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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 (End of March 2012 onwards)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    @thisisanfield: RT: @OliPriceBates: Liverpool and Tottenham are set to go head to head for Luuk de Jong who will cost them around £12.5m #thfc #lfc

    Emmm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭koppy


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    God I don't know if my blood pressure could take Rafa being back at the club.

    If we're not in the top 4 at Christmas, retards will call for his head.

    If we are in the top 4, retards will call for his head for not having us top of the league.

    retards..? because they dont want rafa..?

    no matter which manger we get If we're not in the top 4 at Christmas, retards will call for his head.
    no matter which manger If we are in the top 4, retards will call for his head for not having us top of the league.

    for me the retards are the ones that want him back, really dont understand wanting him back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    koppy wrote: »
    retards..? because they dont want rafa..?

    no matter which manger we get If we're not in the top 4 at Christmas, retards will call for his head.
    no matter which manger If we are in the top 4, retards will call for his head for not having us top of the league.

    for me the retards are the ones that want him back, really dont understand wanting him back.
    i agree
    his football is horrible to watch too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,983 ✭✭✭✭NukaCola


    koppy wrote: »
    retards..? because they dont want rafa..?

    no matter which manger we get If we're not in the top 4 at Christmas, retards will call for his head.
    no matter which manger If we are in the top 4, retards will call for his head for not having us top of the league.

    for me the retards are the ones that want him back, really dont understand wanting him back.
    MD1990 wrote: »
    i agree
    his football is horrible to watch too

    We were spoiled under Rafa......some people have very short memories


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,475 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    Have we signed Lavezzi, Cavani, Hamsik and Sneidjer yet? Season is over a day already for God's sake.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,781 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,942 ✭✭✭missingtime


    darced wrote: »
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    At least we were scoring goals instead of hitting the post every game.

    I dunno how people found his football boring, we were scoring goals for fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,475 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    darced wrote: »
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    I know I used to hate the days when we played Champions League football. Dreadful, boring competition.

    At least under Rafa we had a direction and a purpose on the pitch and each player knew his role.

    Take the FA Cup final for example and tell me we either;

    A. Played good exciting football
    B. Looked like we even had a ****ing clue what we were doing until Carroll came on.

    It just didn't happen.

    We often played great football under Rafa and the myth around him being boring is just that. A myth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    We scored just over half the amount of goals City did, go us. Difference of 57 goals in our goal difference.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭Kerrigooney


    amiable wrote: »
    Because he's going to talk to his boss the same way he talks to Andy Burton?

    Oh dear...what I posted didn`t come across as I meant it to.

    I was trying to be funny but it seems I`m about as funny as Adam Sandler:(

    However his increasing paranoia and tetchiness (is that a word?) is getting very bloody annoying.

    It`s not just the moronic questions that brings this out in him either,as someone else said...it`s every question these days.

    I`m old enough to remember him as a player so I love the guy but I think it`s becoming obvious he can`t handle it any more. It`s time to step aside while he still has a bit of his dignity intact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    God I hope Rafa doesn't come back.

    I remember us putting 4 past Madrid and United and five past Villa in consecutive games, and cringing at the way he had the team playing.

    Awful stuff Ted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭daithijjj


    Super-Rush wrote: »
    God I hope Rafa doesn't come back.

    I remember us putting 4 past Madrid and United and five past Villa in consecutive games, and cringing at the way he had the team playing.

    Awful stuff Ted.

    That period of football was in spite of Rafa, not because of him, we went into complete collapse under his 'default settings' during the winter months prior to that. We reverted to type not long after.

    I dont like his style, he is too rigid, in his team and his personality. He bought and sold or fell out with almost every creative player he brought to the club. That's fine, he is entitled to do whatever he likes while manager, doesnt mean i like watching it.

    The game we lost at home to Arsenal this year was some of the best we have played in a very long time. Im perfectly content with Kenny for next season, i expect him to make changes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    Super-Rush wrote: »
    God I hope Rafa doesn't come back.

    I remember us putting 4 past Madrid and United and five past Villa in consecutive games, and cringing at the way he had the team playing.

    Awful stuff Ted.

    Yeah, and we only scored one in the Bernabeau when we beat Madrid and only two in the Nou Camp when we beat Barca!! Shocking stuff alright. Embarrassing nights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    And the time we beat Inter in the San Siro, and at Anfield. Disgraceful performances

    EDIT - Or was that a draw in the San Siro? Either way, terrible stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    Oh dear...what I posted didn`t come across as I meant it to.

    I was trying to be funny but it seems I`m about as funny as Adam Sandler:(

    However his increasing paranoia and tetchiness (is that a word?) is getting very bloody annoying.

    It`s not just the moronic questions that brings this out in him either,as someone else said...it`s every question these days.

    I`m old enough to remember him as a player so I love the guy but I think it`s becoming obvious he can`t handle it any more. It`s time to step aside while he still has a bit of his dignity intact.

    Don't worry, I'v e picked a few people up wrong on here over the last few days so sorry about that.

    With some of these reporters it's not just the silly questions they ask Kenny though. There's a bit of background with some of these incidents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    aaronh007 wrote: »
    EDIT - Or was that a draw in the San Siro? Either way, terrible stuff

    We won. 0-1. Torres with the goal. Won me a fair few quid.

    Or when we beat Barca in the Camp Nou. Not a bad night that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    ush wrote: »
    FA cup semi-final was in April. The wheels came off in March, at the latest.

