Psychopaths.

Bipolar Joe · 03-05-2012 11:59PM #1

The ones that go about killing people and so on. D'you reckon they totally get what they're doing, or do they think it's some sort of service, to whoever they kill or society as a whole? I always wondered. I day dream constantly about a killing various people, and not in a "That Karl is an asshole, I'll feckin' murder him" kind of way, but I doubt I ever could. Does that make me a couple of steps away from being a psycho? I dunno, pretty sure I'm not a psycho.

Bring on the username related jokes, I'll check back after a few pages if this doesn't go and get locked.

daddydick · 04-05-2012 12:00AM

Are you bipolar by any chance, Joe?

argosy2006 · 04-05-2012 12:04AM

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

The ones that go about killing people and so on. D'you reckon they totally get what they're doing, or do they think it's some sort of service, to whoever they kill or society as a whole? I always wondered. I day dream constantly about a killing various people, and not in a "That Karl is an asshole, I'll feckin' murder him" kind of way, but I doubt I ever could. Does that make me a couple of steps away from being a psycho? I dunno, pretty sure I'm not a psycho.

Bring on the username related jokes, I'll check back after a few pages if this doesn't go and get locked.

Will you be the guy that people will look back on and think
'' if only we reported it'' 'He talked about it in forums''
'' if only someone saw warning signs''

Maybe some one should report you if you think about killing people, Geez,

Scuid Mhór · 04-05-2012 12:04AM

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

The ones that go about killing people and so on.

no that is a psychopath. common misconception would you believe. someone incapable of feeling emotions is a sociopath. a psychopath

hm

i forgot what i was going to say

oh well, have a great day tomorrow everyone!

Scuid Mhór · 04-05-2012 12:05AM

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

The ones that go about killing people and so on. D'you reckon they totally get what they're doing, or do they think it's some sort of service, to whoever they kill or society as a whole? I always wondered. I day dream constantly about a killing various people, and not in a "That Karl is an asshole, I'll feckin' murder him" kind of way, but I doubt I ever could. Does that make me a couple of steps away from being a psycho? I dunno, pretty sure I'm not a psycho.

Bring on the username related jokes, I'll check back after a few pages if this doesn't go and get locked.

i just read your full post, you sound like the least-threatening, most un-'psycho'-like guy i've ever known.

congratulations, you're normal :cool:

jimthemental · 04-05-2012 12:06AM

"It's terrible Joe, they're psychopaths Joe"

Mary from Clondalkin

MJ23 · 04-05-2012 12:09AM

I need to return some video tapes.

clappyhappy · 04-05-2012 12:09AM

So what is your difference, Joe??

IM0 · 04-05-2012 12:15AM

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

no that is a psychopath. common misconception would you believe. someone incapable of feeling emotions is a sociopath. a psychopath

hm

i forgot what i was going to say

oh well, have a great day tomorrow everyone!

wut

. he is talking about psychopaths. what are you on

celticcrash · 04-05-2012 12:16AM

If you have empathy with others than you are not psychopathic.
Most people can have very voilent toughts at times and thats normal.
its crossing the line and carrying out these toughts into actions
that make it wrong.
I dream of knocking down Bertie alot and than I get out and finish him off with a hammer. But I dont do,thats the difference.
One day Bertie one day.

Yakult · 04-05-2012 12:17AM

Joe

Deus Ex Machina · 04-05-2012 12:40AM

Most serial killers you do be hearing about are primarily motivated by a sexual dysfunction of some sort which means they are sexually excited by some aspect of murder or its aftermath. They account for the vast majority of serial killers. Then there are what's known as visionary serial killers, such as Peter Sutcliffe or the Son of Sam, who murder as part of a plan which is relayed to them by some imagined higher power. You also have goal driven killers who aim to change the world in some way with their killings, like Ted Kaczynski, who was an anarcho-primitivist and targeted centres of technological and scientific development with letter bombs.

Psychopathy is a disorder which is prevalent among serial killers, but that doesn't mean that all psychopaths are killers or vice versa.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 04-05-2012 12:52AM

Is it possible to train oneself to rise above one's conscience and kill just for the sake of killing. There was an intellectual school of thought in the 1920s called the superman complex which stemmed from the philosophical teachings of Nietzche. Its basic concept was to reach a high intellectual plain above the human conscience and to live life exactly as one saw fit ignoring laws and limits imposed by society.

celticcrash · 04-05-2012 12:54AM

Psychopaths are real cold. You can sence it off them. Your animal instincts kick in when your near one. There like zombies with no souls.
For the atheists, there like cold machines.
Its an experience to be in their company and one that I hope to never repeat.

Larianne · 04-05-2012 12:55AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Is it possible to train oneself to rise above one's conscience and kill just for the sake of killing. There was an intellectual school of thought in the 1920s called the superman complex which stemmed from the philosophical teachings of Nietzche. Its basic concept was to reach a high intellectual plain above the human conscience and to live life exactly as one saw fit ignoring laws and limits imposed by society.

Isn't that what the dude in Norway said, about training himself to have no emotion so he could kill all those people.

ziggy23 · 04-05-2012 01:00AM

Apparantly we all have the urge to kill but some people can't control it and act out on it. I love reading about murderers. Ed Gein and Jeff Dahmer are my faves. Nice blokes:D

IM0 · 04-05-2012 01:02AM

Larianne wrote: »

Isn't that what the dude in Norway said, about training himself to have no emotion so he could kill all those people.

like some sort of.......soldier

Bipolar Joe · 04-05-2012 01:03AM

daddydick wrote: »

Are you bipolar by any chance, Joe?

