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Leaked document contains plans for re education camps for "political activists"

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  • #2
    troposphere
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    How is it just leaked when it appears to have been up on a US Army website since 2010?

    http://armypubs.army.mil/doctrine/active_fm.html


  • #3
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    troposphere wrote: »
    How is it just leaked when it appears to have been up on a US Army website since 2010?

    http://armypubs.army.mil/doctrine/active_fm.html
    I would have guessed that it would have only been placed there quite recently.

    It has only started to appear on alternative news sites in the last few days.


  • #4
    troposphere
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 174 ✭✭troposphere


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    I would have guessed that it would have only been placed there quite recently.

    It has only started to appear on alternative news sites in the last few days.

    On the 2nd page of the PDF
    This publication is available at
    Army Knowledge Online (www.us.army.mil) and
    General Dennis J. Reimer Training and Doctrine
    Digital Library at (www.train.army.mil).


  • #5
    RichieC
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    COINTELPRO never ended, never will end.


  • #6
    Manic Moran
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,587 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    What an alarmist piece of claptrap.
    “Last time I checked, the United States Social Security Administration was not responsible for handing out social security numbers to people in Afghanistan or Iraq,” explains Infowar’s Paul Joseph Watson.

    Infowar employs genii.

    And I suppose The USSSA did not bother to give someone like John Walker Lindh a Social Security Number before he went to Afghanistan?

    And are they suggesting that in the event of large disasters which require resettling personnel such as Katrina, the US military should sit back and do nothing because it offends them that the US military might possibly have a role to play within the US borders? (As I look at the highlights passages in the original article)
    http://www.infowars.com/leaked-u-s-army-document-outlines-plan-for-re-education-camps-in-america/

    NTM


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  • #7
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Manic Moran wrote: »
    What an alarmist piece of claptrap.

    Infowar employs genii.
    Anything but, Alex Jones tends to be a sensationalist site, but he dose sometimes exposes much valuable information.

    This document was meant to be classified.

    Also with the recent introduction of NDAA Martial Law and other Soviet style censorship bills such as CISPA and FEMA camps popping up left right and center across the US one should show some concern about such a bill.


  • #8
    Jesus Shaves
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    1984


  • #9
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    darokane wrote: »
    1984

    George Orwell's book was certainly never meant to be a instruction manual for the US Government.


  • #10
    Manic Moran
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,587 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Anything but, Alex Jones tends to be a sensationalist site, but he dose sometimes exposes much valuable information.

    This document was meant to be classified.

    As are most any manuals dictating operational procedures in the military. Actually, most any military system. (It actually says not for general public release on the front cover, by the way). Try getting something out of the Irish Army, for example. (In the most ridiculous example, I wanted to get a manual for an FAL rifle. I was told it was still restricted, so I went and downloaded it from the manufacturer's website).

    The point still stands. He's being hyperbolic, and any manual which covers reasonable actions in the case of resettlement requirements as a result of, say, mass flooding or earthquakes, can also be interpreted to be 'Police State Compatible.' The FEMA camps you mention are a perfect example. My God, they can be used to house political dissidents! Here's a thought. Maybe they can also be used to house refugees when their houses get flattened by a tornado?

    NTM


  • #11
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Manic Moran wrote: »
    As are most any manuals dictating operational procedures in the military. Actually, most any military system. (It actually says not for general public release on the front cover, by the way). Try getting something out of the Irish Army, for example. (In the most ridiculous example, I wanted to get a manual for an FAL rifle. I was told it was still restricted, so I went and downloaded it from the manufacturer's website).

    The point still stands. He's being hyperbolic, and any manual which covers reasonable actions in the case of resettlement requirements as a result of, say, mass flooding or earthquakes, can also be interpreted to be 'Police State Compatible.' The FEMA camps you mention are a perfect example. My God, they can be used to house political dissidents! Here's a thought. Maybe they can also be used to house refugees when their houses get flattened by a tornado?

    NTM
    The American public have been duped about these camps, they are nor being told the truth about their purpose, ie to detain future government subversives that don't obey.. Why would the US Government build these camps in areas where there is no history of natural disasters?

    One only has to look at recent directives that have peen put through the house such as the Patriot Act. CISPA, NDAA Martial Law and do the math.

    The only difference between former German FEMA camps and the current US FEMA camps is that the box cars are a much larger.

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  • #12
    MagicMarker
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Why would the US Government build these camps in areas where there is no history of natural disasters?

    So a natural disaster doesn't destroy the camp that's housing victims of natural disasters?


  • #13
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    So a natural disaster doesn't destroy the camp that's housing victims of natural disasters?
    They must be expecting something big.

    30ct113.jpg


  • #14
    Jonny7
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    The only difference between former German FEMA camps

    Are you referring to concentration camps?

    Concentration camps are used to kill people. Dead people aren't very useful as slaves. Which is your theory right?


  • #15
    Matt Holck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,706 ✭✭✭Matt Holck


    let me make a side note

    There's a bus tour pulling people from cities to go protest NATO in Chicago

    but I can't seem to get the right information from them

    I wonder if they were seeking more pliable protesters

    http://occupywallst.org/article/free-bus-trips-call-action-peoples-summit-chicago-/

    perhaps a reeducation trip


  • #16
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    Are you referring to concentration camps?

    Concentration camps are used to kill people. Dead people aren't very useful as slaves. Which is your theory right?
    I don't want to drag this thread into CT, but I am sure when the foundations of German FEMA camps were set they didn't have the word "Concentration" written all over them.


