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Parents in shock as priest displays gay porn images [article]

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  • #62
    Tea 1000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭Tea 1000


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    EDIT
    And as someone who is very good with computer coding, creating and destroying virus', it's actually quite awkward to create a virus designed to upload specific images to someones USB from the PC. I'd be amazed if a normal child managed to pull it off.
    You're right, it's not that easy to write a virus to open photos on insertion to a PC, because a PC won't "Autoplay" a USB memory device, only a CD can potentially do that. But we don't know what happened here.
    It's possible for a virus to be transferred via USB keys to a host PC, and it's possible for a virus running as a service on a PC to open Internet Explorer on a certain website. We don't know if this happened or not, people would be shocked/flustered/surprised at the images on the screen that the only effort made would be to turn everything off to get rid of them, not try to see which application was launched.
    Also, I'd say it's not typical of a person with loads of porn pics to go and add them all to a PowerPoint presentation and save them to a USB key, so if it was PowerPoint that was launched (given that the priest was about to show a presentation), then what was it saved as? Presumably the same name as the priest thought was the real presentation. So unless they were all presentation1.ppt, presentation2.ppt etc... then it's not that hard to believe that someone (maybe 6th class kids) saved them to the presentation knowing that he'd run it.


  • #63
    Table Top Joe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭Table Top Joe


    Wow,ive never seen such acceptance of homosexuality from Christians on this board,Christians from the same Church that loathes homosexuality and regards gays as subhuman.....think "hey they were only images so what?"


    As usual we have massive hypocrisy from the RCC and its members,it really is beyond a joke at this stage


  • #64
    gimmebroadband
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭gimmebroadband


    Table Top Joe wrote: »
    Wow,ive never seen such acceptance of homosexuality from Christians on this board,Christians from the same Church that loathes homosexuality and regards gays as subhuman.....think "hey they were only images so what?"

    As usual we have massive hypocrisy from the RCC and its members,it really is beyond a joke at this stage

    You are in error sir, implying that the CC loathes homosexuality, it's homosexual acts that is sinful, and I happen to agree with the CC.


  • #65
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,415 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    gimmebroadband wrote: »
    It looks like it was a shared usb key.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/irelands-catholic-church-probing-why-priest-showed-parents-a-slideshow-of-gay-porn/2012/04/02/gIQAVG1SrS_story.html?tid=pm_world_pop

    Shared with other priests or when they say 'other church officials' who else would that involve?


  • #66
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Penn wrote: »
    Shared with other priests or when they say 'other church officials' who else would that involve?

    I'm glad I'm not the only who noticed that.


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  • #67
    Doc Farrell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭Doc Farrell


    Table Top Joe wrote: »
    Wow,ive never seen such acceptance of homosexuality from Christians on this board,Christians from the same Church that loathes homosexuality and regards gays as subhuman.....think "hey they were only images so what?"


    As usual we have massive hypocrisy from the RCC and its members,it really is beyond a joke at this stage

    See rule 3 of the charter.

    Nobody here pretends to speak for anybody else, never mind all Christians. Perhaps a little more tolerance and moderation of your views might help you enjoy your day more.

    Now that this is a Washington Post story I hope that the priest has some support and counselling to deal with the judgements of others.


  • #68
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,182 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Penn wrote: »
    I only skimmed over the article on Friday (Daily Mirror, not the Herald) but it said there was one child present.
    bensweeney wrote: »
    Where is the proof of that? where is a Link? this heading is saying that he was showing it to Kids. I thought boards.ie of all places wouldn't allow such a scandalous heading given that there was no proof that he showed it to kids.

    The BBC reported that there was a child present
    Father Martin McVeigh projected the images onto a screen during a meeting for parents in Pomeroy in preparation for First Holy Communion. One child was also present.


  • #69
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Table Top Joe wrote: »
    Wow,ive never seen such acceptance of homosexuality from Christians on this board,Christians from the same Church that loathes homosexuality and regards gays as subhuman.....think "hey they were only images so what?"

