Should horse racing be banned?

Felexicon · 17-04-2012 09:54AM

Worztron wrote: »

An emphatic YES.

People that bet on horse racing are validating animal cruelty.

How do you come to this conclusion?
What experience to you have with horses?

Worztron · 17-04-2012 09:57AM

Felexicon wrote: »

How do you come to this conclusion?
What experience to you have with horses?

Numerous horses have been put down because of this poxy snobbish "sport". The bookmakers and rich toffs always come out as the only big winners.

wonderfulname · 17-04-2012 10:16AM

Worztron wrote: »

Numerous horses have been put down because of this poxy snobbish "sport". The bookmakers and rich toffs always come out as the only big winners.

Read the bloody thread, you might learn something.

Worztron · 17-04-2012 10:18AM

wonderfulname wrote: »

Read the bloody thread, you might learn something.

Numerous horse were put down in recent big events. Stop ignoring the facts! :mad:

wonderfulname · 17-04-2012 10:23AM

Worztron wrote: »

Numerous horse were put down in recent big events. Stop ignoring the facts! :mad:

The "facts" are less than 1% are, and those horses are cared for better than any other animals in this country. Bloody humans, always freaking out at individual instances of things without first assessing frequency.

mikemac1 · 17-04-2012 10:28AM

You can't ban sulkie racing on the dual carraigeway outside Galway,

It's their culture

OP, you are a bigot, shame on you :mad:

calfmuscle · 17-04-2012 10:36AM

Ban keeping dogs as pets, anyone who owns a dog is commiting animal cruelty!:mad::mad::mad:

***I may not actually mean this***

kincsem · 17-04-2012 10:47AM

Worztron wrote: »

An emphatic YES.
People that bet on horse racing are validating animal cruelty.

I bet on horseracing.
I wear leather shoes.
I eat fish.
I eat chicken.
I do not eat red meat.
I have a leather jacket.
I do not have a leather handbag.
I have a leather bicycle saddle.
I drink milk. (cow)

How about you?

What is cruel about horseracing? I went on a 22km cycle this morning, and I suffered a lot as I had not been out on the bike for four months. My choice. If I was made to cycle 22 kms would that be cruelty? It took an hour.

Horses race from 1 minute (5 furlongs) to 9 minutes (4m 4f Grand National). In the early days of racing all flat races were 4 miles. The longest flat race now is 2m 4f, and most are 1m 4f or shorter (about 2 mins 30 secs). The whips are soft and cushioned.

I assume you do know that horses are trained, and brought on gradually until they are in shape to race? Most races are less than two minutes.

You just give an opinion, no facts.

2ndcoming · 17-04-2012 10:50AM

The thoroughbred RACEhorse was and is bred purely for racing. The clue is in the name. In the same way that the Aberdeen Angus cow was bred for beef production. Without horseracing there would be no thoroughbred racehorses, it's that simple, and if the horses don't enjoy racing then why do we always see riderless horses continuing on around the track on their own?

Every year at Grand National time you get the same few coming out blowing about an industry that they know little to nothing about and it drives me nuts.

I'm all for levelling the landing ground after Becher's and The Chair and relaxing the angle of the Canal turn but the Grand National is a fantastic spectacle and one of the most important events in the Sporting Calendar in general. If anyone is worried about the safety take a look on Youtube at the event back in the 50's or 60's, it's come a LONG way and will continue improve year on year.

Yes there are risks but that is what makes the race the most captivating and exciting in the horse racing calendar, and the fact that were it not for races like the Grand National, the horses wouldn't exist in the first place needs to be taken into account!

Discodog · 17-04-2012 10:56AM

If the racing community love their horses & don't want them to die then stop subjecting them to high risk events.

Even if no changes are made there will still be a full field for next year's National. So called caring owners get blinded by the potential glory & are willing to subject their horses to the risk.

Dyr · 17-04-2012 10:57AM

2ndcoming wrote: »

and the fact that were it not for races like the Grand National, the horses wouldn't exist in the first place needs to be taken into account!

So what? How many Destriers are knocking around these days?

Worztron · 17-04-2012 11:07AM

kincsem wrote: »

You just give an opinion, no facts.

Since when do facts (horses being destroyed) become an opinion?

ScumLord · 17-04-2012 11:09AM

Princess Peach wrote: »

The footballer chose to play the sport knowing risks, the animals aren't given a choice.

They don't need one. An animal breed to do something will want to do what it's breed to do. Work dogs want to work and problems arise when owners don't work them. Race horses want to race. Banning horse racing would be another case of, lets commit genocide to stop a few deaths.

Personally I don't know why a horse owner would risk their horse in a race that could easily kill the horse. Horses are expensive and time consuming. To throw all your money and hard work away for a few grand is idiotic.

Worztron · 17-04-2012 11:10AM

kincsem wrote: »

I bet on horseracing.

What is cruel about horseracing? I went on a 22km cycle this morning, and I suffered a lot as I had not been out on the bike for four months. My choice. If I was made to cycle 22 kms would that be cruelty? It took an hour.