Yeah.

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

no that is a psychopath. common misconception would you believe. someone incapable of feeling emotions is a sociopath. a psychopath

hm

i forgot what i was going to say

oh well, have a great day tomorrow everyone!

Be quiet.

Deus Ex Machina wrote: »

Psychopathy is a disorder which is prevalent among serial killers, but that doesn't mean that all psychopaths are killers or vice versa.

That's why I made the distinction of "The ones that go about killing people and so on." You know, as opposed to the ones that don't.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 04-05-2012 01:04AM

Larianne wrote: »

Isn't that what the dude in Norway said, about training himself to have no emotion so he could kill all those people.

Yeah I think he did try and desensitise himself to a degree before carrying out his atrocity. The difference between him and the so called 'superman' is that he had a cause he was killing for. The 'superman' kills just because he can, or so the theory goes.

Sindri · 04-05-2012 01:14AM

celticcrash wrote: »

Psychopaths are real cold. You can sence it off them. Your animal instincts kick in when your near one. There like zombies with no souls.
For the atheists, there like cold machines.
Its an experience to be in their company and one that I hope to never repeat.

Psychopaths usually tend to be charming people actually.
They usually appear to be very confident and disarming.
Quite a few psychopaths do not commit crimes or murder.
They can have families and be respected members of communities.

stupidusername · 04-05-2012 01:19AM

ziggy23 wrote: »

Apparantly we all have the urge to kill but some people can't control it and act out on it. I love reading about murderers. Ed Gein and Jeff Dahmer are my faves. Nice blokes:D

just about all my books are on serial killers, we should be best friends

Sindri wrote: »

Psychopaths usually tend to be charming people actually.
They usually appear to be very confident and disarming.
Quite a few psychopaths do not commit crimes or murder.
They can have families and be respected members of communities.

Someone's been watching lots of Criminal Minds

DEFTLEFTHAND · 04-05-2012 01:23AM

Sindri wrote: »

Psychopaths usually tend to be charming people actually.
They usually appear to be very confident and disarming.
Quite a few psychopaths do not commit crimes or murder.
They can have families and be respected members of communities.

I think it was Ted Bundy who fitted this description somewhat, by accounts from people who knew him he had a charming confident personality, he was also quite good looking and popular with woman, he didn't have to lure a lot of his victims they came to him.

Simi · 04-05-2012 01:24AM

Being a psychopath means you can tell the difference between right and wrong, but you simply don't care if what you do is wrong.

It doesn't automatically make you a murderer and the number of people who are psychopaths is probably massively under reported. Most probably live normal lives taking advantage of others to get ahead and get what they want, just like regular people. They simply don't feel remorse about doing bad things to others.

Capt'n Midnight · 04-05-2012 01:26AM

worst psychopaths are those who are CEO's

the sort who jump from company to company making radical changes benefiting themselves but not the employees or customers

karnsft · 04-05-2012 01:33AM

You should try reading ''Crime and Punishment'' by Fyodor Dostoyevsky, might help you see things clearer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_and_Punishment

Sindri · 04-05-2012 01:37AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I think it was Ted Bundy who fitted this description somewhat, by accounts from people who knew him he had a charming confident personality, he was also quite good looking and popular with woman, he didn't have to lure a lot of his victims they came to him.

He also had quite a successful career and life going for him before his compulsions if that is what they were became regular.

Supposedly there is evidence of the possibility he began the gratification of his sick perversions at the age of 14.

I was looking into a treatment for psychopathy. There is a root with hallucinogenic effects used in a coming of age ceremony by males of a tribe in Africa. It appears to affect the parts of the brain dealing with remorse and guilt.

It would be interesting to see the effects it could have on psychopaths and sociopaths.

dave3004 · 04-05-2012 01:39AM

Hey Joe ! Where you gonna go with that gun in your hand? Hey Joe !

girl2 · 04-05-2012 01:43AM

http://m.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-a-psychopath-and-a-sociopath.htm

xflyer · 04-05-2012 01:44AM

As Sindri and Simi says, I happen to know a couple of classic psychopaths. They're not killers. But no doubt they would kill you if it suited them.

They can be unbelievably charming and convincing. If you suit their purposes you are their greatest friend. When you cease to be useful or fail to meet their purposes they will cut you off without any form of conscience.

It's a common miconception that psycopaths are dangerous. In fact many are highly successful in business terms because they allow nothing to get in their way.

But they're so ruthless that they often need someone to intercede and explain when they're going wrong. They are sufficiently intelligent to realise that.

Once you know someone is a psychopath you can use them to advance your own agenda. Play them at their own game because quite often they are going to be rich. If you use them properly you can take advantage of their ruthlessness. But don't think you are important to them. They will use you up and discard you without a moment's regret.

I wonder what the term is for someone like me who takes advantage of a psychopath.;)

Bipolar Joe · 04-05-2012 01:46AM

It can't be that common a misconception if every person says it's a common misconception. Maybe that is the common misconception.

celticcrash · 04-05-2012 01:46AM

Sindri wrote: »

Psychopaths usually tend to be charming people actually.
They usually appear to be very confident and disarming.
Quite a few psychopaths do not commit crimes or murder.
They can have families and be respected members of communities.

Thats if you dont know their psychopaths, I was in the once in the company of a psychopath that had carried out a few murders. Even after leaving their company I felt physical sick for a couple of hours afterwards.
And your right not all psychopaths commit murder.

Psychopaths.

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