This weeks Classic Irish bargains that i'm not buying

Big Nasty · 20-04-2012 11:21am

Didihno wrote: »

Hi all,
First time posting in this neck of the woods.
I have always been a Mustang lover.
Nothing quite gets me going like one, for some reason.
But I do like all classic cars and will always stop if I can for a snoop!

I'm sure its been seen already but I saw no posts about this one:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3177299
An unusual kit for a 68 Mustang, I'm not sure about it at all, but for €6,500 its a decent start.
Anyone know anything about this?
D

That's one fugly Mustang and has been for sale for ever! Seller must have photoshopped the pics to make it look shiney but the end result makes it look like a toy car. It's a coupe not a fastback and if I remember right it's a striaght 6 not a V8. On the plus side it is manual. It's been for sale for so long on and off the last few years that I would suspect there's a terminal issue with it. For that sort of money you would be better off looking for a Camaro / Firebird.

gears · 20-04-2012 11:50am

2cv wrote: »

This guy really needs to stop smoking weed

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3245126

Something tells me this car isn't exactly in Laois. Phone "Attila" with the Hungarian reg Lada..... Spam me thinks.

Didihno · 20-04-2012 12:42pm

MCMLXXV wrote: »

That's one fgly Mustang and has been for sale for ever! Seller must have photoshopped the pics to make it look shiney but the end result makes it look like a toy car. It's a coupe not a fastback and if I remember right it's a striaght 6 not a V8. On the plus side it is manual. It's been for sale for so long on and off the last few years that I would suspect there's a terminal issue with it. For that sort of money you would be better off looking for a Camaro / Firebird.

Thanks for that!
I have seen a couple of really nice camaro's online recently, but for me, its Mustang all the way!

I suppose its all a pipe dream though, because I have no garage to store anything in. How do classic owners without garages do that?
I live near the sea too, North Co. Dublin.

Saab Ed · 20-04-2012 1:19pm

RoverJames wrote: »

Here's a quirk in the rules. Because it has less than 6k up on the clock, the revenue will consider it a new car and charge VRT accordingly. That thing could cost thousands to bring in here.

Just did the exercise. VRT is only €4,619 .....yup you've read that right.

Big Nasty · 20-04-2012 1:33pm

Didihno wrote: »

Thanks for that!
I have seen a couple of really nice camaro's online recently, but for me, its Mustang all the way!

I suppose its all a pipe dream though, because I have no garage to store anything in. How do classic owners without garages do that?
I live near the sea too, North Co. Dublin.

I was in the same boat - wanted a FB but wouldn't settle for a coupe, ended up with a Trans Am. The GM's are great little cars, easy to work on and fairly reliable. You could always invest in a Carcoon.

kiki · 20-04-2012 1:34pm

2cv wrote: »

This guy really needs to stop smoking weed

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3245126

Just a question - Is front grill really blocked ? - how would radiator work ?

Carazy · 20-04-2012 1:53pm

gears wrote: »

Something tells me this car isn't exactly in Laois. Phone "Attila" with the Hungarian reg Lada..... Spam me thinks.

Maybe a friend of Raivis
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3256233

hi5 · 20-04-2012 2:05pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

Here's a quirk in the rules. Because it has less than 6k up on the clock, the revenue will consider it a new car and charge VRT accordingly. That thing could cost thousands to bring in here.

Just did the exercise. VRT is only €4,619 .....yup you've read that right.

Isn't it date of first registration or manufacture.
I've had two vehicles registered on date of manufacture rather than first registered date,but that was with the old system in the local coco office.
I dont know what the NCT are doing,it should be the same.

Saab Ed · 20-04-2012 2:10pm

hi5 wrote: »

Isn't it date of first registration or manufacture.
I've had two vehicles registered on date of manufacture rather than first registered date,but that was with the old system in the local coco office.
I dont know what the NCT are doing,it should be the same.

Yes you're right but just go to the VRT calculator and input 92 miles to see what happens. Revenue treat it like a new car.

carchaeologist · 20-04-2012 2:20pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

Yes you're right but just go to the VRT calculator and input 92 miles to see what happens. Revenue treat it like a new car.

Id be bringing the clocks out of an old MKV with me on the plane....
Another example of how retarded our system is over here.

