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Israel having a problem with gas supply.

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  • 09-05-2012 11:46AM
    #1
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,372 ✭✭✭✭


    Surely it's not going to kick off over a gas bill?:eek:
    Egypt-Israel Gas Issue Becoming Explosive
    By Adam Morrow and Khaled Moussa al-Omrani



    CAIRO, May 9, 2012 (IPS) - The two weeks since Egypt's abrupt cancellation of a Mubarak-era gas-export deal with Israel have seen an exchange of indirect threats and warnings between the two countries, culminating in an apparent Israeli military build-up on the border of Egypt's Sinai Peninsula.

    "In recent days, Israel appears to have begun preparing for military deployments on its southern border," Tarek Fahmi, head of the Israel desk at the Cairo-based National Centre for Middle East Studies, told IPS.
    http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=107720


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    #2
    tallaghtmick
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    Wonder how long before Israel junior aka America decides theres enough reasons to attack Egypt


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    #3
    mawk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭mawk


    man, those poor jewish guys just cannot get a break when it comes to gas..


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    #4
    SEPT 23 1989
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    I wish they would just get it over and done with


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    #5
    Dermighty
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    The Irony


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    danniemcq
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    No blood for gas!


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    #7
    CardBordWindow
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    That's gas! :D


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    wes
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    The gas deal was a terrible deal for Egypt. Basically corrupt officials on both sides who were paid off, made this deal. Now the current government has rightly rescinded the deal, after Israel didn't pay there bills. So, I fail to see what the issue is. Perhaps they ought to pay there bill and then maybe a fair price can be negotiatied now that corrupt officials in Egypt can be punished if they try anything.

    Also, the gas deal has nothing to do with camp david, so I have no clue what Israel is on about in that regard.


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    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,372 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    wes wrote: »
    The gas deal was a terrible deal for Egypt. Basically corrupt officials on both sides who were paid off, made this deal. Now the current government has rightly rescinded the deal, after Israel didn't pay there bills. So, I fail to see what the issue is. Perhaps they ought to pay there bill and then maybe a fair price can be negotiatied now that corrupt officials in Egypt can be punished if they try anything.

    Also, the gas deal has nothing to do with camp david, so I have no clue what Israel is on about in that regard.

    That would be for camping gas.



    :o


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    #10
    Lionel Messy
    Site Banned Posts: 612 ✭✭✭Lionel Messy


    If they are having problems with gas, they should lay off the beans.

    ah fcuk it, the good one's have been said!


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    #11
    sbsquarepants
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    They've been at war for decades over their imaginary friend - they'll nuke someone over the gas bill being too high:)


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    Augmerson
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    Jesus Christ, is there not any problem that Israel won't try solving by bombing the **** out of somebody? Bullies.


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    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,372 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    sbsquarepants wrote: »
    They've been at war for decades over their imaginary friend - they'll nuke someone over the gas bill being too high:)

    I hope there's no Israeli troop build-up over their Dublin embassy's Bord Gáis bill :eek:


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    golden lane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    too many new settlements on the west bank........


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    brimal
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    Misleading story.

    Israel had already deployed troops to the border since last week due to the growing security breaches on the border.

    It is not some attempt at posturing by Israel, this troop deployment was already planned and carried out before this gas line was cut.

    And why would Israel go to war over a gas line they have been weaning themselves off now for the past year or more? Egypt's inability to stop the dozen or so attacks on the line this year means Israel never really had much of a supply from this line during 2012 anyway.

    In 2013 Israel opens their own gas fields and plans to even become an exporter of gas soon after, so to suggest things will 'kick off' over this is complete nonsense.


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    Capt'n Midnight
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17808954
    Egypt's state-owned gas company says it has scrapped a controversial deal which supplies Israel with 40% of its natural gas at lower than market prices.
    ...
    Israeli officials insist the terms of the contract are fair, but Egyptian prosecutors said last April the state had lost more than $714m.

    The details of the deal have never been released publicly, but former Egyptian officials have said the gas was initially sold to EMG at about $1.25 per British thermal unit (BTU), and then increased in 2008 to $4 per BTU. EMG was able to negotiate its own terms with Israeli buyers.
    ...
    "The big saying here in Egypt is that we are subsidising the Israeli people while we are not subsidising the Egyptians," Tamer Abu Bakr, the chairman of Genco Group, an Egyptian natural gas distribution company, told the Wall Street Journal.


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    #17
    Stiffler2
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    Israels
    Jews
    Gas


    Must resist,......MUST.......RESIST.......


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    Nothingbetter2d
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Nothingbetter2d


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    Israels
    Jews
    Gas


    Must resist,......MUST.......RESIST.......

    Resistance is Futile :D


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    Chamone MF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭Chamone MF


    A 1.2.3.........Throw the Israeli down the gas well.


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    golden lane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    now doubt, the head of the gas company....will be on trial soon.........

    the going rate for washers in israel......has dropped dramatically...........


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    #21
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,372 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    Israels
    Jews
    Gas


    Must resist,......MUST.......RESIST.......

    I did, and even chewed one of my lips off before finishing the opening post.:P


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    Zebra3
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    brimal wrote: »
    In 2013 Israel opens their own gas fields and plans to even become an exporter of gas soon after, so to suggest things will 'kick off' over this is complete nonsense.

    Does that include the gas fields off the coast of Gaza that Israel is stealing?


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    shedweller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭shedweller


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    brimal wrote: »
    In 2013 Israel opens their own gas fields and plans to even become an exporter of gas soon after, so to suggest things will 'kick off' over this is complete nonsense.

    Does that include the gas fields off the coast of Gaza that Israel is stealing?
    Took the words right out of my mouth!

    I too would like an answer to that.


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    brimal
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Does that include the gas fields off the coast of Gaza that Israel is stealing?

    Nope, I was referring to Tamar opening in 2013 and Leviathan a few years later. Israel might disputes with Lebanon in the coming years over Leviathan however.


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    paddyandy
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    At least they are not giving Gas away with loads of royalty money as people say we are .
    Do they need our advice anyway ?


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    #26
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,412 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    America f** yeah.......boom take that pyramids.....boom take that valley of the kings....boom there goes sphinx....


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    #27
    Ash.J.Williams
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    paddyandy wrote: »
    At least they are not giving Gas away with loads of royalty money as people say we are .
    Do they need our advice anyway ?
    are we giving gas away?


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    #28
    shedweller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭shedweller


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    paddyandy wrote: »
    At least they are not giving Gas away with loads of royalty money as people say we are .
    Do they need our advice anyway ?
    are we giving gas away?
    Pretty much. We lowered the MRRT on it a few years ago and any taxes due can be written off. Nice number if you can get it!


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    #29
    paddyandy
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    They don't need our advice or veiled criticism .


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    RichieC
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    Augmerson wrote: »
    Jesus Christ, is there not any problem that Israel won't try solving by bombing the **** out of somebody? Bullies.

    When all you have is a hammer in your tool box everything starts to look like a nail.


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    #31
    shedweller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭shedweller


    RichieC wrote: »
    Augmerson wrote: »
    Jesus Christ, is there not any problem that Israel won't try solving by bombing the **** out of somebody? Bullies.

    When all you have is a hammer in your tool box everything starts to look like a nail.
    Ah come on!! They have more than a hammer in their toolbox! They're doing fairly well with the billion p/a of weapons delivered from the US.


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