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Rape tape crusty apologises and abandons her flimsy principles

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  • #62
    The Waltzing Consumer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,948 ✭✭✭The Waltzing Consumer


    smeedyova wrote: »
    A lot of the language being used here to described the lady in question is reprehensible, at best.

    Where is the moderator?

    :D Yay, you are the poster from the other thread about this topic who hinted at the possibility that the Gardai may have well broken all laws of physics in managing to rape the girl whilst escorting her from the tractor and not have any of this captured on video camera or by witnesses, protesters, gardai and the women themselves!

    It's good to have a sane voice in here...proceed :P


  • #63
    charlemont
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Im glad they atleast made it to court. Those shell 2 sea lot are all ignorant hippies with nothing better to do, the sooner that pipe is finished and theyre gone the better.

    Wait till the fracking starts !! This will be a whole new ball game. The stakes will be much higher..


  • #64
    smeedyova
    Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭smeedyova


    The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »
    :D Yay, you are the poster from the other thread about this topic who hinted at the possibility that the Gardai may have well broken all laws of physics in managing to rape the girl whilst escorting her from the tractor and not have any of this captured on video camera or by witnesses, protesters, gardai and the women themselves!
    :P

    That is a false statement.


  • #65
    Motorist
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Motorist


    smeedyova wrote: »
    A lot of the language being used here to described the lady in question is reprehensible, at best.

    Where is the moderator?

    Doing their jobs, defending the truth.


  • #66
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    charlemont wrote: »
    Wait till the fracking starts !! This will be a whole new ball game. The stakes will be much higher..

    i wish I could bulldoze the lot of them. The worst part is that more people are against fracking than the gas pipeline, so its going to be twice as idiotic and twice as wasteful of garda resources that Im paying for :(

    why cant these people just sit at home and write angry posts on forums like the rest of us, instead of not showering for months, attacking innocent people and making rape claims against gards just trying to do their jobs.


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  • #67
    The Waltzing Consumer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,948 ✭✭✭The Waltzing Consumer


    smeedyova wrote: »
    That is a false statement.
    smeedyova wrote: »
    As for false accusations on the part of the woman: I am not aware that the accusations are false and I am concerned only with the comments that I heard on the tape.

    So how is my statement false? A video with witnesses and gardai escorting a woman very gently from a tractor when the woman accuses rape at the Guards with 0% evidence and nothing within the laws of physics to back it up yet you do not acknowledge this is a false claim even though it is there in black and white?


  • #68
    smeedyova
    Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭smeedyova


    Yes, it is a false statement. I did not at any point suggest that the women might have been raped. I stated that I was not aware that the accusations were false. You are confusing two very different things.


  • #69
    Ellis Dee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    Reading some of the posts here, I note with great satisfaction that the standard of literacy, spelling and grammar among members of the Garda Siochana is markedly improving.:):):)


  • #70
    Motorist
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Motorist


    I wonder if this crusty, eternal PhD student's tax-payer funded doctorate is on something to do with moral flip-flops, and selfish and shallow self-interested principles.

    All that nonsense of locking herself to a truck and closing down a public road for hours, along with the significant time wasted of emergency services personnel, goes out the window for a visa to the home of capitalism. Just another spineless, attention seeker.

    Lorna Siggins of the Irish Times should be ashamed for the significance she attempted to attach to the original melodramatic non-story. Has to be up there with Siggins's breaking of the story of the mysterious sinking of fisherman Pat O'Donnell's boat by lads in Scuba gear. Unfortunately for Pat, he was unable to claim insurance for the sinking of his old rickety boat due to it being lost in a self-admitted "Act of Terrorism" :)


  • #71
    smeedyova
    Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭smeedyova


    Motorist wrote: »
    I wonder if this crusty, eternal PhD student's tax-payer funded doctorate is on something to do with moral flip-flops, and selfish and shallow self-interested principles.

    I'm guessing that you haven't got a PhD, right?


