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Sir Patrick Moore attacks Germany he still HATES it after 70 years

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  • #32
    philstar
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH9L6VonhQc


  • #33
    Dangerous Man
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    You get to a certain age and you just say what you want. Look at his trousers. Do you think he gives a shit? He's just like the honey badger.


  • #34
    Sykk
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    I'm inclined to call the lad an idiot, but I can understand his hatred after what happened.


  • #35
    comeback_kid
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    Born to Die wrote: »
    Why is it non PC to hold a hatred for something beyond a certain time? Is there a time limit on emotion. I have hated an individual for 30 years and will continue to until I die.

    My hatred for a particular individual has coloured my view of a particular country , I can see how mr Moore would feel after loosing his wife


  • #36
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    I was fully sure he'd died a couple of years back, guess not. :o


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  • #37
    Shryke
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    He has an actual real personal grievance and it isn't unjustified. Because it seems like history to most doesn't make it so for him. Without getting into the nitty gritty the war was with the state if Germany, not just some German guy and I don't think it is in any way pathetic for him to be angry or hateful. It's fairly normal, not that many on here would probably agree. Pie in the sky.


  • #38
    St.Spodo
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    Born to Die wrote: »
    Why is it non PC to hold a hatred for something beyond a certain time? Is there a time limit on emotion. I have hated an individual for 30 years and will continue to until I die.

    Because it's fairly silly to hate 80 million people who did nothing to him.


  • #39
    RGDATA!
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    RichieC wrote: »
    It's as bad as those american muppets that were cheering the tidal wave on Japan because of pearl harbour.

    link?


  • #40
    Adamisconfused
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Adamisconfused


    foxyboxer wrote: »
    I once got short changed by a shop keeper.
    This left me with no change for the bus to go home.
    I had to walk 3 miles. 3 MILES!!!
    It rained a little too and I got slightly wet.
    I got a mild head cold because of it.

    I wish death on all shopkeepers.

    :rolleyes:

    Did the shopkeeper kill your fiancée or any of your comrades as well as blow up large sections of your country in a war in which 450,000 of your fellow citizens died? Did you live in fear for your own life as you crossed enemy skies to help win a war you didn't start?

    Although to hate a whole population is extreme, you and I have no idea how a war scars a person.


  • #41
    Born to Die
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    St.Spodo wrote: »
    Because it's fairly silly to hate 80 million people who did nothing to him.

    I hate you and I have never met you, why because I associate you with something that causes me pain. :pac:


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  • #42
    Born to Die
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    RGDATA! wrote: »
    link?

    Sausage


  • #43
    JupiterKid
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    I met Patrick Moore at an Astronomy Ireland event nealy 20 years ago and he signed one of his books for me. I found him to be an absolute gent. He is a huge man - about 6'3" tall and with a very big frame. He also is very talented and knowledgeable on a range of subjects.

    I suspect he's going a bit dotty in his olf age - he is almost 90 after all. He barely contributes to The Sky At Night these days and is wheelchair bound.

    I respect Sir Patrick for his knowledge and opinions of all things astronomy related (except for his craters of the Moon theory which was debunked after the Apollo missions) and he is entitled to his personal views but it is sad to see him come out with such bitterness against Germany.

    But to Patrick Moore and my grandmother's generation Germany was always the enemy to them growing up and this is entrenched within them.


  • #44
    Biggins
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    Born to Die wrote: »
    I hate you and I have never met you, why because I associate you with something that causes me pain. :pac:

    Lube? :D


  • #45
    Stinicker
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    Wow, political correctness has gone full circle it seems it is now not ok to hate the Nazis anymore. Moore is a legend and is not afraid of the liberals and speaks his mind, fair play to him, he maybe 89 but he is lightyears ahead of this generation of people.


  • #46
    foxyboxer
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    Adamisconfused wrote: »
    Did the shopkeeper kill your fiancée or any of your comrades as well as blow up large sections of your country in a war in which 450,000 of your fellow citizens died? Did you live in fear for your own life as you crossed enemy skies to help win a war you didn't start?

    Although to hate a whole population is extreme, you and I have no idea how a war scars a person.