Saab Ed · 20-04-2012 2:57pm

Looking plenty for it but worth a look to the true fan. Not many left now ....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3266549

Capri · 20-04-2012 3:27pm

All the 'true Fiat fans' have been locked up in Portrane and the keys thrown away

I can see rust bubbling on the rear pillar - if you MUST have one , give him E100, fly to Turkey, Egypt or Etiopia and bring back a rust free shell

Holland car sold in Etiophia since 2009 -

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/102/docc1uc7.jpg/sr=1

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3054/docc3vz5.jpg

or Tofas Fiat Turkey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tofas_Sahin

Egypt

http://degriottier.free.fr/nasr_sahin_1600_sl.jpg

Capri · 20-04-2012 3:36pm

ORIGINAL IRISH reg, AND whitewalls :rolleyes:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3266025

Capri · 20-04-2012 3:42pm

kiki wrote: »

Just a question - Is front grill really blocked ? - how would radiator work ?

Atilla the Nun ???

:D

Do these East Europeans think that we're that stupid ?:cool:

davoxx · 20-04-2012 3:44pm

Capri wrote: »

ORIGINAL IRISH reg, AND whitewalls :rolleyes:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3266025

surely that is worth saving?

WDB123 · 20-04-2012 3:46pm

Capri wrote: »

Atilla the Nun ??? :D

Do these East Europeans than we're that stupid ?:cool:

maybe its the spelling that sends that message

:D:rolleyes:;)

carchaeologist · 20-04-2012 3:51pm

Capri wrote: »

ORIGINAL IRISH reg, AND whitewalls :rolleyes:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3266025

Pity to scrap that unless it's a total pig.

Capri · 20-04-2012 4:02pm

davoxx wrote: »

surely that is worth saving?

Start here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W111

http://www.pkwverkauf24.de/index.php?s=w111&min=&max=&submit=Suchen

http://www.mercedes-benz-classic.com/content/classic/mpc/mpc_classic_website/en/mpc_home/mbc/home/magazin/classic_magazine.html

http://www.mercedes-fans.de/tuning/tuning_artikel/mercedes-benz_gebrauchtteile_center_schickt_drei_e-klasse_kombis_in_die_wueste_/id=3781

http://www.mercedes-benz-classic.com/content/classic/mpc/mpc_classic_website/en/mpc_home/mbc/home/classic/classic_center.html

http://www.oldtimer.net/oldtimerverzeichnis/ersatzteile-oldtimer-teile-3.html

Capri · 20-04-2012 4:09pm

Didihno wrote: »

Hi all,
First time posting in this neck of the woods.
I have always been a Mustang lover.
Nothing quite gets me going like one, for some reason.
But I do like all classic cars and will always stop if I can for a snoop!

I'm sure its been seen already but I saw no posts about this one:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3177299
An unusual kit for a 68 Mustang, I'm not sure about it at all, but for €6,500 its a decent start.
Anyone know anything about this?
D

CLEAN ones -

In DUBLIN, CALIFORNIA !!!
http://www.autotraderclassics.com/classic-car/1968-Ford-Mustang-708306.xhtml?conversationId=52118

http://www.autotraderclassics.com/find/vehicle/vehicleSearchResults.xhtml?conversationId=52118&firstRecord=1&numRecords=25&distance=1000&address=90210&startYear=1965&endYear=1968&minPrice=&maxPrice=&make=Ford&model=Mustang&keywords=&refined=true

http://www.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?id=210748937

http://www.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?id=207388841

http://store.sportscarmarket.com/1964_66_Ford_Mustang_p/bg-frd-002.htm

http://www.autotraderclassics.com/subscriptions/index.xhtml?page=buyersguides

Blue850 · 20-04-2012 6:35pm

Capri wrote: »

ORIGINAL IRISH reg, AND whitewalls :rolleyes:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3266025

He's also breaking this W115, unusual late reg, Mercedes stopped making them in 76

Esel · 21-04-2012 1:22am

RoverJames wrote: »

chuckle chuckle....

"this seems an bit off an con too me as 39 killometres seems an little bit excessive for delivery mileage and how can it be considered new when its parts are so old. i cant see how this would be road worthy and any one considering buying it needs too think about that - Sue Previsor, Doncaster, 20/4/2012 9:39 +++++++++ First of all, that's 22 miles and that includes the mileage within the factory driving it from the production line to the test area, transporter and into the show room. A car can knock up 10 miles being moved around before it even gets to the showroom. 22 miles is less than one return trip to work and back in most normal peoples' world. Second, you clearly have no idea what "road worthy" means.Honestly. Every time you post a comment on an internet forum all you do is broadcast to the world how thick you are. I wonder why do you bother. We already know."
- Original Ray, Liverpool, 20/4/2012 09:49

Oh Ray !!!

Ray is embarassing himself here, as the odometer shoes 92 miles, and the tripmeter shows 39 (miles also). I presume this has been pointed out to him in a later comment on that page - I didn't check.