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  • #72
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    Reading some of the posts here, I note with great satisfaction that the standard of literacy, spelling and grammar among members of the Garda Siochana is markedly improving.:):):)

    It's actually An Garda Síochána but good effort.


  • #73
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    smeedyova wrote: »
    A lot of the language being used here to described the lady in question is reprehensible, at best. Where is the moderator?

    Do you see the irony in posting the above and then thanking a post attempting (albeit badly) to insult the intelligence of members of AGS?


  • #74
    LH Pathe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    She'd be more hippy than crusty, actually.. more timotei than matted

    crusties in such scenarios usually amounts to anarchy.. at least they did when I was a lad. Motorist is a motorist, though.


  • #75
    smeedyova
    Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭smeedyova


    No. Any self-improvement is worthy of note and praise, no?


  • #76
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    smeedyova wrote: »
    No. Any self-improvement is worthy of note and praise, no?

    If I praise you enough will you learn to discern a joke from an actual threat?


  • #77
    Pappa Charlie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 853 ✭✭✭Pappa Charlie


    MagicSean wrote: »
    It's actually An Garda Síochána but good effort.

    Ouch!!


  • #78
    smeedyova
    Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭smeedyova


    prinz wrote: »
    If I praise you enough will you learn to discern a joke from an actual threat?

    Probably not. I like to base my opinions on irrefutable evidence.:)


  • #79
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    smeedyova wrote: »
    Probably not. I like to base my opinions on irrefutable evidence.:)

    So head in sand instead of common sense. I think there's a pattern emerging.


  • #80
    Laphroaig52
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭Laphroaig52


    28064212 wrote: »
    Nope, she was told she would get two convictions and still wouldn't apologise. Then her lawyer hauled her off to a back room and presumably told her to cop the fuck on. She returned, got her lawyer to apologise for her, with an addendum that she still "thought what she did could be morally and legally justified at the time"

    But what's all this?
    You can just show up in court now and say "Sorry 'bout that" and everything's OK?

    Does the gentleman who got mixed up between apples and garlic (happens me all the time) know about this?

    Seriously though, when did saying "Sorry" get you off the hook in court?
    She should have got at least 5 "Hail Mary's" as well.....


  • #81
    charlemont
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    i wish I could bulldoze the lot of them. The worst part is that more people are against fracking than the gas pipeline, so its going to be twice as idiotic and twice as wasteful of garda resources that Im paying for :(

    why cant these people just sit at home and write angry posts on forums like the rest of us, instead of not showering for months, attacking innocent people and making rape claims against gards just trying to do their jobs.

    You can include me in that too, Fracking is a step too far and is environmental terrorism in my book. I'd strongly advise you and others to read up about it..


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  • #82
    Motorist
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Motorist


    Flyer28 wrote: »
    But what's all this?
    You can just show up in court now and say "Sorry 'bout that" and everything's OK?

    Does the gentleman who got mixed up between apples and garlic (happens me all the time) know about this?

    Seriously though, when did saying "Sorry" get you off the hook in court?
    She should have got at least 5 "Hail Mary's" as well.....

    Seems the judge took pity on her given she has publicly embarrassed herself so much. Suppose someone has to rescue her from herself. Hopefully we weren't hear of anymore victimatic nonsense crusades from her such as a TSA agent looking at her funny.


  • #83
    Ellis Dee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    LH Pathe wrote: »
    She'd be more hippy than crusty, actually.. more timotei than matted

    crusties in such scenarios usually amounts to anarchy.. at least they did when I was a lad. Motorist is a motorist, though.


    Good points. I also wonder why that word "crusty" is being bandied about so much. I must say it's rather new to me, although In have seen it used in trashy right-wing UK publications like the Daily Hatemail. It's actually a very right-wing/fascistoid thing to try and dehumanise those with whom you don't agree. The same goes for "knacker", a word that I would never use unless it referred to a person whose profession is the useful one of collecting, processing and disposing of animal carcasses.:)

    Why not just call the young lady what she is: a well-educated young person who cares enough about an important matter to take a stance? Ireland needs more people who care; we hear quite enough complaining these days about young people who don't give a crap about anything.:D Citizen participation in decision making on matters that affect all of us should be encouraged. And it is sad that those who do not themselves embrace such principles as lifelong education sneer at those who do.

