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Poor Road Signage Pictures

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,033 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    accidental double post

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭chewed


    flazio wrote: »
    http://g.co/maps/wzyx2
    I can tell you that the estate to the left is not called 'Ballygar'. Just ahead the course of the road takes a sharp turn to right and in order to continue to Ballinasloe you must take this right turn, however if you wish to go to Ballygar you can keep going straight on.

    Unbelievable!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭chewed


    This is something I'm seeing more and more lately.

    At a junction (where you have to turn left - e.g. one way), I see this sign

    no_right_turn.png

    I had assumed this sign should only appear before you come to the junction and that at the junction in front of you the following sign should be present...

    http://t2.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/07/47/59/400_F_7475928_B17fXHki1mdnMB9fzkKCwH48IGHUDR5F.jpg


  • Posts: 31,828 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    chewed wrote: »
    This is something I'm seeing more and more lately.

    At a junction (where you have to turn left - e.g. one way), I see this sign

    no_right_turn.png

    I had assumed this sign should only appear before you come to the junction and that at the junction in front of you the following sign should be present...

    http://t2.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/07/47/59/400_F_7475928_B17fXHki1mdnMB9fzkKCwH48IGHUDR5F.jpg

    It should be one of these!

    rm27.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭chewed


    I can't recall ever seeing that sign post used! So you're saying that should appear at the junction? or before the junction?


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  • Posts: 31,828 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    chewed wrote: »
    I can't recall ever seeing that sign post used! So you're saying that should appear at the junction? or before the junction?

    It's a "turn left ahead" sign and should be before the junction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭chewed


    So this sign is incorrect? In the UK they use this in the same situation.

    http://t2.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/07/47/59/400_F_7475928_B17fXHki1mdnMB9fzkKCwH48IGHUDR5F.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,904 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    chewed wrote: »
    So this sign is incorrect? In the UK they use this in the same situation.

    http://t2.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/07/47/59/400_F_7475928_B17fXHki1mdnMB9fzkKCwH48IGHUDR5F.jpg

    That is "Go left now" as opposed to "Turn left ahead".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,239 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    In the UK you'd have a "turn left ahead" on the approach to the junction and a "turn left now" facing you across the junction-the proper way to do it:

    A1 (NI)

    The fewer "no x turn" signs the better IMO. They don't exist at all in Germany. They really are redundant once you introduce the concept of the blue/white "must do" signs-you can convey the same meaning using only these and eliminate one more thing for the driver to pay attention to.

    In Germany the junction approach has a blue/white "must do" sign which shows you all the ways you may turn on it and if your prefered route is not on there, you may not proceed. I would generally prefer UK signage norms over German (but German over Irish as at least the German norms are actually implemented properly 99% of the time-I would prefer Irish if we implemented everything properly) but this is one aspect the Germans have spot on IMO.

    Typical example (you must turn left or right, but may not proceed straight on):
    Berlin example


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    What I find infuriating...

    Road works signs for road closed/diversions left on display all evening/night/weekend when the works have finished and road is OPEN! This is currently happening near me right now. Lazy ass council men.
    Directional signs esp. at junctions with NO kms.
    Signs for tourist attractions in a sh*tty brown colour that are usually tiny and hard to see anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭chewed


    What I find infuriating...

    Road works signs for road closed/diversions left on display all evening/night/weekend when the works have finished and road is OPEN! This is currently happening near me right now. Lazy ass council men.
    Directional signs esp. at junctions with NO kms.
    Signs for tourist attractions in a sh*tty brown colour that are usually tiny and hard to see anyway.

    What I find funny/irritating is when they're resurfacing and they put up "No Road Markings" signs near where I live....on a country road where there have never been road markings (well, not in my lifetime!).

    Or the amount of times, temporary Speed limit signs are left up long after the road works have completed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 674 ✭✭✭etchyed


    murphaph wrote: »
    IThe fewer "no x turn" signs the better IMO. They don't exist at all in Germany. They really are redundant once you introduce the concept of the blue/white "must do" signs-you can convey the same meaning using only these and eliminate one more thing for the driver to pay attention to.
    This is entirely a matter of taste. I don't see how posting this...

    216249.gif

    ...rather than this...

    216254.jpg

    ...would mean a driver has less to pay attention to.


  • Posts: 31,828 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stolen from another thread. ;)
    bnt wrote: »
    Today's topic in Engineering: a lesson in Structural Dynamics, featuring the oscillatory effects of a wind-generated Von Kármán vortex street on a tubular frame. Or, in layman's terms: "what the hell?"





  • Posts: 31,828 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    chewed wrote: »
    What I find funny/irritating is when they're resurfacing and they put up "No Road Markings" signs near where I live....on a country road where there have never been road markings (well, not in my lifetime!).

    Or the amount of times, temporary Speed limit signs are left up long after the road works have completed!