Esel · 21-04-2012 1:28am

Saab Ed wrote: »

Here's a quirk in the rules. Because it has less than 6k up on the clock, the revenue will consider it a new car and charge VRT accordingly.

Did you mean to say that VAT will be applied?

Esel · 21-04-2012 1:30am

Capri wrote: »

ORIGINAL IRISH reg, AND whitewalls :rolleyes:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3266025

Presume that's Rory who used to be in Glasnevin Industrial Estate? He must have the biggest M-B graveyard in the country.

Capri · 21-04-2012 4:45am

Blue850 wrote: »

He's also breaking this W115, unusual late reg, Mercedes stopped making them in 76

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W114

Came across an 00 reg W210 one day but it looked identical to my 97 W210, checked chassis no with MB dealer. This 97 had been lying unsold in Ireland, was moved to UK and sold eventually in 2000 with 2000 UK reg, then it came back to IRL as an import but got 00 reg here. Always check the chassis no !

Capri · 21-04-2012 4:47am

Esel wrote: »

Presume that's Rory who used to be in Glasnevin Industrial Estate? He must have the biggest M-B graveyard in the country.

Out in Ashbourne now ? Went out one time but Alsatian and East European dog put me off going in :mad:

Capri · 21-04-2012 10:42am

Just checking a Merc 280E 81 on the Revenue website - OMSP (OpenMarketSellingPrice )

Breakdown of VRT Calculation
Open Market Selling Price (OMSP) determined by Revenue
€56830 :eek:
Monthly adjustment
N/A
Depreciation code allocated by Revenue
F2
Odometer reading
110000 Miles

and

Vehicle Details
Statistical Code
40587434
Model
280
Make
MERCEDES-BENZ
Version
E W124 24V 04DR A

It's no wonder there's no tax being collected !!!!!!

hi5 · 21-04-2012 5:55pm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3270954

Sam Russell · 21-04-2012 7:47pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

Here's a quirk in the rules. Because it has less than 6k up on the clock, the revenue will consider it a new car and charge VRT accordingly. That thing could cost thousands to bring in here.

Just did the exercise. VRT is only €4,619 .....yup you've read that right.

There is another quirk. It is not registered, and our rules require it to be 30 years since first registration. The UK use manufacture date.

Saab Ed · 21-04-2012 9:58pm

Its near enough worth the asking in scrap value. Gotta be worth a punt to someone .....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3272691

Capri · 22-04-2012 7:10am

Sam Russell wrote: »

There is another quirk. It is not registered, and our rules require it to be 30 years since first registration. The UK use manufacture date.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3269730

;)

B1gft · 22-04-2012 7:47am

hi5 wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3270954

Chasing Classic cars last week the guy had one of these for sale, not convertible and an earlier modal. I know he was disappointed at the price he got at auction, but I think it was around 35k. That would make this price look good?

B1gft · 22-04-2012 7:50am

Saab Ed wrote: »

Its near enough worth the asking in scrap value. Gotta be worth a punt to someone .....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3272691

I would have loved that. Did Morris make those pick ups, or were they conversions.

hi5 · 22-04-2012 9:58am

^^ They did make pickups, but thats not one.
Thats chopped down from a Traveller I'd say.

MrFoxman360 · 22-04-2012 10:00am

Saab Ed wrote: »

Its near enough worth the asking in scrap value. Gotta be worth a punt to someone .....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3272691

It sold more or less instantly, priced too low, but someone got a bargain, or so it would seem from the pics, lets hope its going to a good home, not for squishing:eek:

Capri · 22-04-2012 10:04am

hi5 wrote: »

^^ They did make pickups, but thats not one.
Thats chopped down from a Traveller I'd say.

Chopped Traveller and pukey respray = don't touch:mad:

Capri · 22-04-2012 10:11am

Anybody remember / know where the black 'FBI look' c79 Ford LTD from the US embassy went to ?

http://www.autotraderclassics.com/classic-car/1971-Ford-LTD-414056.xhtml?conversationId=52118

http://www.dvap.com/survivors/SearchForm?MakeID=&ModelID=&Year=&DVID=&CarPartHolderID=15&SecurityID=1494163310&action_doSearch=Search ????

Saab Ed · 22-04-2012 9:59pm

As a rare as rocking horse sh!t ......

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3276225

Im not sure but I think this is worth even more on the mainland

aujopimur · 22-04-2012 10:36pm

Sam Russell wrote: »

There is another quirk. It is not registered, and our rules require it to be 30 years since first registration. The UK use manufacture date.