    Hat der Ladenbesitzer töten deine Verlobte oder einen der Kameraden sowie die Luft zu sprengen große Teile Ihres Landes in einem Krieg, in dem 450.000 Ihrer Mitbürger gestorben ist? Haben Sie Angst um Ihr eigenes Leben leben, wie du Feind Himmel überquerte, um einen Krieg gewinnen Sie nicht gestartet wurde?


  • #47
    Dostoevsky
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    Gnobe wrote: »
    Sir Patrick Moore attacks Germany he still HATES it after 70 years... "The only good Kraut is a dead Kraut"...."if I saw the entire German nation sinking into the sea, I could be relied upon to help push it down."

    What a retard. Seriously, what a grade A loser, and a bigot. Above all else a loser. Complete loser. Pathetic. As an Englishman, on this issue he lives in the biggest glasshouse in world history compliments to his country running the biggest empire in world history. Pathetic, and even worse the same cheerleaders and apologists of the same Empire will think this reprobate is a hero. Gobshíte.


  • #48
    Paparazzo
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    foxyboxer wrote: »
    I once got short changed by a shop keeper.
    This left me with no change for the bus to go home.
    I had to walk 3 miles. 3 MILES!!!
    It rained a little too and I got slightly wet.
    I got a mild head cold because of it.

    I wish death on all shopkeepers.

    :rolleyes:

    Ah come on. Surely you can't compare what the nazi regime did to getting short changed for your sliced pan?


  • #49
    Crann na Beatha
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  • #50
    Born to Die
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    When I am 89 I will fcuking speak my mind too, what's left of it.


  • #51
    Crann na Beatha
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  • #52
    foxyboxer
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    So he's advocating a genocide of the entire German race?

    That's what I take from his views on the Germany sinking analogy.

    What's really happening is that the DM reporters are using such an iconic figure
    and used his outdated views to fuel it's anti-european agenda.


  • #53
    Sound of Silence
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    If you forgive Moore for his outburst, then you're pretty much forgiving every other class A bigot out there for their antiquated views.

    It's possible to be old and rational...


  • #54
    mikemac1
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    Probably some elderly Germans in Dresden thinking the same about him seeing as he was in the bomber section of the RAF


  • #55
    Morlar
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    Stinicker wrote: »
    Wow, political correctness has gone full circle it seems it is now not ok to hate the Nazis anymore. Moore is a legend and is not afraid of the liberals and speaks his mind, fair play to him, he maybe 89 but he is lightyears ahead of this generation of people.

    He was talking about Germans.


  • #56
    My name is URL
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    Sound of Silence wrote: »
    If you forgive Moore for his outburst, then you're pretty much forgiving every other class A bigot out there for their antiquated views.

    It's possible to be old and rational...

    So he should never be forgiven for never forgiving?


  • #57
    foxyboxer
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    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Probably some elderly Germans in Dresden thinking the same about him seeing as he was in the bomber section of the RAF

    My point exactly. Dresden and the war crimes committed by Bomber command are for another thread entirely.


  • #58
    Crann na Beatha
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  • #59
    Thrill
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    The Germans wont give a toss what he thinks, their too busy with their current attempt to control all of Europe.


  • #60
    Stinicker
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    Morlar wrote: »
    He was talking about Germans.

    Angela Merkel, Joseph Ratzinger..... same same to me


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  • #61
    foxyboxer
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    Sound of Silence wrote: »
    If you forgive Moore for his outburst, then you're pretty much forgiving every other class A bigot out there for their antiquated views.

    It's possible to be old and rational...

    It's like some British family who lost a loved one during the 'Troubles' in an IRA bomb attack, absolutely despising every fibre of my or your being simply because we're Irish.

    Reminds me of a sports journalist who became somewhat addicted to the Championship Manager game. One of the players (Micah Richards iirc) was on one of the teams he was 'managing'. Now the virtual Micah was going through a bad patch of form, being undisciplined, asking for transfer requests. Being a classic pima donna. The journalist subsequently met the real Micah Richards at some event or other and mentioned that while he couldn't have been a nicer guy, he just couldn't bring himself to forgive him because of his virtual antics!


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