    I've had a quick look at the thread and I can't see any of the regular posters on this site saying "hey they were only images so what?", there nearest I can come to is a post by MagicMarker but as far as I'm aware that poster wouldn't be Christian.
    Table Top Joe wrote: »
    As usual we have massive hypocrisy from the RCC and its members,it really is beyond a joke at this stage

    As usual we have people making hysterical remarks about the RCC and its members on a lose-lose basis.

    Answer 1: Boooo gay porn = Christians are homophobes rarrr rarr!

    Answer 2: Ah sure twas only pictures = Christians are hypocrits rarr rarr!


  • #70
    prinz
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    Tea 1000 wrote: »
    You're right, it's not that easy to write a virus to open photos on insertion to a PC, because a PC won't "Autoplay" a USB memory device, only a CD can potentially do that..

    A PC/laptop can be set up to auto-open files on a USB inserted AFAIK you'd only need something like AutoRunnerX on your system. Doesn't need to be a virus or anything else untoward. Here's somebody with a similar issue..

    http://www.vistax64.com/vista-music-pictures-video/163839-picture-files-usb-automatically-stored-vista-temp-files.html


  • #71
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    prinz wrote: »
    A PC/laptop can be set up to auto-open files on a USB inserted AFAIK you'd only need something like AutoRunnerX on your system. Doesn't need to be a virus or anything else untoward. Here's somebody with a similar issue..

    http://www.vistax64.com/vista-music-pictures-video/163839-picture-files-usb-automatically-stored-vista-temp-files.html

    Yes, they can be set to automatically open files (you don't even need Autorunner), but it's not as simple to automatically download specific images, access the computer and then place them on a USB with one virus.

    It can be done, but it's not a simple code to write.

    /ontopic
    The whole thing is getting a bit blown out of proportion on both sides on a few forums, frankly I just find it funny no matter who it happened to.


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  • #72
    Benny_Cake
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    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Yes, they can be set to automatically open files (you don't even need Autorunner), but it's not as simple to automatically download specific images, access the computer and then place them on a USB with one virus.

    It can be done, but it's not a simple code to write.

    /ontopic
    The whole thing is getting a bit blown out of proportion on both sides on a few forums, frankly I just find it funny no matter who it happened to.

    Indeed. If he was sharing the USB stick then it is quite possible that the images were saved there by someone else (It could be a virus or something similar on a PC, but on a USB stick it would seem unlikely). But let's assume for a second that the images were saved by this priest. He has been humiliated, rendered the punch line to a thousand gags online, and whenever anyone types his name into Google in future, this will be what appears. If anyone thinks that he deserves punishment for what happened, then I think he has been punished enough. I think had I been there I would have felt half mortified, but I'm ashamed to admit the other half of me would have found the whole thing hilarious. It's like something out of South Park.


  • #73
    yoyo
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    Some computers ship with software that "autoruns" through media when a new device is detected, I think ACDsee, Corel software off the top of my head will show the pictures its found automatically on insert of the USB key. Ie quickly flash through all images during detection.
    This would be my guessing what happened here, and its not something that would happen with all setups

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  • #74
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,415 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    http://www.ulsterherald.com/2012/03/30/pomeroy-parents-hit-out-at-catholic-church-over-explicit-images-scandal/
    A statement from the parents has described how the priest put a memory stick into the computer and began scrolling through folders before opened one entitled ‘new folder’.

    From this it would sound like no Autorun program was involved.


  • #75
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    I don't even know why people are discussing auto-run, it has nothing to do with it anyway.

    All that does is open the USB main folder itself, not each folder inside and the images, and it certainly isn't how the pictures got on there in the first place.


  • #76
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    I don't even know why people are discussing auto-run, it has nothing to do with it anyway. All that does is open the USB main folder itself, not each folder inside and the images, and it certainly isn't how the pictures got on there in the first place.

    You can use it to automatically open certain file types. There is a thread on AH with people having similar close calls with "dodgy" materials automatically opening. Although seeing Penn's post above doesn't sound like it was an issue.

    We don't know how the pictures got there so there is no point discussing that either.


  • #77
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,415 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    I don't even know why people are discussing auto-run, it has nothing to do with it anyway.

    All that does is open the USB main folder itself, not each folder inside and the images, and it certainly isn't how the pictures got on there in the first place.