  • #17
    Jonny7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    I don't want to drag this thread into CT, but I am sure when the foundations of German FEMA camps were set they didn't have the word "Concentration" written all over them.

    They were used to kill people.. large amounts.

    You believe Obama is the anti-Christ, responsible for 911 among other things, I am just curious as to why he would rather kill US citizens rather than just enslave them?

    By the way when they are eventually enslaved.. what will they be doing?

    Also will it be just US citizens or citizens all over the world?


  • #18
    Run_to_da_hills
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    Jonny7 wrote: »
    They were used to kill people.. large amounts.

    You believe Obama is the anti-Christ, responsible for 911 among other things, I am just curious as to why he would rather kill US citizens rather than just enslave them?
    Its called "false flagging" or Problem - Reaction - Solution,

    Those in power will go to any lengths to achieve this even to the extent of evoking terrorism as we had witnessed the other day with the CIA failure of underwear bomber no 2.

    A problem is deliberately created usually through fear mongering so that people will react to it. The law makers then invent an obvious "solution". In the case of the Twin Towers it unfortunately resulted in massive loss of civilian lives but on a positive side for the elite, it gave birth to the patriot act, loss of civil liberties along with the global roll out of RFID embedded identity.

    I have discussed in CT my reasons why I would be avoiding London during the Olympic Games taking what I mentioned above into consideration.
    Jonny7 wrote: »
    By the way when they are eventually enslaved.. what will they be doing?

    Also will it be just US citizens or citizens all over the world?
    Already a topic in CT so I won't drag it in here.


  • #19
    Manic Moran
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    Jonny7 wrote: »
    Are you referring to concentration camps?

    Concentration camps are used to kill people. Dead people aren't very useful as slaves. Which is your theory right?

    Well, the death camps and the concentration camps were not quite the same thing.


  • #20
    matthew8
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    Manic Moran wrote: »
    Well, the death camps and the concentration camps were not quite the same thing.

    Yeah they're completely different. The British used concentration camps around 100 years ago in South Africa. Certainly not nice places but not death camps by any stretch.


  • #21
    troposphere
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 174 ✭✭troposphere


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Why would the US Government build these camps in areas where there is no history of natural disasters?

    Between earthquakes, wildfires, flooding, tornadoes, hurricanes, and snow and ice storms, what areas in the US have not had a history of natural disasters?


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  • #22
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    troposphere wrote: »
    Between earthquakes, wildfires, flooding, tornadoes, hurricanes, and snow and ice storms, what areas in the US have not had a history of natural disasters?
    FEMA "Internment resettlement Specialist" recruitment opportunities

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkkbsy5QHEg


    But did we all not hear the word "internment" used before????

    Long Kesh internment camp near Lisburn in Antrim.

    2j44vpk.jpg


  • #23
    Matt Holck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,706 ✭✭✭Matt Holck


    Mexican migrants can disappear in that system


  • #24
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,132 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    FEMA "Internment resettlement Specialist" recruitment opportunities

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkkbsy5QHEg


    But did we all not hear the word "internment" used before????

    You're kidding right? There are hundreds of MPs doing that exact job right now in military prisons. They guard soldiers sent to prison and captured enemy combatants, simple.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • #25
    RichieC
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    These camps are going up under the guise of illegal immigrant detention centres "politically safe". It is a little chilling when you see them built with train lines up to them and federally leased (CDC) property housing hundreds of thousands of cheap plastic coffins.

    People are right to be a little worried when they see all this. I doubt Auschwitz was build with everyone in the local area aware they were going to be used to exterminate the jews.

    The US has a terrible record on the treatment of political dissidents, abysmal you might even say, going back to the mass imprisonment of wobbleys beginning iirc 20's, the Mccarty era, the civil rights era and even up to the present day. People have a right to be suspicious, but as usual those who voice it are met with mockery, like as if the US sh*t don't stink and is above suspicion.

    They were making files on people for the crime of being a delegate for Ron Paul.


  • #26
    troposphere
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 174 ✭✭troposphere


    Three year old youtube video to go along with two year old "just leaked" military manual. The trains also suck in the US but Obama did set aside billions for upgrades in the stimulus, it all makes sense now.


  • #27
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    A number of these camps are also built on old Amtrak rail yards like this one in an eight year old video. .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4


    This makes sense as they will need trains for the discrete fast turn over of dissidents arriving at these camps. Also notice that the Barbed wire is inward facing. CCTV would not be put on place until the last minute as it would only arouse suspicion

    Obama is not going to do anything yet until after the presidential election as the last thing he wants to do is rock the boat, Once he is inaugurated you can be damn sure his secret USSA KGB agents will be making use of his recent CISPA and SOPA spying bills and will be trawling through social media accounts, emails and text messages of all his opponents and rounding them up for "brain washing".

    a3idtk.jpg


  • #28
    Matt Holck
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    trains move supplies around the country
    it is efficient for food distribution

    Trains can reduce the use of Cars by providing transportation


  • #29
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Matt Holck wrote: »
    trains move supplies around the country
    it is efficient for food distribution

    Trains can reduce the use of Cars by providing transportation
    Not trains with incorporated prisoner shackles from what news is currently travelling around now right now. It may seem far fetched and impossible but several years ago but we were told that these camps were for post Hurricane Katherine scenarios, then for holding Mexican refugees now we are told that they may become re educational facilities for subversives.

    Those elite in power cannot seem to be able to make their minds and it is through leak outs and alternative news sites that we are finding truth.


  • #30
    Troy Acidic Plumber
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Troy Acidic Plumber


    the forum is not for posting random pictures, one-word responses, or CTs


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