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It's not just the pyjama wearers....GARDAI receive RENT ALLOWANCE

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  • #212
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Mustering up... keyboard... rage (but not bothering to do anything else)...

    Nah, **** it...


  • #213
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Dudess wrote: »
    Mustering up... keyboard... rage (but not bothering to do anything else)...

    Nah, **** it...

    Ah go on, you know you want to. :p


  • #214
    Mightymouse vs Dangermouse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭Mightymouse vs Dangermouse


    Magic sean and nodin are guards im guessing????
    YOu guys, take off the badge and look at life through the eyes of those you payed to protect!! Remember, guards are public servants, in other words TO SERVE THE PUBLIC. Any hospital worker will do 48 hrs and more in 112 hrs, whata pathetic argument. Anyone who has there own business would probably put those hrs in 3 days!! Guys please, ye must have a mental disease if thats what ye believe should entitle rent allowance!
    This country is so sad!!


  • #215
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Mightymouse vs Dangermouse wrote: »
    Magic sean and nodin are guards im guessing????
    .............!!

    You'd be guessing wrong in my case.


  • #216
    Mightymouse vs Dangermouse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭Mightymouse vs Dangermouse


    my bad. But i think you should join the force.


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  • #217
    TheLastWord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4 ✭TheLastWord


    All NCHD's (Non-Consultant Hospital Doctors, i.e. not Consultants!) get a 'Living Out Allowance'. As recently as Feb. 2011 it was kept in their contract. The only ones who wouldn't get it are Locums, but at €45 to €83/hr it's OK. Amounts to €61.20 per week.


  • #218
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Mightymouse vs Dangermouse wrote: »
    my bad. But i think you should join the force.

    I'm too old.


  • #219
    oholly121
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭oholly121


    their job is hard enough and the pay aint that good let the have it


  • #220
    Mightymouse vs Dangermouse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭Mightymouse vs Dangermouse


    wheres the rule work is supposed to be easy. I better get a 6 pack of "cop on" And give some out!


  • #221
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    micropig wrote: »
    Yes Gardai have a good basic wage & allowances for a lot of other things on top of that, this allowance is about €4,100 / year



    Maybe Brenda Howlin will do away with it, hopefully[/URL] Thursday, January 19, 2012

    Allowances not made for guards and teachers in savings ideas

    A call by Minister for Public Expenditure Brendan Howlin for submissions from the public on how the State could save money has yielded over 1,000 responses – along with a few unorthodox ideas.

    As well as the public, many nurses, gardaí and teachers sent in ideas on how to tackle mismanagement and inefficiency across the public sector.

    One garda commented that 20 per cent of the force did little or nothing and should not receive pay increments. Instead, they should be paid on the basis of performance.

    How do measure Garda performance? arrests? like in America? where you have stupid arrests being made just to fill quotas? the stupid burns.


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  • #222
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    RichieC wrote: »
    How do measure Garda performance? arrests? like in America? where you have stupid arrests being made just to fill quotas? the stupid burns.

    well, you could start with fitness levels...


  • #223
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    micropig wrote: »
    well, you could start with fitness levels...

    How is that a measure of performance? It's a measure of capability for certain aspects of the job. The only measurable performance would have to be along the lines of arrests and prosecutions. Of course then you'd have people giving out about over zealous Gardaí. The fact is there are some jobs that can't be quantifiably assessed.


  • #224
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    MagicSean wrote: »
    How is that a measure of performance? It's a measure of capability for certain aspects of the job.

    I think you answered your own question there


    If you're not capable - you can't perform;)


  • #225
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    micropig wrote: »
    I think you answered your own question there


    If you're not capable - you can't perform;)

    So you don't think their performance should be assessed, just their capability? I don't think that would be a problem. Regular eye tests and driving tests too maybe. Then we can have marathon runners with good eye sight and Bond like driving skills. They may not have people skills are intelligence but at least they can catch the odd fella who runs away.

    As your so obsessed concerened about Garda working conditions you will be interested to know that Gardaí will no longer be forced to work contrary to the EU Working Time Directive. I wonder if the Garda Representative Association has considered suing the government for the excessive and long standing abuse of it's workers in this manner? I trust you would support such a case?


  • #226
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    MagicSean wrote: »

    As your so obsessed concerened about Garda working conditions you will be interested to know that Gardaí will no longer be forced to work contrary to the EU Working Time Directive. I wonder if the Garda Representative Association has considered suing the government for the excessive and long standing abuse of it's workers in this manner? I trust you would support such a case?

    Cant see this happening then again you would never know.


  • #227
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    MagicSean wrote: »
    So you don't think their performance should be assessed, just their capability? I don't think that would be a problem. Regular eye tests and driving tests too maybe. Then we can have marathon runners with good eye sight and Bond like driving skills. They may not have people skills are intelligence but at least they can catch the odd fella who runs away.

    As your so obsessed concerened about Garda working conditions you will be interested to know that Gardaí will no longer be forced to work contrary to the EU Working Time Directive. I wonder if the Garda Representative Association has considered suing the government for the excessive and long standing abuse of it's workers in this manner? I trust you would support such a case?