    Not necessarily auto-run, but more so a program on the computer which might open when media is found on an external drive once it's inserted. I know on our work computers, when we plug in an external drive (USB, camera, iphone) a program (think it's the camera software but opens for media on any external drive) autoruns and displays the first few images on it.

    A program like that may have been on the computer. But from the article I quoted, it would seem like nothing like that came up, and instead the folder with the images was opened manually.


  • #78
    HamletOrHecuba
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    Doc Farrell wrote: »

    I don't like criticizing you HorH but attacking groups within the Church instead of trying to understand the issue only freezes readers from approaching Catholicism at all, which is a grave error. I'm going now to post a rebuttal to your comment about the degeneration of the Trappist order that you mention in another thread.

    The fact is that before Vatican II the Catholic Church was growing and though often hated was always at least respected- since your heroes like the likes of Thomas Merton in his later years and John Paul II took charge of the material structures the numbers of Catholics have plummeted. You cannot get around this; by adopting your ideas the Bishops and Priests have driven people away in droves. So it would seem that its the likes of yourself who have been guilty of putting people off Catholicism. The fact that by your own admission 30 to 60 per cent of Novus Ordo hierarchy are sexual perverts which is way above the societal average even in the decadent west really shows how far gone things are.


  • #79
    smokingman
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    First off, yes; it was a pretty funny story from the headlines.
    Secondly, if there was a kid present, it doesn't matter what kind of porn was involved; an investigation has to be made as a result of this alone.
    Thirdly, I find it hilarious that the usual connection is being made by some "christian" posters between homosexuality and paedophilia.

    Just fyi, they are not the same thing.


  • #80
    yoyo
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    Penn wrote: »
    http://www.ulsterherald.com/2012/03/30/pomeroy-parents-hit-out-at-catholic-church-over-explicit-images-scandal/



    From this it would sound like no Autorun program was involved.

    My bad, I didn't mean autorun in that an autorun.inf file executed a file to do it, It appears Microsoft call it "AutoPlay" what I meant, where inputting certain devices can be set to launch a specific program, in this case a image catelogger/viewer/whatever :)

    Nick

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  • #81
    Benny_Cake
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    smokingman wrote: »
    Thirdly, I find it hilarious that the usual connection is being made by some "christian" posters between homosexuality and paedophilia.

    Just fyi, they are not the same thing.

    To be honest, I find it deeply disturbing that there are still Christians out there who do this. It's so ludicrous to equate the two that I can only assume that they have some agenda.


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  • #82
    smokingman
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    Benny_Cake wrote: »
    To be honest, I find it deeply disturbing that there are still Christians out there who do this. It's so ludicrous to equate the two that I can only assume that they have some agenda.

    I've seen the "argument" put on this very forum that homosexuality in seminaries is responsible for priests raping children.
    Beggars belief really...


  • #83
    Doc Farrell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭Doc Farrell


    HamletOrHecuba wrote: »
    Doc Farrell wrote: »

    I don't like criticizing you HorH but attacking groups within the Church instead of trying to understand the issue only freezes readers from approaching Catholicism at all, which is a grave error. I'm going now to post a rebuttal to your comment about the degeneration of the Trappist order that you mention in another thread.

    The fact is that before Vatican II the Catholic Church was growing and though often hated was always at least respected- since your heroes like the likes of Thomas Merton in his later years and John Paul II took charge of the material structures the numbers of Catholics have plummeted. You cannot get around this; by adopting your ideas the Bishops and Priests have driven people away in droves. So it would seem that its the likes of yourself who have been guilty of putting people off Catholicism. The fact that by your own admission 30 to 60 per cent of Novus Ordo hierarchy are sexual perverts which is way above the societal average even in the decadent west really shows how far gone things are.

    http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=13870

    As the joker in Batman might say; And. Here. We. Go.

    Thanks for referring to the views of Saints John Paul and Thomas Merton as my ideas.

    The future of the church is looking good! Fear, hatred and bigotry is slowly losing ground.


  • #84
    ISAW
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    smokingman wrote: »
    .
    Thirdly, I find it hilarious that the usual connection is being made by some "christian" posters between homosexuality and paedophilia.

    Just fyi, they are not the same thing.

    i agree . the links if any are between homosexuality and ephebophilia.


