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Worst of the compensation culture

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  • #32
    foxyboxer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    Jesus could not have been from Cork.

    He fell three times and didn't claim once.


  • #33
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    There was the old story back in the nineties a Dublin Bus was involved in a nasty accident and was stopped by the side of the road.

    People came over to see what happened

    And instead of people getting off the bus, people started getting onto the bus ;)
    No CCTV on buses back then

    No idea if it's true but I think it could have happened


  • #34
    cruiser178
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭cruiser178


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Every few months or so there is outrage on Joe Duffy show that a hotel or restaurant won't warm the baby's bottle

    Lazy staff they scream. And I'm sure there are a few on boards who would join in

    The reason I've refused to do it is because I was told to by the management

    The microwaves in the kitchen are industrial type and powerful, thirty seconds in this compared to the one at home is different
    If I don't heat it enough I'll get given out to. But if I overheat it and the baby gets scalded, then boom, see ya in court
    Sure a mother is to check the heat first but I'm not taking that chance.

    And what we tried to do was let the mother into the kitchen and let her use the microwave. But she wouldn't have non-slip shoes so if she fell then that's another court case

    We had a microwave in the lobby that anyone could use but the drunks were coming back and messing with it and using it on their feed from the chipper. Get out :mad:
    So that was taken away

    What we will do is give you a bowl of hot water and leave it on your table.
    Determining the heat is then up to you.
    Sorry it has to be that way but every business must protect themselves

    I have never heard of anyone putting a child's bottle into a microwave, are there ppl out there that do this? :eek:

    I think we all know a few people who have pulled one or two stunts in their time and more luck to them if they get away with, it's not something i would do personally but i have very little sympathy for money grabbing insurance companies.


  • #35
    up for anything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,791 ✭✭✭up for anything


    It's not a recent phenomenon. Back in 1978 I knew a girl who had a fight with her boyfriend at a house party and begged this chap who was there (down from Donegal) with his girlfriend for a lift home. He didn't want to leave the girlfriend but she kept on and on at him. Eventually he gave in. On the way to her house they were involved in an accident and he died. She was injured, not seriously but sustained some facial lacerations and she thought she was god's gift, a bit like the Brick. She sued his insurance for what was a hell of a lot of money back in those days. No conscience over the fact that if she hadn't badgered him for that lift that he wouldn't have died. Silly bitch. Her entire family, mother, father, five brothers and one sister went on to claim for various things successfully. Some of them had more than one claim. They must have realised through her that it was easy money or else they were very unfortunate (which I sincerely doubt).


  • #36
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    swingking wrote: »
    It's gas just as I'm reading this post there is an ad at the bottom of the page for personal injury lawyers. Hmm.....

    There's ads at the bottom of your page? I successfully sued boards and had the ads removed from mine.


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  • #37
    Jen Pigs Fly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭Jen Pigs Fly


    So when is it alright to claim :rolleyes:


  • #38
    up for anything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,791 ✭✭✭up for anything


    cruiser178 wrote: »
    and more luck to them if they get away with, it's not something i would do personally but i have very little sympathy for money grabbing insurance companies.

    It's not the money grabbing insurance companies that suffer with these fake or enhanced claims. It's the person or business who is paying the insurance who pays down the line.


  • #39
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    cruiser178 wrote: »
    ...but i have very little sympathy for money grabbing insurance companies.
    What about everyone else, when their premiums increase?


  • #40
    foxyboxer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    If you happen to fall in town, stay down until the ambulance comes around.

    :rolleyes:


  • #41
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,992 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    xxxJennyxxx wrote: »
    So when is it alright to claim :rolleyes:

    When you suffer an injury or loss that is genuinely the fault of somebody else, and not caused by your own incompetence, negligence or trespassing.


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  • #42
    cruiser178
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭cruiser178


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    What about everyone else, when their premiums increase?