About 10 yrs ago a similar situation arose with an unregistered Irish car,
The conversation went somthing like this.
VRT inspector "what's the mileage ?".
Car owner "85mls"
VRT man "85.000mls."
Car owner" 85mls".
VRT man "85.000mls"
Car owner "no it's 85mls".
VRT man "You're not listening to me, 85.000mls".
Car owner "Oh I get you, 85.000mls."
VRT man "That'll be €50 please

Capri · 23-04-2012 4:39am

aujopimur wrote: »

About 10 yrs ago a similar situation arose with an unregistered Irish car,
The conversation went somthing like this.
VRT inspector "what's the mileage ?".
Car owner "85mls"
VRT man "85.000mls."
Car owner" 85mls".
VRT man "85.000mls"
Car owner "no it's 85mls".
VRT man "You're not listening to me, 85.000mls".
Car owner "Oh I get you, 85.000mls."
VRT man "That'll be €50 please

Sounds like a decent VRT man , one of a dying breed

PulpitNeil · 23-04-2012 1:17pm

Capri wrote: »

Chopped Traveller and pukey respray = don't touch:mad:

+1

The wood on a Traveller is structural. Any chopped one is going to be seriously weakened. Hope it was bought as a donor car!

Marlow · 23-04-2012 1:45pm

RoverJames wrote: »

First of all, that's 22 miles and that includes the mileage within the factory driving it from the production line to the test area, transporter and into the show room. A car can knock up 10 miles being moved around before it even gets to the showroom. 22 miles is less than one return trip to work and back in most normal peoples' world.

Actually. That's not even delivery milage. The car wasn't driven at all. It has been "rolled" the distance. As the article says, the car was delivered without ever have had fluids in it.

Capri wrote: »

CLEAN ones -

In DUBLIN, CALIFORNIA !!!
http://www.autotraderclassics.com/classic-car/1968-Ford-Mustang-708306.xhtml?conversationId=52118

Haha. I used to live just around the corner from that place (in Pleasanton). I'd be over every 2nd weekend or so to wander around the showroom. It's always filled with stunning machinery.

/M

bbsrs · 24-04-2012 10:55pm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3283156 terrible ad

Esel · 25-04-2012 12:13am

bbsrs wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3283156 terrible ad

and it says (of pic)

Very similar to example photo above just need a restoration.

bbsrs · 25-04-2012 11:40am

Esel wrote: »

bbsrs wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3283156 terrible ad

and it says (of pic)

Very similar to example photo above just need a restoration.

And they are worth up to £10000 so he asks €4000 which you can spend 8k on to restore . Well if that's a good idea maybe buying one for 10 k now and saving yourself endless headaches and searching for parts is a much better idea.

galwaytt · 25-04-2012 12:03pm

bbsrs wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3283156 terrible ad

..." just needs a restoration " .....lol, under-statement of the week/year/millenium.

galwaytt · 25-04-2012 12:11pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

As a rare as rocking horse sh!t ......

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3276225

Im not sure but I think this is worth even more on the mainland

....holy crap Batman, I used to fix those, 20 years ago !! "Rare" is not the word. "Sh!t", though, may be the perfect one ! !

Major engine fubar's, those have: from memory, one belt drives everything, and when it goes, she blows !! The mod is a change to introduce a 2nd belt and duplex pullies, to drive the auxiliaries, and leave the other belt to do the motor only.

And, it only runs 'ok'. Mmmmm......it's a big flat 4, you know, and parts don't grow on trees for them. Super squishy big old-fashioned Italian Job though !

RobAMerc · 25-04-2012 12:50pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

As a rare as rocking horse sh!t ......

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3276225

Im not sure but I think this is worth even more on the mainland

There was a very clean looking one of these on DD in Kildare a while back looking for about 3k from memory. Looked immaculate and more importantly original.
I did some research on them before and it seems full lock could induce a cam belt snap !

Hermy · 25-04-2012 12:57pm

galwaytt wrote: »

...from memory, one belt drives everything, and when it goes, she blows !!

RobAMerc wrote: »

I did some research on them before and it seems full lock could induce a cam belt snap !

Scary car.:eek:

Paparazzo · 25-04-2012 1:04pm

any sensible offers would be considered.above 1000 euro
Not bad:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3078797

Paparazzo · 25-04-2012 1:11pm

bbsrs wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3283156 terrible ad

That ad is actually annoying me. Any car, especially ones in need of restoration needs a picture.
And no need to tell us what a mint one costs in england.
"Serious enquires only". This guy is serious, so he doesn't put the milage, the year or a picture, or elaborate at all on restoration :rolleyes:
Might make nusance calls to him the ad is so bad.

This weeks Classic Irish bargains that i'm not buying

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