    That's a bit like the contractors who put up "No overtaking" signs on a single track road, have seen several near me recently. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭chewed


    So, this is what greets tourists coming off the ferry at Dun Laoghaire! What an embarrassment!!!

    2013-06-17142726.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    That signage is also very ugly looking too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    There's an even better example on the old N4 Enfield bypass, eastbound there is an advance sign telling you what's left & right at the crossroads ahead and at the crossroads a pair of no Left & no Right turn signs!

    Looks like they implemented the no-right-turn sign after the direction sign. Possibly due to queuing or accidents. They should have patched out the direction sign though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    I honestly think Ireland would be far better off moving towards a proper EU-harmonised Vienna Convention based signage system.

    We should have done this 20+ years ago when we were starting the major road building projects rather than sticking to this hodge-podge of national systems that isn't even implemented correctly most of the time (especially on non-major routes).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭n0brain3r


    https://maps.google.ie/?ll=53.37506,-6.533432&spn=0.019842,0.055747&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=53.375096,-6.533564&panoid=kUwO02cFZca_P9kzpHji0A&cbp=12,98.28,,1,2.91 I can never understand why either the lighting or signage guys didn't use some common sense here during installation :confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    n0brain3r wrote: »
    https://maps.google.ie/?ll=53.37506,-6.533432&spn=0.019842,0.055747&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=53.375096,-6.533564&panoid=kUwO02cFZca_P9kzpHji0A&cbp=12,98.28,,1,2.91 I can never understand why either the lighting or signage guys didn't use some common sense here during installation :confused:

    There's an even worse mess at the Kinsale Road interchange coming in from Cork Airport.

    As you get to the roundabout, the NRA has installed new signage for the N40 Cork Ring resignage right in front of a traffic light in one case!

    You'd seriously think a traffic light's visibility was more important than a direction sign!

    It doesn't completely obscure the lights but it's in the way which is ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭n0brain3r


    You reminded me of this roundabout https://maps.google.ie/?ll=53.412307,-6.44582&spn=0.004982,0.013937&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=53.412248,-6.445936&panoid=YBlvjgtdA1FNV-xk4Fi0rA&cbp=12,238.88,,0,7.9 at Clonee street view doesn't do it justice but that sign obscures the view at the last minute when entering the roundabout necessitating a stop rather than yield as it is you can see it's almost hiding an entire car!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    n0brain3r wrote: »
    https://maps.google.ie/?ll=53.37506,-6.533432&spn=0.019842,0.055747&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=53.375096,-6.533564&panoid=kUwO02cFZca_P9kzpHji0A&cbp=12,98.28,,1,2.91 I can never understand why either the lighting or signage guys didn't use some common sense here during installation :confused:

    Brilliant, an official speed limit of zero kmph


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3 Singers


    chewed wrote: »
    So, this is what greets tourists coming off the ferry at Dun Laoghaire! What an embarrassment!!!

    2013-06-17142726.jpg


    Could be designated a heritage area! There seems to be several generations of signs there.

    The black & white ones with the arrows were once the norm on all main roads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭daymobrew


    On Wolfe Tone Quay the signs about the bus lanes and merging says "Mon - Sath", probably because the Irish above it is "Luan - Sath"
    The typos are on a sticker so easy to fix.

    Here is a blurry Street View image Google Maps.

    I'll report it to Fix Your Street.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭glossy


    I'll report it to Fix Your Street.[/QUOTE]

    thanks for this, booked marked


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭amen


    etchyed wrote: »
    This is entirely a matter of taste. I don't see how posting this...

    216249.gif

    ...rather than this...

    216254.jpg

    ...would mean a driver has less to pay attention to.

    because the blue sign tells you the only actions you are allowed to take which is straight ahead or turn left.

    With the blue sign you cannot turn right, you cannot do a u-turn etc.

    If you used the red signs you would have to list all the non per-missable actions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 674 ✭✭✭etchyed


    amen wrote: »
    because the blue sign tells you the only actions you are allowed to take which is straight ahead or turn left.

    With the blue sign you cannot turn right, you cannot do a u-turn etc.

    If you used the red signs you would have to list all the non per-missable actions.
    I can't remember the last time I saw a no u-turn sign. If you take them out of the equation, the meaning of the two signs is the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,947 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    There's a couple in Dublin on the Long Mile Rd. outbound.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,239 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    etchyed wrote: »
    I can't remember the last time I saw a no u-turn sign. If you take them out of the equation, the meaning of the two signs is the same.
    No U turn signs are common enough. Anyway, the blue signs are a better way of doing it as you can more easily depict the allowed movements (and by inference the disallowed movements) at complex junctions. Not all junctions are crossroads or T junctions.

    There is simply no reason to mix n' match the positive and negative version of the same instruction. The example of Germany shows it is superfluous to use both.


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