Joe, I've never been to Bulgaria Joe!

Phill Ewinn · 02-05-2012 01:52PM #1

Ah here, Joe is talking to some poor woman about ''pl**inum developements''. Bought an apartment for €95,000 from savings. The Bulgarian officials won't let lots of people get their money back.

Where are these people?? Shure enough a lad from Wickla could do with knowing some fools with money.

Anyone?

micropig · 02-05-2012 01:54PM

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

Ah here, Joe is talking to some poor woman about ''pl**inum developements''. Bought an apartment for €95,000 from savings. The Bulgarian officials won't let lots of people get their money back.

Where are these people?? Shure enough a lad from Wickla could do with knowing some fools with money.

Anyone?

Lots of Mafia in Bulgaria, I'm not surprised

Investments can go up as well as down

mikemac1 · 02-05-2012 01:56PM

The mob has her money now

cocoshovel · 02-05-2012 01:58PM

I couldnt give a toss. Dont remind me that radio show exists.

Phill Ewinn · 02-05-2012 02:00PM

Hmmm. Right anyone here from the roundwood area who has gunz? May need own transport and access to a balaclava.

chin_grin · 02-05-2012 02:02PM

cocoshovel wrote: »

I couldnt give a toss. Dont remind me that radio show exists.

Ahhhhh Jayssssssuuuuusssssssss.

Green Mile · 02-05-2012 02:05PM

I'm Irish and have a Dublin accent and I can't understand what youse are on about.
Am I missing something here?

haminka · 02-05-2012 02:06PM

when googling the Platinum Devs, I came across this forum :

http://www.bulgariandeals.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3

Reading through it I feel angry at my parents who injected me with so many moral scruples I'm not even capable of nicking a chocolate bar in a supermarket. People actually invest in all kind of shoot without knowing anything about the country and circumstances. I remember watching Pope's Children and the people on the plane to Bulgaria who were chanting "We are going to buy an apartment in Bulgaria". WTF? Were they really so mad as to believe this is the best way to invest? What kind of an idiot do you have to be to buy an apartment in a country you know nothing about and probably have never been to? Do these people really exist?

micropig · 02-05-2012 02:07PM

cocoshovel wrote: »

I couldnt give a toss. Dont remind me that radio show exists.

Your could talk to Joe about it

RoverZT · 02-05-2012 02:07PM

cocoshovel wrote: »

I couldnt give a toss. Dont remind me that radio show exists.

I had some great weekends thanks to those headshops and that ****er closed them.

****.

counterlock · 02-05-2012 02:08PM

Its a bleedin' disgrace Joe!

My name is URL · 02-05-2012 02:09PM

People sure are stupid sometimes. Imagine handing that much money away without being 100% sure that it was safe to do so. No sympathy for them

And besides, what's the big attraction with Bulgaria? I was there for a stag weekend a few years ago and it seemed like a bit of a shithole. I can think of far better places to risk losing €100,000.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQCP85FngzE

ejmaztec · 02-05-2012 02:11PM

It was the Wombles' doing, giving the impression that Uncle Bulgaria was a harmless likeable fellah, when in fact he was a right thieving lying bastard.

pcardin · 02-05-2012 02:12PM

micropig wrote: »

Lots of Mafia in Bulgaria, I'm not surprised

Investments can go up as well as down

Don't think Bulgaria is something to do this at all. The biggest scum in Europe was (maybe still is ) an Irish man - Darragh MacAnthony founder and owner of the biggest scum MRI Overseas Properties. So many english and irish were riped off by him by selling tons of off-plans (without any planing permissions in place) around World, including Bulgaria. People from whole Europe is crying for him, not a word mentioned in Ireland.

haminka · 02-05-2012 02:13PM

My name is URL wrote: »

People sure are stupid sometimes. Imagine handing that much money away without being 100% sure that it was safe to do so. No sympathy for them

And besides, what's the big attraction with Bulgaria? I was there for a stag weekend a few years ago and it seemed like a bit of a shithole. I can think of far better places to risk losing €100,000.

I've been to many places in Ireland which made the Bulgarian sh..hole look like a paradise, at least they have decent weather over there. Maybe you shouldn't insult a country you probably never saw sober and know nothing about except for the genuine Irish pubs.
This is not about the country, it's about stupid people who handed over their money to fraudsters of very much Irish origin.

Sergeant · 02-05-2012 02:13PM

I haven't checked recently, but I'm sure my extensive property portfolio in Sunny Beach, Bulgaria; Dubai; and Cape Verde are moving ever upwards in value. I'm not like those other chumps who engaged in financial prudence.

jack presley · 02-05-2012 02:18PM

pcardin wrote: »

So many english and irish were riped off by him by selling tons of off-plans (without any planing permissions in place) around World, including Bulgaria.

