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We haven't had a good Public Sector bashing thread in ages

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  • #212
    LilyCricket
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 232 ✭✭LilyCricket


    micropig wrote: »
    2) Flexitime gives staff flexibility to vary their starting and finishing times, depending on the needs of their section. Staff must be in work during the core times of 10.00am - 12.30pm and 2.30pm – 4.00 pm. A person may start work between 8.00am and 10.00am and finish between 4.00pm and 7.00pm. Staff may build up hours during a four week flexi period which can be taken as leave in the next flexi period.

    great, isn't it piggy


  • #213
    user098
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭user098


    micropig wrote: »
    2) Flexitime gives staff flexibility to vary their starting and finishing times, depending on the needs of their section. Staff must be in work during the core times of 10.00am - 12.30pm and 2.30pm – 4.00 pm. A person may start work between 8.00am and 10.00am and finish between 4.00pm and 7.00pm. Staff may build up hours during a four week flexi period which can be taken as leave in the next flexi period.

    I have a very similar arrangement in my private sector job.


  • #214
    user098
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭user098


    LilyCricket wrote: »
    Full time, 830, vec & finance

    So let me get this right, you are claiming they work up 2 hours per month but get a full day off in return ?


  • #215
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    user098 wrote: »
    I have a very similar arrangement in my private sector job.

    Did you deny its existence when you worked in the private sector?


  • #216
    LilyCricket
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 232 ✭✭LilyCricket


    user098 wrote: »
    So let me get this right, you are claiming they work up 2 hours per month but get a full day off ?

    feels like it, but thats just me bitter & over reactionary

    *hangs head in shame*


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  • #217
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    user098 wrote: »
    Yet another one envy frenzy type that did not have the qualifications or ability to apply :rolleyes:
    You make it sound like the civil service is jam packed with highly efficient, capable and learned types! Anyone who has ever tried to get anything done in this country knows better.


  • #218
    LilyCricket
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 232 ✭✭LilyCricket


    the big w*nkers!

    :(





    :D


  • #219
    user098
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭user098


    LilyCricket wrote: »
    feels like it, but thats just me bitter & over reactionary

    *hangs head in shame*

    What do you mean 'feels like it' ? Either your claiming they do, or they don't which is it ?


  • #220
    LilyCricket
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 232 ✭✭LilyCricket


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    You make it sound like the civil service is jam packed with highly efficient, capable and learned types! Anyone who has ever tried to get anything done in this country knows better.

    sc talks the smarts


  • #221
    Vizzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    LilyCricket wrote: »
    I have family in the public sector


    Always home by 1630

    and if they stay later than 4, once a week, for half an hour, they get a flexi day, every month

    this annoys me!
    LilyCricket wrote: »
    Full time, 830, vec & finance

    So just to clarify they work 7.5 hours a day and get a full day off once a month for just 2 hours extra work( quadruple pay in other words).

    Go on,come clean,your making this up as you go along, aren't you ?


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  • #222
    user098
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭user098


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    You make it sound like the Irish private sector is also jam packed with highly efficient, capable and learned types! Anyone who has ever tried to get anything done in this country knows better.

    fyp ;)


  • #223
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    3) Term Time allows staff to take 4, 8, 10 or 13 weeks unpaid leave between June and August, with the agreement of their manager and HR (Human Resources), in order to match their working arrangements to their children's summer holidays. To be eligible, a member of staff must have a child or children up to 18 years of age, be acting in loco parentis, or be the primary carer for a person with a disability who needs care on a continuing or frequent basis.:D


    Days off because your children are on holiday, nice:cool:


    Not a perk?


  • #224
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    LilyCricket wrote: »
    feels like it, but thats just me bitter & over reactionary

    *hangs head in shame*

    You know well it's not true.


  • #225
    user098
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭user098


    Vizzy wrote: »
    So just to clarify they work 7.5 hours a day and get a full day off once a month for just 2 hours extra work( quadruple pay in other words).

    Go on,come clean,your making this up as you go along, aren't you ?

    Caught telling porky pies about public servants, what a surprise. :)


  • #226
    LilyCricket
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 232 ✭✭LilyCricket


    user098 wrote: »
    What do you mean 'feels like it' ? Either your claiming they do, or they don't which is it ?


    They do get a flexi day every month as far as I'm aware,


  • #227
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    micropig wrote: »
    3) Term Time allows staff to take 4, 8, 10 or 13 weeks unpaid leave between June and August, with the agreement of their manager and HR (Human Resources), in order to match their working arrangements to their children's summer holidays. To be eligible, a member of staff must have a child or children up to 18 years of age, be acting in loco parentis, or be the primary carer for a person with a disability who needs care on a continuing or frequent basis.:D


    Days off because your children are on holiday, nice:cool:


    Not a perk?

    Unpaid. hardly a perk. Anyone can take it now, you don't have to have children. it's saving the country money in wages.


