Who do you think won the Cold War ?

Stiffler2 · 03-05-2012 03:47PM #1

As the title suggests "Who Do you think won the Cold War"

We know there was no winner / loser and no actual war, just the threat of it between the USA & the Soviets

IMO the Soviets came out the winners until their demise in 1991. Here's why I think that :

Soviets = First man in Space
Soviets = First satelite in Space

When the americans built the blackbird to spy on the soviets they had satelites flying over America taking pictures - a little more advanced than a plane.

What did the USA have / win during the cold war
an atomic bomb although the soviets weren't far behind with theirs.

So in your opinion although no winner / loser who do you think came out on top, during not after communism fell since it was just a race

Interested to hear your opinions.

The Stiff-meister

kfallon · 03-05-2012 03:49PM

Stiffler2 wrote: »

As the title suggests "Who Do you think won the Cold War"

We know there was no winner / loser and no actual war, just the threat of it between the USA & the Soviets

IMO the Soviets came out the winners until their demise in 1991. Here's why I think that :

Soviets = First man in Space
Soviets = First satelite in Space

When the americans built the blackbird to spy on the soviets they had satelites flying over America taking pictures - a little more advanced than a plane.

What did the USA have / win during the cold war
an atomic bomb although the soviets weren't far behind with theirs.

So in your opinion although no winner / loser who do you think came out on top, during not after communism fell since it was just a race

Interested to hear your opinions.

The Stiff-meister

There's your answer, no?

Next thread please......

seamus · 03-05-2012 03:49PM

In reality we all won because most of the really big technological advances that we use today can be directly traced back to cold war research projects.

The King of Moo · 03-05-2012 03:49PM

The Illuminati.

GetWithIt · 03-05-2012 03:49PM

Reagan. Single-handedly during an arm wrestling match with Gorbachev in Reykjavik.

FACT.

Bannasidhe · 03-05-2012 03:50PM

Stiffler2 wrote: »

As the title suggests "Who Do you think won the Cold War"

We know there was no winner / loser and no actual war, just the threat of it between the USA & the Soviets

IMO the Soviets came out the winners until their demise in 1991. Here's why I think that :

Soviets = First man in Space
Soviets = First satelite in Space

When the americans built the blackbird to spy on the soviets they had satelites flying over America taking pictures - a little more advanced than a plane.

What did the USA have / win during the cold war
an atomic bomb although the soviets weren't far behind with theirs.

So in your opinion although no winner / loser who do you think came out on top, during not after communism fell since it was just a race

Interested to hear your opinions.

The Stiff-meister

China.

The Soviet Union fell due in the main to economic problems.
The USA is in serious financial trouble and the country that holds their IOU is China.

seamus · 03-05-2012 03:50PM

GetWithIt wrote: »

Reagan. Single-handedly during an arm wrestling match with Gorbachev in Reykjavik.

I should hope so. It's illegal to use two hands in an arm wrestling match.

Sleepy · 03-05-2012 03:51PM

seamus wrote: »

In reality we all won because most of the really big technological advances that we use today can be directly traced back to cold war research projects.

That and it managed to reach a conclusion that wasn't the nuclear winter so heavily theorised at the time...

The King of Moo · 03-05-2012 03:52PM

Needs soundtrack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoeLqtetizo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTOQUnvI3CA

Stiffler2 · 03-05-2012 03:53PM

seamus wrote: »

In reality we all won because most of the really big technological advances that we use today can be directly traced back to cold war research projects.

Good post Seamus, I agree 100%.
alot of technology comes out of wars. Sure look what the nazi's invented :

Rockets / missiles.
jet engines
rocket planes
pistol with a clip - kruger

sonar - not sure which side this came from during WW2
radar - again - not sure which side it came from during WW2

and of course atomic energy

I often wonder if WW2 never happened we wouldn't be jetting away on holidays, wouldn't have put a man in space, wouldn't have sonar / radar etc...

anyway I agree with ya

Bill G · 03-05-2012 03:53PM

Second that, China

FishHook · 03-05-2012 03:55PM

I'd say the Soviets were winning in the 1950s and into the early 1960s. Communism spread a lot in that timeframe.

