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Single men vs Single women

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Battered Mars Bar


    Ya there's something seriously f**ked up with irish womens dating attitudes. There's serious personification of males sexual interest and drive as something sick, barbaric, perverted and dangerous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    you know what, I'd rather be single forever than settle, I know a few people who have and fcuk. that. sh1t. to roll over in the morning and confronted with someone and think "you're the best I could do" how fcuking depressing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    krudler wrote: »
    you know what, I'd rather be single forever than settle, I know a few people who have and fcuk. that. sh1t. to roll over in the morning and confronted with someone and think "you're the best I could do" how fcuking depressing.

    Or worse still, to know you could have done better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭secretambition


    Its worse for the woman after 30, all that pressure about biological clocks ticking. You get married women patting your arm and giving you the aul 'it'll happen someday'.

    The correct response to that is "hopefully not", and proceed to tell them how you're considering taking a year to travel round the world and generally implying your freedom is amazing. It winds them up no end.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I'd say overall women have it worse. There can be a lot of societal pressure on them to be in a relationship. Often, if not mostly from other women. Women discuss relationships much more which adds to it. I've known way more women who've been in meh or even bad relationships rather than face being single. Even the words that describe the state. Bachelor sounds way better than spinster.

    Single men? Generally have it easier. With the exceptions of the guys who're woefully bad at talking to women.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭Sea Filly


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Bachelor sounds way better than spinster.

    Not really, it still has tragic connotations, IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭saa


    Dudess wrote: »
    That must suck all right. Some people cannot cope with being single, seem to feel they are defined only by being part of a couple - must be awful to be so needy. But worse again, they project this neediness by getting bothered over OTHER people being single. To care so much about other people's relationship status or lack thereof has got to indicate issues with themselves, otherwise, why would they care?

    Yes so many people have to project what is right for others to be living their lives like, well unless they're doing something destructive, you know what I mean.
    Absolutely agree its issue within themselves, the people I know who are always seeking for someone else stops them developing as a person themselves because it takes up so much of their time energy, focus its basically their main or only goal and stops them enjoying nights out with friends and when they finally do get into relationships they are not happy at all because they rely so much on that other person being with them for fulfillment anything that goes slightly wrong in the relationship cuts them to the core because its so much of who they see themselves as, its like their living for the other person in a really damaging way. She cares because its her no1 priority why wouldnt it be everyone elses.

    Its funny I have a partner and we don't live together and people think we have serious relationship issues because of that, ha sounds like a commitment issue but trust me its not, we've lived together before and I must admit it is easy to switch into that stay in and never do anything for yourself anymore mode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Sea Filly wrote: »
    Not really, it still has tragic connotations, IMO.

    I don't know, I think lots of men would like to live in a nice bachelor pad :).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Sea Filly wrote: »
    Not really, it still has tragic connotations, IMO.

    George Clooney is a bachelor, he must cry himself to sleep every night :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Spinster - old maid knitting.

    Bachelor - ok, in Ireland, farmer's son in misery, John B. Keane character; but in popular culture: the guys in Entourage and Californication.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭Raekwon


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Single men? Generally have it easier. With the exceptions of the guys who're woefully bad at talking to women.

    I was going to comment on this post but Dudess beat me too it.......
    Dudess wrote: »
    Bachelor - ok, in Ireland, farmer's son in misery, John B. Keane character; but in popular culture: the guys in Entourage and Californication.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Guy is single too long and not reporting weekly one night stands = closet gay

    Well according to some


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    maybe they just couldnt be bothered with the stresses of a relationship


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    I don't know, I think lots of men would like to live in a nice bachelor pad :).

    And have Batchelor's beans, Batchelor's walk, have batchelor / batchelorette parties.

    Batchelor's seem to be celebrated as fun loving party boys who never grow up and have lots of girlfriends and cars and spaghetti hoops and things. Spinsters are miserable oul hags.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    hahaha hiliarious.. batchelors beans party boys they should start rebranding sell the lifestyle!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    I'm kinda amazed that someone's sexuality is called into question if they've been single for a while. Not sure what circles people are moving in where that's happening, sounds like schoolboy stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    I'm kinda amazed that someone's sexuality is called into question if they've been single for a while. Not sure what circles people are moving in where that's happening, sounds like schoolboy stuff.

    It is childish stuff though I noticed it happens mainly in the workplace.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    Ya there's something seriously f**ked up with irish womens dating attitudes. There's serious personification of males sexual interest and drive as something sick, barbaric, perverted and dangerous.