That just sums up the whole 'Property Expo' era. To be fair, if you bought off the plans without checking if the place even had planning permission, you were always at risk at it all going wrong

token101 · 02-05-2012 02:19PM

So she spent €95000 on an apartment in a country she'd never been to? Is that the story? A fool and his money and all that!

counterlock · 02-05-2012 02:22PM

Malev airlines do really cheap flights out there
http://www.malev.hu/index_en.htm

:pac:

token101 · 02-05-2012 02:27PM

pcardin wrote: »

Don't think Bulgaria is something to do this at all. The biggest scum in Europe was (maybe still is ) an Irish man - Darragh MacAnthony founder and owner of the biggest scum MRI Overseas Properties. So many english and irish were riped off by him by selling tons of off-plans (without any planing permissions in place) around World, including Bulgaria. People from whole Europe is crying for him, not a word mentioned in Ireland.

In fairness, if you're stupid enough to buy what's essentially a site without planning permission in a country you've never been to from some young guy with a nice suit and a D4 accent, well sorry but you're just stupid and someone was going to catch you sooner or later.

Green Mile · 02-05-2012 02:42PM

I'm following now

I've been to Bulgaira many a time. Heading over again this year too. I love it there, it is a paradise if you go to the right areas.

95,000 is a lot for property in bulgaria. That's double than most are worth. It must have been a really luxury place or the buyer is truly a knob

02-05-2012 02:49PM

token101 wrote: »

In fairness, if you're stupid enough to buy what's essentially a site without planning permission in a country you've never been to from some young guy with a nice suit and a D4 accent, well sorry but you're just stupid and someone was going to catch you sooner or later.

What he said.

Spending three times what a local would pay means you were never likely to shift it anyway without a huge loss, but handing that kind of scratch over to some snake oil salesman without even setting foot in the country just smacks of compound stupidity (Joe:p).

Morlar · 02-05-2012 02:55PM

token101 wrote: »

So she spent €95000 on an apartment in a country she'd never been to? Is that the story? A fool and his money and all that!

Maybe at the time that was all she could afford ? A few years ago in Ireland that amount would only get you about 1.5 parking spaces never mind an apartment. Didn't hear the radio programme but I gather these people were victims of fraudsters /organised crime? If so, I am not really understanding the whole 'hah - serves you right' attitude of this thread.

vandriver · 02-05-2012 02:57PM

Up until now,the one good thing about this recession was not having to listen to anyone even mentioning Sunny Beach.

haminka · 02-05-2012 03:06PM

Morlar wrote: »

Maybe at the time that was all she could afford ? A few years ago in Ireland that amount would only get you about 1.5 parking spaces never mind an apartment. Didn't hear the radio programme but I gather these people were victims of fraudsters /organised crime? If so, I am not really understanding the whole 'hah - serves you right' attitude of this thread.

Why can't people really wonder about gullibility of people who were ready to invest all they could afford into an unrealistic scheme? Of course she is a victim of a fraudster but nobody was holding a gun against her head and forced her to shell out the money, she was stupid enough to believe that investment in a country she'd never been to and probably knew zero about is a great idea. It doesn't mean people agree with those who took the money and ran.

Mammanabammana · 02-05-2012 03:20PM

Talk to Joe.

micropig · 02-05-2012 03:23PM

haminka wrote: »

Why can't people really wonder about gullibility of people who were ready to invest all they could afford into an unrealistic scheme? Of course she is a victim of a fraudster but nobody was holding a gun against her head and forced her to shell out the money, she was stupid enough to believe that investment in a country she'd never been to and probably knew zero about is a great idea. It doesn't mean people agree with those who took the money and ran.

they should have watched fair city and seen what happened to bob....

haminka · 02-05-2012 03:26PM

micropig wrote: »

they should have watched fair city and seen what happened to bob....

aehm ... may I ask what is fair city and who's bob?

micropig · 02-05-2012 03:29PM

haminka wrote: »

aehm ... may I ask what is fair city and who's bob?

Overall, you're probably better off that you don't know...but if you're ever going to invest in property in Bulgaria, it could be worth your while researching what happened to Bob.

Fair city: Crappy Irish Soap

Bob was a business man, with all the Celtic tiger accessories. His investment went badly wrong on his apartments in Bulgaria:D

pcardin · 02-05-2012 03:53PM

token101 wrote: »

In fairness, if you're stupid enough to buy what's essentially a site without planning permission in a country you've never been to from some young guy with a nice suit and a D4 accent, well sorry but you're just stupid and someone was going to catch you sooner or later.

Calling someone stupid you just made yourself stupid. As the saying goes " Stupid is stupid does".

Who said I bought anything, where in my post did you see that?! :eek:
I was just a member of one of the multiple investigation teams when fraud investigation was launched on late 2008 to investigate all the property deals done by irish MacRipoffer. You'll be surprised how many people were scammed by him and his company.
And btw all the properties he sold did had planning permission "on paper". Only after the investigation turned out that most of them didnt have anything.

My name is URL · 02-05-2012 04:08PM

haminka wrote: »

I've been to many places in Ireland which made the Bulgarian sh..hole look like a paradise

Well that's your prerogative. Mine is that it seemed like a bit of a kip.

at least they have decent weather over there.

Ah ok, well that negates all of its bad points so.

Maybe you shouldn't insult a country you probably never saw sober and know nothing about except for the genuine Irish pubs.

Maybe you shouldn't make such stupidly ignorant assumptions.

Joe, I've never been to Bulgaria Joe!

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