    Oh yes, yes when everyone's premiums increase i forgot about that because insurance companies work their profits out just enough to cover the scammers and then just a little bit of profit for themselves. Whether its car, home, public liability or other, insurance in this country is way over priced to say the least and its not all down to a very small percentage of scammers. Again no sympathy.


  • #43
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    up for anything wrote: »
    It's not a recent phenomenon. Back in 1978 I knew a girl who had a fight with her boyfriend at a house party and begged this chap who was there (down from Donegal) with his girlfriend for a lift home. He didn't want to leave the girlfriend but she kept on and on at him. Eventually he gave in. On the way to her house they were involved in an accident and he died. She was injured, not seriously but sustained some facial lacerations and she thought she was god's gift, a bit like the Brick. She sued his insurance for what was a hell of a lot of money back in those days. No conscience over the fact that if she hadn't badgered him for that lift that he wouldn't have died. Silly bitch. Her entire family, mother, father, five brothers and one sister went on to claim for various things successfully. Some of them had more than one claim. They must have realised through her that it was easy money or else they were very unfortunate (which I sincerely doubt).


    Just to play devil's advocate for a moment. Putting aside the tragedy of the guy dying all I read from that is:

    Woman is injured in car crash, claims against insurance of driver, wins.

    How she ended up in the car doesn't really come into it in the eyes of the law.


  • #44
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,107 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    With the advent of alot more CCTV it should make it harder for these people to sue, however i do believe there should be a new Act invented to cover these incidents, called the General Cop-On Act 2012 - It will have 1 section, which states that:

    Anyone who injures themselves or has dependants who injure themselves, through complete idiocy and/or lack of general cop-on and/or common sense, shall not be entitled to claim compensation.


  • #45
    Jen Pigs Fly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭Jen Pigs Fly


    blackwhite wrote: »
    When you suffer an injury or loss that is genuinely the fault of somebody else, and not caused by your own incompetence, negligence or trespassing.

    Grand job :D


  • #46
    The Davestator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,690 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    I was a summer camp leader years back and on our way home from Clara Lara, our coach clipped a tractor trailer. Barely even felt it. When we got back to Pearse street, there was a line of taxis waiting to take every child on the coach straight to hospital with whiplash.
    Disgusting hearing the parents coach the kids about what to say.


  • #47
    Mickey Dazzler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Mickey Dazzler


    People like that should be taken out of their homes and kicked to death in front of their families.


  • #48
    up for anything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,791 ✭✭✭up for anything


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Just to play devil's advocate for a moment. Putting aside the tragedy of the guy dying all I read from that is:

    Woman is injured in car crash, claims against insurance of driver, wins.

    How she ended up in the car doesn't really come into it in the eyes of the law.

    The law is an ass.


  • #49
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    up for anything wrote: »
    The law is an ass.

    But the girl did nothing wrong really. I mean sure she pestered the guy for a lift but she didn't cause the car crash.

    In fact if she claimed off his insurance then presumably in the eyes of the law he was at fault for the crash. Should she not claim for her injuries purely because someone else was injured fatally in the crash?

    I honestly don't see anything wrong with what she's done in how you've described it.


  • #50
    paky
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭paky


    all i hear is wha wha wha begrudge begrudge. suing is a good thing for society. it creates an incentive to punish stupid people for their incompetence.
    i was cycling in a cycle lane in town one day. a hairdressers had placed a sign in the centre of the cycle lane to advertise their premises. it was raining and i had my hood up. naturaly i couldnt see it and then wham, i went straight into it and out in front of a car. i wasnt injured but i was nearly killed.
    i never sued but from that experience i can see why some people might be inclined to sue others for their sheer disregard for the safety of others.


  • #51
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    paky wrote: »
    all i hear is wha wha wha begrudge begrudge. suing is a good thing for society. it creates an incentive to punish stupid people for their incompetence.
    i was cycling in a cycle lane in town one day. a hairdressers had placed a sign in the centre of the cycle lane to advertise their premises. it was raining and i had my hood up. naturaly i couldnt see it and then wham, i went straight into it and out in front of a car. i wasnt injured but i was nearly killed.
    i never sued but from that experience i can see why some people might be inclined to sue others for their sheer disregard for the safety of others.

