going our way? Or do you think Kenny doesn't have to answer to anybody? When we lose games like we have during the year i want to see what the manager has to say about it not some bulls1t/all is rosy in the garden article on the official site.

The second paragraph describes what the media should do rather than what they actually do. The fan base watch the games and ask the questions themselves. What tangible insight or value is being added by the media? I really need examples tbh.

Today sums up the media landscape for me. "Showdown" talks me hole.

GEM_13 · 15-05-2012 05:51PM

murpho999 wrote: »

How easy is it to start a Twitter rumour?

Could we start one ourselves, like Kenny replaced by Steve Clarke based on the baseball picture?

Breaking News-Boston Red Socks have acquired Liverpool defensive coach Steve Clarke as their new fielding coach for the remainder of the baseball campaign.

FSG were said to have been impressed by Clarke in the role he had as head of defensive special teams at Liverpool Soccer Club.

Hoki · 15-05-2012 05:51PM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I still expect a statement to be released if he is staying on.

How often do you see clubs release statements at the end of the season saying the manager is being kept on?

amiable · 15-05-2012 05:52PM

Dotsey wrote: »

that's not the Euro squad my friend, it's the squad for two upcoming friendlies. No Barcelona, Bilbao or Chelsea players are included in it due to upcoming matches

I didn't realise that

willmunny1990 · 15-05-2012 05:53PM

Hoki wrote: »

How often do you see clubs release statements at the end of the season saying the manager is being kept on?

when there is as much speculation over the manager's future and the fact that KD failed with the target of the top 4 (spectacularly I might add), it would be the norm to release a statement clarifying his position at the end of the season.

15-05-2012 05:54PM

Breaking news:

Productivity nosedives in Irish firms after employees spend the day reading bogus tweets.

Chucky the tree · 15-05-2012 06:02PM

Hoki wrote: »

How often do you see clubs release statements at the end of the season saying the manager is being kept on?

When there has been a lot speculation over a managers future I expect it to happen.

Turtyturd · 15-05-2012 06:04PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

when there is as much speculation over the manager's future and the fact that KD failed with the target of the top 4 (spectacularly I might add), it would be the norm to release a statement clarifying his position at the end of the season.

I would hope FSG would have the decency to fire him in the tunnel first.

ricero · 15-05-2012 06:07PM

all this nonsense of a picture at a baseball game. maybe kenny hates baseball i for one wouldnt sit through a ****ing baseball game

Sir Gallagher · 15-05-2012 06:09PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

The second paragraph describes what the media should do rather than what they actually do. The fan base watch the games and ask the questions themselves. What tangible insight or value is being added by the media? I really need examples tbh.

Today sums up the media landscape for me. "Showdown" talks me hole.

I'm looking for a little insight from the manager tbh not petulant, snide responses to simple questions like we've seen all season.

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 (End of March 2012 onwards)

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