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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,748 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    So Rangers and McCoist did know the identity of the 3 man panel before McCoist went on TV demanding to know their identities so they can be brought to task

    This takes a more sinister turn and McCoist should be charged with breaching SFA rules and the PF should look to bring criminal charges for incitement. I can only imagine the uproar if Lennon done what McCoist done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,229 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Jelle - Alex Thompson says that reports that Strathclyde Police have dropped the case against him are false and the story is made up - https://twitter.com/alextomo/status/195370722238005248


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Jelle - Alex Thompson says that reports that Strathclyde Police have dropped the case against him are false and the story is made up - https://twitter.com/alextomo/status/195370722238005248

    He says a lot of things ;)

    McCoist clarifies his statements:
    RANGERS boss Ally McCoist has reiterated his belief that the season-long transfer embargo imposed by the SFA's judicial panel is inherently wrong and will be robustly appealed.
    He has also reaffirmed his belief that the three-man panel who made this decision should be identified to the public at large in the spirit of transparency.


    However, he has urged all supporters to desist from any form of threatening behaviour which, he says, would do a dis-service to the club and disgust him.
    He said: "I would like to make quite clear my position in relation to the decision by the SFA's judicial panel which earlier this week imposed sanctions against Rangers which have far reaching consequences for our club and Scottish football.


    "I firmly believe that decisions of this magnitude should be fully transparent and everyone should have confidence in the system that has been created to deliver such a finding.


    "When I called for full transparency on Tuesday I took the view that the decision by the judicial panel should be subject to proper scrutiny. It is unthinkable in any walk of life that such a significant punishment would be meted out without full transparency.


    "I fully understand that there are difficult decisions to be taken in football and they will never suit everyone but in this day and age clarity and transparency are surely of paramount importance.


    "That said, I would not for one moment want anyone to interpret my remarks as a signal to engage in any form of threatening behaviour. Such activity disgusts me and anyone who engages in it does Rangers Football Club nothing but harm. No Rangers supporter should get themselves involved in it - not now nor at any time.


    "Our focus has got to be firmly on ensuring that the Club's case in appealing the sanctions imposed on us is put forward robustly and in the appropriate manner.



    "Rangers Football Club was a victim of what happened during the tenure of Craig Whyte. The Club was not an accomplice, a co-conspirator nor a perpetrator of wrongdoing.



    "We suffered from it and still are. I hope that our appeal can be dealt with by the SFA as quickly as possible as the situation for the Club and the possible ramifications for Scottish football are very serious."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,748 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/21st-century-rules-applied-rangers/1302
    Faced with a judicial process at the Scottish Football Association and a due appeal process (active now) to be heard before a retired judge or QC – faced with all that, what does the Rangers manager Ally McCoist do?

    Bide his time? Seek appeal advice? Reserve comment on an obviously sub-judicial procedure?

    No – he suddenly demands on Rangers TV on Tuesday that the Scottish Football Association panel which imposed a 12 month ban on the club buying players be identified in public.

    As an act of such irresponsibility in the current climate beggars belief. Like so many in this drama Mr McCoist goes “public” in an environment where I doubt he’ll never be properly questioned.

    Far from letting due process happen and preparing the case for appeal, Mr McCoist chooses a lynch mob approach potentially putting the safety of these people at risk.

    ....

    Will Mr McCoist be equally “public” in facing up to the responsibility of what he’s done? Given the cowardice of his initial act, you have to say it’s doubtful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Drysdale, Allan and Murning were hand-picked for the tribunal

    So whatever happened to the 'cab rank system' Regan ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,229 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    McCost - 'We are victims'

    Disgraceful behaviour from the cheeky chappy. Double standards all over the shop when compared to how Neil Lennon gets treated.

    Looking forward to TheBrewster coming on and absolutely imploding at the McCoist's behaviour... Oh wait, it's only Lennon that gets that treatment from him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    lol, this is just getting silly now.

    McCoist's "Behaviour"?
    He angrily reacted to unprecedented punishment from the SFA, rightly or wrongly he gave an interview asking for transparancy.

    How exactly would any other manager, of any other club react?
    McCoist didnt name anyone, McCoist didnt give anyone any details, He simply asked a question.

    The media in Scotland are a ****ing disgrace. How the BBC and SSN can morally, and indeed legally get away with reporting as fact that suspicious packages were sent to these men is completely beyond me.
    Never mind though, i'm sure we can just blame McCoist for that too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    McCost - 'We are victims'

    Disgraceful behaviour from the cheeky chappy. Double standards all over the shop when compared to how Neil Lennon gets treated.

    Looking forward to TheBrewster coming on and absolutely imploding at the McCoist's behaviour... Oh wait, it's only Lennon that gets that treatment from him.