  • #85
    smokingman
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    ISAW wrote: »
    i agree . the links if any are between homosexuality and ephebophilia.

    ...if any...

    Think you'll find there are only links there if you make them up and want them to be part of an agenda.


  • #86
    qrrgprgua
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    So priest destroyed the memory stick after the incident and the laptop was conveniently stolen. Now the priest is on leave...

    Not really the actions of an innocent man here..... While technically he did not do anything illegal,, morally he did..

    I really do think its stinks of cover-up the whole thing.


  • #87
    Doc Farrell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭Doc Farrell


    The man is from Tyrone, where it happened. Having spent 40 years helping others his life and reputation is now in shreds. I think he has paid a terrible price.
    So what if it stinks? So what if he's not a perfect saint? How many here helped the Irish in London in the eighties? How many here helped the sick and the dying in Drogheda and Tyrone? Administered last rites at car crashes and suicides, as I know he has?
    The reason the seminaries are empty is because the catholic church has a Victorian hypocritical understanding of ordinary human sexuality. And until we deal with that raging hypocrisy the seminaries will remain empty.
    Celibacy without frustration and loneliness is possible for only the most extraordinary and focused of souls. For the rest of us it's a blessing and a bloody nuisance.


  • #88
    MrThrifty
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    Doc Farrell wrote: »
    The man is from Tyrone, where it happened. Having spent 40 years helping others his life and reputation is now in shreds. I think he has paid a terrible price.
    So what if it stinks? So what if he's not a perfect saint? How many here helped the Irish in London in the eighties? How many here helped the sick and the dying in Drogheda and Tyrone? Administered last rites at car crashes and suicides, as I know he has?
    The reason the seminaries are empty is because the catholic church has a Victorian hypocritical understanding of ordinary human sexuality. And until we deal with that raging hypocrisy the seminaries will remain empty.
    Celibacy without frustration and loneliness is possible for only the most extraordinary and focused of souls. For the rest of us it's a blessing and a bloody nuisance.

    The big issue here is that the priest in question appears to be blatantly lying now about his innocence in the whole affair and trying to cover up with the most unbelievable of stories. This kind of blatant dishonesty, not the initial events with the images, is what has undone any good the priest did previously.


  • #89
    Benny_Cake
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Benny_Cake


    MrThrifty wrote: »
    The big issue here is that the priest in question appears to be blatantly lying now about his innocence in the whole affair and trying to cover up with the most unbelievable of stories. This kind of blatant dishonesty, not the initial events with the images, is what has undone any good the priest did previously.

    I think, to be fair, that he should have probably just held his hands up and admitted it. That is, of course, if he was responsible for the images being on the memory stick in the first place, as seems to be the most likely explanation. Anyway, we'll never know. I'd tend to go along that the embarrassment would be punishment enough. I'd agree with Doc's comments on the inadequacy of the church's understanding of human sexuality though.


  • #90
    prinz
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    Digging a hole for themselves and making the whole affair a lot worse. Lessons of the past learned? Apparently not.


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  • #91
    Doc Farrell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭Doc Farrell


    MrThrifty wrote: »
    The big issue here is that the priest in question appears to be blatantly lying now about his innocence in the whole affair and trying to cover up with the most unbelievable of stories. This kind of blatant dishonesty, not the initial events with the images, is what has undone any good the priest did previously.

    Undone the any good the priest did previously? Really? You know personally the work he did with the sick, the homeless, the dying, not to mention ordinary folk? Perhaps his bishop should throw him to the sniggering media or the ultra catholic who seem to be holier than Jesus Christ himself?
    You don't know that he's lying but if he is all he's trying to do is live in a world where it's easier to be a liar than a homosexual priest. this story is big enough for the national news but the last three masses I went to in the last three days all I see are the sick, the elderly, and the poor struggling to hold onto an understanding of eternity in a society that worships xfactor horse**** but slams a man who has given his life to helping others.
    I think he's made a mistake and I think he's more than paying for it now but if you think that his hamfisted attempt at covering this episode up, watching porn by the way, not actually illegal, has outdone any good work that he has previously done with his life , then I recommend you get out there and work with the poor, the homeless and the sick, bless dead bodies, console the grief stricken and find out how easy it is.


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