    This is partly why I think men have it worse. Male sexuality is a subject that seems to elicit hostility in many women here. Our society kind of denigrates a man’s sex drive, reducing him to merely a rutting animal with no deeper context.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    WindSock wrote: »
    And have Batchelor's beans, Batchelor's walk, have batchelor / batchelorette parties.

    Batchelor's seem to be celebrated as fun loving party boys who never grow up and have lots of girlfriends and cars and spaghetti hoops and things. Spinsters are miserable oul hags.


    Don't forget the cats:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    It is childish stuff though I noticed it happens mainly in the workplace.

    Ah, the modern workplace, where all good children go when they've outgrown university.


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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Agree with the people who say it's worse for women, especially for 'older' women. An older relation of mine worries aloud about whether women she knows in their thirties who are single will be "left on the shelf". What an awful expression and outlook on it. Doesn't really seem to be the same stigma about single males at the same age. (I'm a male FWIW).


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    WindSock wrote: »
    And have Batchelor's beans, Batchelor's walk, have batchelor / batchelorette parties.

    Batchelor's seem to be celebrated as fun loving party boys who never grow up and have lots of girlfriends and cars and spaghetti hoops and things. Spinsters are miserable oul hags.

    Til not too long ago it was used to describe everything from hermits to closet (but fairly well known) gays.
    I know there's people who wonder about me because I don't manwhore around, just don't let it get to me though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    I don't think it's as bad for people to think you are gay than to think you are a complete failure at life if you have no spouse or kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Dudess wrote: »
    Spinster - old maid knitting.

    Bachelor - ok, in Ireland, farmer's son in misery, John B. Keane character; but in popular culture: the guys in Entourage and Californication.
    I'm not wealthy, beautiful or living it up in LA so those tv shows have little baring on my popular culture


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    WindSock wrote: »
    I don't think it's as bad for people to think you are gay than to think you are a complete failure at life if you have no spouse or kids.

    Well not too long ago it was seen as a pretty bad thing was it not? I don't think it was fully embraced by Irish society at large and since it's perceptions we're talking about I would have thought that mattered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭Raekwon


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    I'm kinda amazed that someone's sexuality is called into question if they've been single for a while. Not sure what circles people are moving in where that's happening, sounds like schoolboy stuff.

    I agree it's totally ridiculous but it doesn't seem uncommon unfortunately. Even my own parents think that their 40+ year old neighbor who never married is "probably abit light on his feet" as my father eloquently put it (in their defense they are quite old fashioned and stuck in their ways).

    On a really simplistic level type George Clooney into Google. I guarantee you that the first suggestion from the autocomplete will be the word 'gay'. Type Daryl Hannah into Google. Does her sexual preference appear? No? Well she is the same age as Clooney and never married or had any children either so why doesn't the word 'gay' appear for her?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Raekwon wrote: »
    I agree it's totally ridiculous but it doesn't seem uncommon unfortunately. Even my own parents think that their 40+ year old neighbor who never married is "probably abit light on his feet" as my father eloquently put it (in their defense they are quite old fashioned and stuck in their ways).

    I can understand it coming from a slightly older generation though, it was the norm for people to marry then, whereas now single life is a valid choice. All I can see is I've never seen it in my social circles; friends, work etc.
    On a really simplistic level type George Clooney into Google. I guarantee you that the first suggestion from the autocomplete will be the word 'gay'. Type Daryl Hannah into Google. Does her sexual preference appear? No? Well she is the same age as Clooney and never married or had any children either so why doesn't the word 'gay' appear for her?

    I get where you're coming from but it's not a great test as the press are always going to run with the most sensationalist stories when it comes to celebrities, whether they're true or not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Well not too long ago it was seen as a pretty bad thing was it not? I don't think it was fully embraced by Irish society at large and since it's perceptions we're talking about I would have thought that mattered.

    True, but ones sexuality comes into question in regards to women too, although probably not to the same extent. However I think there are more expectations and pressures on women to be married and have kids by a certain age too. Well the biological pressures of course are a large factor.
    Also if you are talking about the past, the very notion of the word spinster is a bit shit. It was one of the few jobs available to single older women.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Being a single man in the wrong end of my 30's I must say I don't feel any societal pressure to be 'settled down' nor do I feel any great need to.

    As for the guys who say it's so hard to get a woman - stop being so ****ing desperate - women can sense that desperateness and they hate it.

    Am I right womens?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Being a single man in the wrong end of my 30's I must say I don't feel any societal pressure to be 'settled down' nor do I feel any great need to.

    As for the guys who say it's so hard to get a woman - stop being so ****ing desperate - women can sense that desperateness and they hate it.

    Am I right womens?

    You are chuck :D (feel like I'm in Corrie, chuck)


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