    Dry your eyes :rolleyes:

    Or have you forgotten how Lennon has treated officials ?

    By the way, this is the same media acting outraged, who in the past have printed personal details of players and officials.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    I haven't been keeping up with the fine details of the story but from what I have heard I would think McCoist was right to demand transparency, was there any good reason why the 3 panels members should have been kept private apart from them running the risk of getting a few nasty emails?

    Also did the Rangers defense team make any criticism of choice of the 3 man panel prior to the judgement being announced?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    McCoist letting himself down badly in the last couple of days, pandering to the dregs of Rangers supporters. McCoist should be careful not to associate himself with Scotland's Shame. Extricating Rangers from it's dodgy past and it's dodgy flank of support would be more in his line.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,748 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    I haven't been keeping up with the fine details of the story but from what I have heard I would think McCoist was right to demand transparency, was there any good reason why the 3 panels members should have been kept private apart from them running the risk of getting a few nasty emails?

    Also did the Rangers defense team make any criticism of choice of the 3 man panel prior to the judgement being announced?

    Rangers had a rep at the hearing therefore knew who the panel members were. McCoist was playing to gallery when he demanded to know who they were in public. His cheeky chappy mask is slipping and the pressure is getting to him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    McCoist letting himself down badly in the last couple of days, pandering to the dregs of Rangers supporters. McCoist should be careful not to associate himself with Scotland's Shame. Extricating Rangers from it's dodgy past and it's dodgy flank of support would be more in his line.

    Care to explain how?

    Or is this just the opportune moment for you to have your stock dig at the Rangers support?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    Eirebear wrote: »
    Care to explain how?

    Or is this just the opportune moment for you to have your stock dig at the Rangers support?

    Not having a dig at the entire Rangers support, just the dodgy flank in their number. The dodgy flank, that McCoist should be careful not to associate himself with no matter how unwittingly. He has responsibilities in that regard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Drysdale says:

    "“I genuinely believe when the statement of reasons is published obviously Rangers can and no doubt will appeal".

    Sounds like he thinks we have every right to appeal this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Not having a dig at the entire Rangers support, just the dodgy flank in their number. The dodgy flank, that McCoist should be careful not to associate himself with no matter how unwittingly. He has responsibilities in that regard.

    Fair enough - but i still don't understand how McCoist giving an interview does this.

    How about the reports on both BBC and SSN which had mentioned "Suspicious packages" being sent to at least one of the three men?
    Surely that sort of disgusting, misinformed, scandalous reporting is something which must be brought under the microscope?
    People are very quick to have a go at the media around here usually, today though those people seem more interested in revelling in the idea that McCoist, a man who has been involved with the club for the majority of his career, nay the majority of his life is feeling a bit rattled by what's happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,748 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Old Gill


    McCoist, the catalyst of the Neil Lennon death threats and now solely responsible for SFA employees fearing for their lives

    Poisonous bigot.

    as a celtic fan I dont really think mccoist is a bigot as such (though he was allegedly one of those very against catholic mo johnstone signing). I do however think his comments this week were inflammatory/irresponsible and very dangerous considering rangers fans have previous when it comes to carrying out threats such as the 3 bombs last year and if anything happens the sfa panel then he would have to shoulder some of the blame for putting the spotlight on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Old Gill wrote: »
    as a celtic fan I dont really think mccoist is a bigot as such (though he was allegedly one of those very against catholic mo johnstone signing). I do however think his comments this week were inflammatory/irresponsible and very dangerous considering rangers fans have previous when it comes to carrying out threats such as the 3 bombs last year and if anything happens the sfa panel then he would have to shoulder some of the blame for putting the spotlight on them.

    Ah, that old chestnut again :rolleyes:

    Those scumbags have nothing to do with Rangers.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    Old Gill wrote: »
    as a celtic fan I dont really think mccoist is a bigot as such (though he was allegedly one of those very against catholic mo johnstone signing). I do however think his comments this week were inflammatory/irresponsible and very dangerous considering rangers fans have previous when it comes to carrying out threats such as the 3 bombs last year and if anything happens the sfa panel then he would have to shoulder some of the blame for putting the spotlight on them.

    Really I didn't know that.

    Regardless of that, McCoist's injudicial comments over the last couple of days shows a different side to the cheeky chap that cracks inane jokes on Question of Sport. McCoist needs to cop himself on, somebody should have a word with the boy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Old Gill wrote: »
    as a celtic fan I dont really think mccoist is a bigot as such (though he was allegedly one of those very against catholic mo johnstone signing). I do however think his comments this week were inflammatory/irresponsible and very dangerous considering rangers fans have previous when it comes to carrying out threats such as the 3 bombs last year and if anything happens the sfa panel then he would have to shoulder some of the blame for putting the spotlight on them.