They were losing long before the collapse of the USSR, in 1991, though. They fell behind in the space race in the second half of the sixties. With regard to technology, they fell noticeable behind from about the late seventies, onwards.

foxyboxer · 03-05-2012 03:55PM

Apollo > Sputnik/Gagarin

analucija · 03-05-2012 03:55PM

Since there wasn't any direct war, only two things you can measure are the world dominance and survival. USA won. Who invented what and when is completely irrelevant.

Witcher · 03-05-2012 03:55PM

Stiffler2 wrote: »

pistol with a clip - kruger

How was that a Nazi invention?

SEPT 23 1989 · 03-05-2012 03:57PM

Rocky IV

eyescreamcone · 03-05-2012 04:01PM

In my mind two moments stick with me as to when the war was won

Ronnie Reagan started on about a "star wars" system that could shoot down Soviet nukes, thus clearing the way for US nukes to blow mother Russia to bits...USSR then threw in the towel (this actually happened in the Frankie video)

My favourite moment though was after Rocky Balboa beat Ivan Drago in an unsanctioned bout in Moscow. Rocky said to the Russians and the world "If I can change...and you can change...etc etc"

Thus the cold war ended.
T&C apply.
Based on a true story!

eyescreamcone · 03-05-2012 04:02PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Rocky IV

...and fools seldom differ

You beat me to it!

ejmaztec · 03-05-2012 04:02PM

The West lost in the end, because it led to ultra-violent organised criminals from former Communist countries spilling over the borders and spreading their sh1t across the entire planet.

rednik · 03-05-2012 04:06PM

Bord Gais.

cml387 · 03-05-2012 04:09PM

SONAR - British
RADAR - British

So Britain won the Cold War

RichieC · 03-05-2012 04:10PM

It wasn't a war, it was an arms race and an excuse to keep the huge budget the military was receiving during the second world war.

Faolchu · 03-05-2012 04:12PM

who ever had one of these

coz they were warm

housetypeb · 03-05-2012 04:13PM

The freezer won, the fridge gave up.

c_man · 03-05-2012 04:15PM

So dismiss the breaking of the atom, give a lot of credit to the Soviets for theirs (should be thanking spies tbh) and don't mention the Moon landing...

Anyways last week I had a Big Mac meal overlooking Checkpoint Charlie. Tastes like... western victory. And salt.

Chuck Stone · 03-05-2012 04:18PM

seamus wrote: »

In reality we all won because most of the really big technological advances that we use today can be directly traced back to cold war research projects.

War/conflict may advance certain fields of technology but to make the claim that the cold war was a win for humanity requires great leaps of imagination.

Huge amounts of time, energy, and resources were consumed making things with only one use - death and destruction on an unimaginable scale.

Also, it's impossible to say whether or not these technological advances would have happened regardless of the cold war.

davet82 · 03-05-2012 04:20PM

housetypeb wrote: »

The freezer won, the fridge gave up.

i was gonna say the micro wave oven

Born to Die · 03-05-2012 04:21PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

The Illuminati.

My favourite answer to everything.

foxyboxer · 03-05-2012 04:22PM

Chuck Stone wrote: »

War/conflict may advance certain fields of technology but to make the claim that the cold war was a win for humanity requires great leaps of imagination.

Huge amounts of time, energy, and resources were consumed making things with only one use - death and destruction on an unimaginable scale.

Also, it's impossible to say whether or not these technological advances would have happened regardless of the cold war.

We're still here. Thermonuclear war was a very real possibility.

ejmaztec · 03-05-2012 04:23PM

c_man wrote: »

So dismiss the breaking of the atom, give a lot of credit to the Soviets for theirs (should be thanking spies tbh) and don't mention the Moon landing...

Anyways last week I had a Big Mac meal overlooking Checkpoint Charlie. Tastes like... western victory. And salt.

I think that was done by the British i.e. Rutherford.

foxyboxer · 03-05-2012 04:27PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Rocky IV

Rambo 3 was also a defining moment in the Cold War.

Who do you think won the Cold War ?

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