    Yes I would prefer if the Gardai where fit marathon runners with Bond driving skills, at least they would seem capable of doing something other than ordering from the drive through, that's the impression they give at the moment

    So less hours now are you going to demand wages should also be restructured in line with the new hours? what's the excuse for receiving rent allowance now?


  • #228
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    micropig wrote: »
    Yes I would prefer if the Gardai where fit marathon runners with Bond driving skills, at least they would seem capable of doing something other than ordering from the drive through, that's the impression they give at the moment

    So less hours now are you going to demand wages should also be restructured in line with the new hours? what's the excuse for receiving rent allowance now?

    Who said anything about less hours?


  • #229
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    micropig wrote: »
    Yes I would prefer if the Gardai where fit marathon runners with Bond driving skills, at least they would seem capable of doing something other than ordering from the drive through, that's the impression they give at the moment

    So less hours now are you going to demand wages should also be restructured in line with the new hours? what's the excuse for receiving rent allowance now?

    Christ, you're bitter.


  • #230
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    MagicSean wrote: »
    Who said anything about less hours?

    Ye agreed to the old rosters under Croke park..more interested in your fat pay packets than work conditions at that meeting were ye? and now ye want sympathy..:rolleyes:


  • #231
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    micropig wrote: »
    Ye agreed to the old rosters under Croke park..more interested in your fat pay packets than work conditions at that meeting were ye? and now ye want sympathy..:rolleyes:

    What are you on about? Do you even know what you are on about?
    No one is looking for sympathy.


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  • #232
    al28283
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    Micropig, all your recent posts have been extremely silly and pointless


  • #233
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Nodin wrote: »
    Christ, you're bitter.

    What is it anyway, why have they the right to receive rent allowance. I really don't understand why?


  • #234
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    44leto wrote: »
    What is it anyway, why have they the right to receive rent allowance. I really don't understand why?

    Because for the first few years of the job you're fucked around from billy to jack and back again. They used to have barracks attached to the stations, but they're all long gone.


  • #235
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    micropig wrote: »
    Yes I would prefer if the Gardai where fit marathon runners with Bond driving skills, at least they would seem capable of doing something other than ordering from the drive through, that's the impression they give at the moment

    Do please explain this remark, with a few examples from mainstream sources please.


  • #236
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    micropig wrote: »
    Ye agreed to the old rosters under Croke park..more interested in your fat pay packets than work conditions at that meeting were ye? and now ye want sympathy..:rolleyes:

    Eh no. The old rosters have been there a long time. The new rosters are coming in because the attorney general advised that the old rosters were a breach of minimum working conditions under EU law.


  • #237
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    44leto wrote: »
    What is it anyway, why have they the right to receive rent allowance. I really don't understand why?

    Every Garda regardless of position receives rent allowance. It has nothing to do with renting or where your stationed.


    Any Garda care to comment on your allowance for going to the scene of the crime? Isn't this a fundamental aspect of your job?


    Or any female soldiers care to comment on the underwear allowance you receive?


    Source Today with Pat Kenny on rat radio 1 25/04/2012.


  • #238
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    micropig wrote: »
    Every Garda regardless of position receives rent allowance. It has nothing to do with renting or where your stationed.


    Any Garda care to comment on your allowance for going to the scene of the crime? Isn't this a fundamental aspect of your job?


    Or any female soldiers care to comment on the underwear allowance you receive?


    Source Today with Pat Kenny on rat radio 1 25/04/2012.

    There's no allowance for going to scenes of crime.

    As to the underwear allowance. How about you ask you girlfriend or mammy what extra items they might need if camping for a weekend during their period. You might also ask them wether their usual bra would be sufficient for intense military exercises. It's quite sad you have to learn these things on the internet you know.


  • #239
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    MagicSean wrote: »
    There's no allowance for going to scenes of crime.
    Not according to the lady on Pat Kenny this morning, have alisten, you might me missing out on that payout

    MagicSean wrote: »
    As to the underwear allowance. How about you ask you girlfriend or mammy what extra items they might need if camping for a weekend during their period. You might also ask them wether their usual bra would be sufficient for intense military exercises. It's quite sad you have to learn these things on the internet you know.


    :pac::pac::pac:
    Do they get special military tampons?


    What's quite sad is you think other women don't get periods:pac:


  • #240
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    micropig wrote: »
    Not according to the lady on Pat Kenny this morning, have alisten, you might me missing out on that payout

    He was wrong.
    micropig wrote: »
    Do they get special military tampons?
    What's quite sad is you think other women don't get periods:pac:

    Other women can go to the shop . The basic fact is that women in the army have certain requirements that men don't so this allowance would put them on an even footing with their male counterprts.


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  • #241
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    MagicSean wrote: »
    He was wrong.

    Lady does not = he, detective skills fail
    MagicSean wrote: »
    Other women can go to the shop . The basic fact is that women in the army have certain requirements that men don't so this allowance would put them on an even footing with their male counterprts.

    For underwear and night time garments - this is what the allowance is for

    Supply them with mooncups


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