What happened to the Anglo Irish?

LincolnsBeard · 03-05-2012 09:41PM #1

What happened to the Anglo Irish families that used to live in Ireland?

Did they move back to England when the war broke out? Do any still live in Ireland?

How do people in Ireland feel about men like Arthur Wellesley and Ernest Shackleton? Are they considered Irish heroes?

Thanks guys.

byhookorbycrook · 03-05-2012 09:44PM

Plenty of them around, I've never seen any real animosity towards them.

RichieC · 03-05-2012 09:45PM

They left after the monocle crisis of 1925.

Dyr · 03-05-2012 09:47PM

We piked a few them back in the big war just to let them know what was what but they got to keep most of the land for some reason

john why · 03-05-2012 09:48PM

We gave them a bank and then they gave us all 110% mortgages

Where To · 03-05-2012 09:51PM

I'm pretty sure most of them think of themselves as Irish-Irish, not Anglo-Irish.

golden lane · 03-05-2012 09:56PM

look at the names in ireland......and remember lots took on the gaelic version of anglo names......

Zebra3 · 03-05-2012 10:01PM

Have a look in Fine Gael.

fryup · 03-05-2012 10:05PM

squeezed out

jam_mac_jam · 03-05-2012 10:09PM

They are called Irish now.

earlyevening · 03-05-2012 10:12PM

We call them the IBRC now.

cml387 · 03-05-2012 10:12PM

LincolnsBeard wrote: »

What happened to the Anglo Irish families that used to live in Ireland?

Did they move back to England when the war broke out? Do any still live in Ireland?

How do people in Ireland feel about men like Arthur Wellesley and Ernest Shackleton? Are they considered Irish heroes?

Thanks guys.

The first president of Ireland was anglo irish and a protestant,Douglas Hyde.
Mind you,at his funeral none of the then government would go into the church 'cos it was a Protestant church.:rolleyes:
W.B. Yeats, Anglo Irish.
Lord Henry Mountcharles, has mega concerts at his pile in Meath.

One could go on.

IM0 · 03-05-2012 10:14PM

earlyevening wrote: »

We call them the I B4E EXCEPT AFTER C now.

fyp.

golden lane · 03-05-2012 10:15PM

thjere will never be as many anglo irish....as their are celtic british.........ffs...don't do a swap....

JupiterKid · 03-05-2012 10:17PM

Some returned to England after their estates were taken and divided up among the tenant farmers in the land reforms from the 1880s to the 1920s.

Most remained in Ireland and indeed many fought for Independence and were instrumental in the Gaelic revival - people like Countess Markieviez, WB Yeats, Douglas Hyde, Roger Casement, Parnell and many others.

Most "Anglo-Irish" have fully assimilated into Irish society and wouldn't for a second consider themselves anything other than Irish. My cub scout leader when I was a kid back in the '80s came from Protestant Anglo-Irish stock yet he was fiercely nationalist, bordering on republican even.

IM0 · 03-05-2012 10:18PM

they bought a bank. made lots of monies, and lived happily ever after

LincolnsBeard · 03-05-2012 10:19PM

golden lane wrote: »

thjere will never be as many anglo irish....as their are celtic british.........ffs...don't do a swap....

I have no idea what this means.

golden lane · 03-05-2012 10:19PM

IM0 wrote: »

they bought a bank. made lots of monies, and lived happily ever after

which one was that.......

cml387 · 03-05-2012 10:22PM

Arthur Wellesley (AKA The Duke Of Wellington) did not really "adopt" his country of birth.
"Being born in a stable does not make one a horse"

So we'll leave him out.

Nodin · 03-05-2012 10:26PM

Bambi wrote: »

We piked a few them back in the big war just to let them know what was what but they got to keep most of the land for some reason

...and horses, so I'm told. They all have one.

Duckworth_Luas · 03-05-2012 10:30PM

cml387 wrote: »

Arthur Wellesley (AKA The Duke Of Wellington) did not really "adopt" his country of birth.
"Being born in a stable does not make one a horse"

So we'll leave him out.

Wellesley never said that!

LincolnsBeard · 03-05-2012 10:31PM

cml387 wrote: »

Arthur Wellesley (AKA The Duke Of Wellington) did not really "adopt" his country of birth.
"Being born in a stable does not make one a horse"

So we'll leave him out.

He never said that himself. It was Daniel O'Connell that said it about him.

cml387 · 03-05-2012 10:35PM

The OP is American, I believe and deserves a serious answer even though he asked in After Hours.

The Anglo Irish who had a love for the country mostly stayed on, except for some sad instances when they suffered violence during the civil war.

To give a story from where I live,Lord and Lady Donoughmore were kidnapped from their home in Knocklofty in 1974 by the IRA.
Such was the local outrage that they were released unharmed shortly afterwards.

mikemac1 · 03-05-2012 10:37PM

Sir Anthony O'Reilly is doing his best to join them

neil_hosey · 03-05-2012 10:39PM

cml387 wrote: »

The first president of Ireland was anglo irish and a protestant,Douglas Hyde.
Mind you,at his funeral none of the then government would go into the church 'cos it was a Protestant church.:rolleyes:
W.B. Yeats, Anglo Irish.
Lord Henry Mountcharles, has mega concerts at his pile in Meath.

One could go on.

He was also a nationalist i believe and a founder of the Gaelic league which focused on the revival of irish as a spoken language

cml387 · 03-05-2012 10:39PM

Never mind that. WIKIPEDIA IS BROKEN. What'll we do now?

mattjack · 03-05-2012 10:44PM

Erm my own heritage is Anglo Irish... various family members got involved obscure wars and rows. Two clowns ended up fighting on different sides in the American war of Independence. A few served in the British army and a couple of ol' Aunts were involved in Cumann na Mban .Another one fought against Napoleon too.

The extended family used to own a large chunk of Galway at one stage .. Menlo Castle ? or something like that.

golden lane · 03-05-2012 10:47PM

mattjack wrote: »

Erm my own heritage is Anglo Irish... various family members got involved obscure wars and rows. Two clowns ended up fighting on different sides in the American war of Independence. A few served in the British army and a couple of ol' Aunts were involved in Cumann na Mban .Another one fought against Napoleon too.

The extended family used to own a large chunk of Galway at one stage .. Menlo Castle ? or something like that.

no need to feel guilty.....hope you get your castle back.....

mattjack · 03-05-2012 10:54PM

golden lane wrote: »

no need to feel guilty.....hope you get your castle back.....

Are you serious ? I'd have to property tax on it.

'Adjusts monocle'

Nodin · 03-05-2012 10:57PM

mattjack wrote: »

Are you serious ? I'd have to property tax on it.

'Adjusts monocle'

...and try to move on the crusties who think its a spiritual node or something. You wouldn't have enough to pay for your mustache wax after all that.

golden lane · 03-05-2012 10:58PM

mattjack wrote: »

Are you serious ? I'd have to property tax on it.

'Adjusts monocle'

god!!!!...you anglo's are never happy......

i think my lot came from holland with king billy............with all the land grabbing.........how come i have none....

What happened to the Anglo Irish?

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