    Have you forgotten Bolton away? That was in January. Sandwiched between cup ties, in the middle of the Suarez mess, the team didn't turn up for a league match. League aspirations were melting.

    Was it "Andy Carroll" who said on here that Kenny's brief was to get top 4. He ignored his brief and concentrated on cups.

    Now Kenny losing the faith of the squad is a more reasonable explanation than the squad only being good enough for 8th. I think the quality is there, especially when Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea are wobbling.

    If you don't accept him losing the squad or think the squad isn't good enough, what are you left with by way of explanation? A team that was allowed to consistently put in woeful performances and didn't beat the teams they should have. That is a far more damning verdict on Kenny.

    The wheels came off in March?? I don't exactly remember us blowing away the likes of Sunderland, Norwich, Swansea etc in the first part of the season!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭Kerrigooney


    amiable wrote: »
    Don't worry, I'v e picked a few people up wrong on here over the last few days so sorry about that.

    With some of these reporters it's not just the silly questions they ask Kenny though. There's a bit of background with some of these incidents.

    No worries.

    Yeah,that would make sense because all of the managers get asked the same ridiculous questions but they don`t all react like KD so there must be something there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    aaronh007 wrote: »
    And the time we beat Inter in the San Siro, and at Anfield. Disgraceful performances

    EDIT - Or was that a draw in the San Siro? Either way, terrible stuff

    We beat Inter home and away that season. That was an embarrassing Champions League campaign though. I think we only reached the Semi finals that year!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    monkey9 wrote: »
    The wheels came off in March?? I don't exactly remember us blowing away the likes of Sunderland, Norwich, Swansea etc in the first part of the season!!

    You expect us to beat everyone?! :eek:

    Until the Arsenal game we were still in for a CL place. Arguably the QPR game even.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭PFL


    campo wrote: »
    Cant see them flying Kenny all the way to Boston to sack him sure they have more respect for the man then that, If they were to sack him I am sure Werner would fly into Liverpool to meet him just like he did for Comolli

    Comolli was in the states the week before Werner and Henry came to Merseyside to part company with him, more then likely doing what Kenny & Clarke are doing, giving their end of season report.

    I don't think they'll part company with kenny though, more problems structurally wrong with the club then the manager;

    No CL
    No Stadium Resolution
    No Director of football
    No Director of communications
    No Commercial Director
    No Head of Science & Fitness
    A weak MD in Ian Ayre (his strengths are commercial & sponsorship)

    It's a great shame Rafa can't be persuaded to take a DOF role, strategically thinking about a vision for the club, scouting, planning for the future through the academy. I know he's relatively young and has aspirations to manage again though.

    It is a make or break summer for lfc, a lot of things need to be to right and I'm not just talking about transfers and the manager.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Tony Barrett saying in tomorrows Times that we're hoping to bring in Elm & Belhandra in the summer. Positive news.

    I know how highly Belhandra is rated, what are people's thoughts on Elm? He looked impressive the that video posted the other night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭PFL


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Tony Barrett saying in tomorrows Times that we're hoping to bring in Elm & Belhandra in the summer. Positive news.

    I know how highly Belhandra is rated, what are people's thoughts on Elm? He looked impressive the that video posted the other night.

    Simon Clancy on twitter had it as well;
    @SiClancy: Liverpool "branching out" with plans to sign Rasmus Elm and Younès Belhanda.”

    Belhanda won young player of the year tonight, don't know much about Elm. If true we're hardly signing players and sacking kenny?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭Hannibal


    PFL wrote: »
    Comolli was in the states the week before Werner and Henry came to Merseyside to part company with him, more then likely doing what Kenny & Clarke are doing, giving their end of season report.

    I don't think they'll part company with kenny though, more problems structurally wrong with the club then the manager;

    No CL
    No Stadium Resolution
    No Director of football
    No Director of communications
    No Commercial Director
    No Head of Science & Fitness
    A weak MD in Ian Ayre (his strengths are commercial & sponsorship)

    It's a great shame Rafa can't be persuaded to take a DOF role, strategically thinking about a vision for the club, scouting, planning for the future through the academy. I know he's relatively young and has aspirations to manage again though.

    It is a make or break summer for lfc, a lot of things need to be to right and I'm not just talking about transfers and the manager.
    Rafa is also an excellent tactician on the football field so I think he would be wasted in a role like that, while he was our manager he had a vision for the club which is why Segura and Borrell are at The Academy now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    PFL wrote: »
    Simon Clancy on twitter had it as well

    He got it from Tony Barrett. Said so in his next tweet.
    PFL wrote:
    Belhanda won young player of the year tonight, don't know much about Elm. If true we're hardly signing players and sacking kenny?

    I think it's always been unlikely Kenny would be getting the bullet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Tony Barrett saying in tomorrows Times that we're hoping to bring in Elm & Belhandra in the summer. Positive news.

    I know how highly Belhandra is rated, what are people's thoughts on Elm? He looked impressive the that video posted the other night.


    Can't say the video of him posted really captured my imagination. Perhaps he is good but the video didn't show a lot to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭daithijjj


    Turns out we did bid for Jones last year (according to this)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,396 ✭✭✭PhiloCypher


    If Kenny goes I'd have no qualms with Rafa coming back assuming there are no other outstanding candidates available IE. pep, mourinho, Klop etc but what are the odds that FSG are gonna turn back the clock like that again and choose another former manager when that very tactic had backfired for them with Kenny. Just can't see it happening.


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