    After all, the members of An Garda Síochána who are posting here should appreciate the fact that none of us who disagree with them are calling them "pigs", despite what has been revealed in recent years about Donegal and other places. Incidentally, Prinz, I did not call their intelligence into question, but far too many of them definitely need to improve their educational standard, and a few would do well to improve their manners as well.:eek:

    Dudess: I fail to understand why you object to me mentioning, in passing, that I find that young lady quite attractive. Surely a (not necessarily dirty) old man like me is allowed to say that, just as it would be OK to say "what a pretty child"?:rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • #84
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    Why not just call the young lady what she is: a well-educated young person who cares enough about an important matter to take a stance?

    ...but doesn't care enough to put her travel plans in danger... it's ok people who needed to travel that road, she will sacrifice your travel plans for the cause!


  • #85
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    Prinz, I did not call their intelligence into question, but far too many of them definitely need to improve their educational standard....

    Do you have some sort of study on this? What is the general educational standard of a member?


  • #86
    Motorist
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Motorist


    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    Why not just call the young lady what she is: a well-educated young person who cares enough about an important matter to take a stance? Ireland needs more people who care; we hear quite enough complaining these days about young people who don't give a crap about anything.:D Citizen participation in decision making on matters that affect all of us should be encouraged. And it is sad that those who do not themselves embrace such principles as lifelong education sneer at those who do.

    A stance which she apologised for and accepted was wrong for a visa to the home of capitalism. You'd find more backbone in a slug.


  • #87
    Pappa Charlie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 853 ✭✭✭Pappa Charlie


    If this lady was going to take a stance then she should have followed it through, her u turn shows how she can change her tune when it suits her and run with a cock and bull story to get a result, hardly honourable or credible. It makes the story about the deletion of the "interviews" on the tape very hard to swallow. I hope she enjoys the USA but she better not test their courts the same way!


  • #88
    ihateusernames
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 ✭ihateusernames


    So if some lad gets in scrap in Supermacs after a few too many pints will a judge dismiss his charges on the basis he might want to visit New York in a few years?
    Doubt it


  • #89
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    ihateusernames wrote: »
    So if some lad gets in scrap in Supermacs after a few too many pints will a judge dismiss his charges on the basis he might want to visit New York in a few years?
    Doubt it

    Actually yes he might very well if they had no previous.


  • #90
    ihateusernames
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 ✭ihateusernames


    MagicSean wrote: »
    Actually yes he might very well if they had no previous.

    Really? Havent seen a fella in a tracksuit in court get away with anything, even on first offences, but i won't dispute what ye said. Still think she was treated differenly though


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  • #91
    Ellis Dee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    prinz wrote: »
    Do you have some sort of study on this? What is the general educational standard of a member?


    Why don't you tell me (and the rest of us)?:rolleyes:

    For example, what percentage of Gardai have a university degree?:rolleyes:

    How many of the higher ranks (from Inspector up) have law degrees? When I worked with the Finnish police, virtually all officers from the rank of inspector up had at least an LL.B. degree.;)

    I have to say that I fairly squirmed with embarrassment at a funeral in Stradbally some time back (well, in the hotel afterwards). One of the women in my extended family is married to a Garda in Co. Mayo. He was one of the thickest, rudest, opinionated eejits I have ever come across, a blustering bully that I would hate to be alone in a cell with. A really nasty prick, and I doubt that he even has the Leaving Cert. It would have been quite pointless to even try and discuss fundamental and human rights (the field in which I was then working) with him, as I doubt that he would have been able to read even the Daily Wail without moving his lips. Only one example, of course, and the standard is, as I have already mentioned, improving. :pac::pac::pac:


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