Do the horses get a choice? A dumb comparison, you have made.

17-04-2012 11:18AM

Worztron wrote: »

An emphatic YES.

People that bet on horse racing are validating animal cruelty.

Your talking absolute gutter, on a subject you obviously haven't got a clue about.

I think we should ban owning cats, they are often getting run over by cars, its cruel to subject a cat to life in the city with all the dangers it faces everyday. People who own cats are validating animal cruelty.

wonderfulname · 17-04-2012 11:20AM

Worztron wrote: »

Since when do facts (horses being destroyed) become an opinion?

Since you ignored the surrounding facts and chose inflammatory wording in order to make your biased opinion seem valid.

Worztron · 17-04-2012 11:29AM

wonderfulname wrote: »

Since you ignored the surrounding facts and chose inflammatory wording in order to make your biased opinion seem valid.

It is impossible to be biased when stating a fact.

Worztron · 17-04-2012 11:32AM

Carolina Disgusting Paperback wrote: »

Your talking absolute gutter, on a subject you obviously haven't got a clue about.

I think we should ban owning cats, they are often getting run over by cars, its cruel to subject a cat to life in the city with all the dangers it faces everyday. People who own cats are validating animal cruelty.

Your?
The word is You're.

People that own cats don't put them in danger deliberately - unlike those jockey midgets.

17-04-2012 11:33AM

Worztron wrote: »

Numerous horses have been put down because of this poxy snobbish "sport".............

chuckle chuckle

You've never been to Aintree anyway :pac:

wonderfulname · 17-04-2012 11:35AM

Worztron wrote: »

It is impossible to be biased when stating a fact.

Lies and statistics...

Worztron wrote: »

People that own cats don't put them in danger deliberately - unlike those jockey midgets.

The jockey doesn't own the horse, good job proving Aitana Ancient Waistband's point.

kfallon · 17-04-2012 11:37AM

RoverJames wrote: »

chuckle chuckle

You've never been to Aintree anyway :pac:

Or seen the brawls in Newmarket members area on Guineas day :rolleyes:

ScumLord · 17-04-2012 11:40AM

Worztron wrote: »

People that own cats don't put them in danger deliberately - unlike those jockey midgets.

I would say they do put the cat in danger by keeping it in a city. Cities are dangerous places for most animals. The only option is to keep the animal imprisoned for it's entire life. I think in general people in cities shouldn't keep pets.

Worztron · 17-04-2012 11:42AM

wonderfulname wrote: »

Lies and statistics...

Do yourself a favor and look up the definition of the word fact.

goodie2shoes · 17-04-2012 11:42AM

what people do not always realize about horses is they can run quite fast, have no brakes, and are not very intelligent.:eek:

Duggys Housemate · 17-04-2012 11:44AM

Cats are killing birds, for sure.

Worztron · 17-04-2012 11:45AM

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

Cats are killing birds, for sure.

That is instinct and has nothing to do with this thread.

17-04-2012 11:46AM

Worztron wrote: »

Your?
The word is You're.

People that own cats don't put them in danger deliberately - unlike those jockey midgets.

You must be desperate to get a dig in if your correcting my grammar.

Allowing a cat to roam around a city is endangering it. How often do you hear of peoples cats that get poisoned, ran over, go missing etc etc and keeping them locked up in a house is also not exactly fun for them.

Insulting jockeys now too, some of the greatest animal lovers you could find, they do more in an hour for the well being of animals than you have in your life.

Duggys Housemate · 17-04-2012 11:46AM

Worztron wrote: »

That is instinct and has nothing to do with this thread.

Fraid not, old boy. Cats being kept as domestics are killing more birds than would other wise be killed. So cat lovers are bird killers.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/roaming-cats-kill-billion-birds-year-american-bird/story?id=13194701#.T41KAlF8PlI

Worztron · 17-04-2012 11:52AM

Carolina Disgusting Paperback wrote: »

Allowing a cat to roam around a city is endangering it. How often do you hear of peoples cats that get poisoned, ran over, go missing etc etc and keeping them locked up in a house is also not exactly fun for them.

Cats get poisoned, ran over, go missing, etc. in the countryside also. The owner cannot be blamed for none of those things. Did you ever hear of a cat flap?

Carolina Disgusting Paperback wrote: »

Insulting jockeys now too, some of the greatest animal lovers you could find, they do more in an hour for the well being of animals than you have in your life.

Don't make me laugh.

Carolina Disgusting Paperback wrote: »

they do more in an hour for the well being of animals than you have in your life.

What a load of presumptuous claptrap.

Worztron · 17-04-2012 11:57AM

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

Fraid not, old boy. Cats being kept as domestics are killing more birds than would other wise be killed. So cat lovers are bird killers.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/roaming-cats-kill-billion-birds-year-american-bird/story?id=13194701#.T41KAlF8PlI

Cats kill out of instinct. It is as simple as that.

Mark Twain: "Of all the creatures ever made man is the most detestable. Of the entire brood, he is the only one that possesses malice. He is the only creature that inflicts pain for sport, knowing it to be pain."

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