    Nice one, slip in a wee bit of propoganda while you're at it.
    You seen our new socks? They're white. Must be really cleaning up our act!

    MoJo and McCoist were very close pals due to being room mates on Scotland trips, and he was one of the first players who found out about his impending signing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Eric Drysdale on SSN saying he hasnt recieved any threatening communication.

    Good old Scottish media, Good old mockrage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Eirebear wrote: »
    Eric Drysdale on SSN saying he hasnt recieved any threatening communication.

    Good old Scottish media, Good old mockrage.

    And what about the others?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Dempsey wrote: »
    And what about the others?

    If they don't say anything then I assume nothing happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    If they don't say anything then I assume nothing happened.

    The bullshít deflection responses from Rangers supporters over this are laughable.

    As for the logic above, you really must be thick to assume that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Dempsey wrote: »
    The bullshít deflection responses from Rangers supporters over this are laughable.

    As for the logic above, you really must be thick to assume that.

    Wait a minute. Bull**** deflection?

    Since last night we've went from "Suspicious Packages" to "Threatening Communication" to the only one of the three to do any interviews saying "I've had nothing".

    Bull**** deflection?
    How about non-story?
    How about disgraceful journalism?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Eirebear wrote: »
    Wait a minute. Bull**** deflection?

    Since last night we've went from "Suspicious Packages" to "Threatening Communication" to the only one of the three to do any interviews saying "I've had nothing".

    Bull**** deflection?
    How about non-story?
    How about disgraceful journalism?

    Why dont you post exactly what Drysdale said? Lets see if you can manage that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Why dont you post exactly what Drysdale said? Lets see if you can manage that

    Oooohhhh! Someone's getting a little bit condescending arent they? "Let's see if you can manage that?"
    Are you disapointed the big bad Bears havnt tried to kill anyone yet?
    To paraphrase Drysdale as i don't have a video to hand.
    "I've recieved no threatening communication, I've recieved emails from Rangers fans expressing their anger at the decision but that was to be expected. I have recieved no telephone calls and no direct threats."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Eirebear wrote: »
    Oooohhhh! Someone's getting a little bit condescending arent they? "Let's see if you can manage that?"
    Are you disapointed the big bad Bears havnt tried to kill anyone yet?
    To paraphrase Drysdale as i don't have a video to hand.
    "I've recieved no threatening communication, I've recieved emails from Rangers fans expressing their anger at the decision but that was to be expected. I have recieved no telephone calls and no direct threats."

    Now you are being an idiot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Why dont you post exactly what Drysdale said? Lets see if you can manage that

    Here you go:
    Interviewer - Tell me first about the threats, the abuse that you have had...........

    ED - Well, there have been calls and emails to the club and a couple of silent phone calls on my mobile phone, but apart from that, there hasn't been any direct threats to myself, so far.

    Int - And the calls and the emails, what has been the content of them?

    ED -Just expressing disgust about the decision that was made by the Judicial Panel.

    Int - What are your thoughts about that abuse, those threats ........ (Eh, he just said he wasn't threatened or abused, you tosser)

    ED - Well, the one thing I would say, is that when the Statement of Reasons does come out, that I hope that sensible people will understand that there was logic behind the decisions reached, that there was logic behind the decisions reached both for Rangers and Craig Whyte and will say that the panel has been fair.

    Int - The fact that there has been this sort of violent reaction, what are your thoughts about that?.......

    ED - I know I have been steeped in football all my life, I know emotions run high. As I have said, if it had been my club threatened with extinction, I would be upset, I would be lashing out, I have no axe to grind at all with any football club. I have no wish to see Rangers die, or any other club die, but equally, there has to be some sort of suitable sanction for offences that have been proved.

    Int - But the fact that it has come to threats on the internet, emails, phone calls, the police advising you on personal safety, I assume implication for your family and so on, what are your thoughts on that, that level of reaction? ..........

    ED - Yes, I've been surprised by that. When we reached the decision we were conscious we weren't going to please everybody. We thought that some people might think that we were too severe, some people might think the other way. So, we knew that there would be some sort of reaction, but certainly the level of reaction has surprised me and certainly both Strathclyde Police and Tayside Police have taken the threat seriously and been of good assistance to me.

    So until either Strathclyde Police or anyone else from the SFA comes out with who was threatened, in what way and what the threats were I will choose not to believe any of this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Now you are being an idiot

    Maybe so - but the reaction to last night's non-story on here, in other parts of the media and elsewhere has been nothing short of over the top.

    You're always one of the first people to tear into how things are reported in Scotland, yet for some reason you cannot see just how wrong, misinformed and downright dangerous their actions where last night.
    Today's heightened tensions have come from their mishandling and their jumping the gun on the tiniest bit of information.
    Not Rangers and not McCoist.


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