  • #228
    user098
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭user098


    micropig wrote: »
    Did you deny its existence when you worked in the private sector?

    I don't understand your question, I work in the private sector and I get flexi time.


  • #229
    LilyCricket
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 232 ✭✭LilyCricket


    hondasam wrote: »
    You know well it's not true.

    I feel so bad right now


  • #230
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    LilyCricket wrote: »
    I feel so bad right now

    I don't understand why you would say it in the first place when you know it's not true.


  • #231
    user098
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭user098


    LilyCricket wrote: »
    They do get a flexi day every month as far as I'm aware,

    For working up how many extra hours, are you still trying to claim its 2 hours a month to get one day off ?


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  • #232
    LilyCricket
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 232 ✭✭LilyCricket


    user098 wrote: »
    I don't understand your question, I work in the private sector and I get flexi time.

    do you get privilege days too?


  • #233
    Vizzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    micropig wrote: »
    3) Term Time allows staff to take 4, 8, 10 or 13 weeks unpaid leave between June and August, with the agreement of their manager and HR (Human Resources), in order to match their working arrangements to their children's summer holidays. To be eligible, a member of staff must have a child or children up to 18 years of age, be acting in loco parentis, or be the primary carer for a person with a disability who needs care on a continuing or frequent basis.:D


    Days off because your children are on holiday, nice:cool:


    Not a perk?


    Just the public sectors way of reducing the paybill by one quarter.
    I thought you'd be delighted:)


  • #234
    LilyCricket
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 232 ✭✭LilyCricket


    hondasam wrote: »
    I don't understand why you would say it in the first place when you know it's not true.

    Know whats not true?


  • #235
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    Case re: Flexi time before the labour courts 2011, the unions arguments are very valid


    There are almost 1,900 staff in the Council on flexi-time. They are allowed to take one flexi day every four weeks, i.e. 13 days per annum, over and above annual leave. However, staff in Motor Tax (178) can take an additional half day flexi leave every four weeks. This arrangement has been in place for over 20 years and the reason was for manning the strong-room at lunchtime as at that time the Council did not open to the public at lunchtime. In 2001, as a result of Better Local Government (BLG), flexi time for all staff was enhanced in exchange for extended opening hours, including lunchtime, but staff in Motor Tax retained the additional half day every 4 weeks. The Council considers this an outmoded work practice and wishes to abolish it under the Croke Park Agreement (the practice was eliminated from 1st January, 2011, but the Union wishes to have it re-introduced).

    The dispute was referred to the Labour Relations Commission (LRC) and a conciliation conference took place. As the parties did not reach agreement, the dispute was referred to the Labour Court on the 24th May, 2011, in accordance with Section 26(1) of the Industrial Relations Act, 1990. A Labour Court hearing took place on the 16th August, 2011


  • #236
    user098
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭user098


    LilyCricket wrote: »
    do you get privilege days too?

    I get days off at Christmas etc. that are not annual leave or public holidays yes.

    Now, back to the question you have been trying to avoid ;) :
    LilyCricket wrote: »
    They do get a flexi day every month as far as I'm aware,

    For working up how many extra hours, are you still trying to claim its 2 hours a month to get one day off ?


  • #237
    LilyCricket
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 232 ✭✭LilyCricket


    user098 wrote: »
    For working up how many extra hours, are you still trying to claim its 2 hours a month to get one day off ?

    to be honest they're probs padding out what they tell me

    am only private sector worker in my fam, and only go on what they tell me


  • #238
    LilyCricket
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 232 ✭✭LilyCricket


    [QUOTE=user098;78381317]I get days off at Christmas etc. that are not annual leave or public holidays yes.

    Now, back to the question you have been trying to avoid :



    For working up how many extra hours, are you still trying to claim its 2 hours a month to get one day off ?[/QUOTE]


    I don't! To a private sector person, its 4 days this year, almost a week!!!

    count yourself very lucky


  • #239
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    Vizzy wrote: »
    Just the public sectors way of reducing the paybill by one quarter.
    I thought you'd be delighted:)

    The country seems to tick along the same whether they're there or not;)


    but I've yet to see the same perk in the private sector


  • #240
    user098
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭user098


    LilyCricket wrote: »
    to be honest they're probs padding out what they tell me

    am only private sector worker in my fam, and only go on what they tell me

    You should be happy so many in your famaily are employed by the PS then.
    They probably enjoy winding you up because of your envy, begrudgery and complaints about them. I don't blame them.


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  • #241
    Monife
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭Monife


    user098 wrote: »
    So let me get this right, you are claiming they work up 2 hours per month but get a full day off in return ?

    The working day for workers in the Civil/Public service who have flexi time (not all do) is 6 hours and 57 minutes. You need to work up an extra 6 hours and 57 minutes if you want a day off the following month. You can work up a maximum of 11 hours and 30 minutes, so that would get you 1 and a half days off plus an extra hour to add to your clock for the following month.


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