    Naturally you couldn't see it? What if it had been a small child that stepped out in front of you?

    Sounds like you were cycling without watching the road ahead.

    If I was that hairdresser's sign I'd sue you. :pac:


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  • #52
    paky
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭paky


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Naturally you couldn't see it? What if it had been a small child that stepped out in front of you?

    Sounds like you were cycling without watching the road ahead.

    If I was that hairdresser's sign I'd sue you. :pac:

    if that was a small boy, his parents would be picking his body up off the cycle lane. it would've been their own fault for letting him walk into a cycle lane, same goes for a road. what the hell would you expect. how could i see ahead if it was raining?


  • #53
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    paky wrote: »
    how could i see ahead if it was raining?

    If you can't see the road ahead then you shouldn't be cycling in those conditions. That's just common sense.


  • #54
    paky
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭paky


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    If you can't see the road ahead then you shouldn't be cycling in those conditions. That's just common sense.

    no it fcukn aint, common sense would be not to put a sign in the middle of a fcuking cycle lane


  • #55
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    I strained err I mean crippled my back while picking up my laptop of the floor while I was on boards, I have a witness, who laughed and called me an idiot.

    Also the heat from the laptop on my lap may be giving a low sperm count. So I am claiming boards on the ground there are no warnings about the dangers of been on boards. So will I book my holiday to the Seychelles now or see a solicitor first. I will see what the Boards legal forum advise.


  • #56
    BBDBB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


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  • #57
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    paky wrote: »
    no it fcukn aint, common sense would be not to put a sign in the middle of a fcuking cycle lane

    Common sense would be for people not to put signs in stupid places. But common sense would also be for people to look where they're going and if the conditions prevent them from seeing what's ahead then reducing their speed or not cycling at all.

    Frankly I'm surprised you're still alive if this is your attitude to road safety.


  • #58
    token101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    paky wrote: »
    if that was a small boy, his parents would be picking his body up off the cycle lane. it would've been their own fault for letting him walk into a cycle lane, same goes for a road. what the hell would you expect. how could i see ahead if it was raining?

    So you want to sue people for their stupidity, because you were cycling in the rain and couldn't see ahead? And you're telling us that you were cycling thinking that if someone stepped out, they'd be killed? Might have been a badly placed sign, but you're the f***ing hazard here!


  • #59
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Pompey Magnus wrote: »
    I got a graduate job working for a city council a few years ago and while I was there a cyclist was taking the council to court after riding into a temporary road sign which was warning about road works ahead. He was suing on the grounds that there was no warning given that there was going to be a temporary road sign ahead (presumably if there was a warning sign given then the council then would also have needed to place another sign warning about the first warning sign ahead etc etc etc).

    I never found out how the case worked out but it wouldn't surpise me if he won

    Was this sign blocking the bicycle path perchance?
    It is frequently the case where the Council block bicycle paths with signs warning motorists exclusively of upcoming roadworks. Cyclists have to use the path but cannot if the council block it with signs. There should be a warning sign for cyclists informing them the path is closed. :cool:


  • #60
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Originally Posted by Pompey Magnus
    I got a graduate job working for a city council a few years ago and while I was there a cyclist was taking the council to court after riding into a temporary road sign which was warning about road works ahead. He was suing on the grounds that there was no warning given that there was going to be a temporary road sign ahead (presumably if there was a warning sign given then the council then would also have needed to place another sign warning about the first warning sign ahead etc etc etc).

    I never found out how the case worked out but it wouldn't surpise me if he won

    LOL
    That reminds me of "Only fools and horses" when Trigger banged his head of a "mind your head sign", he sued his old school for not been able to read.


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  • #61
    paky
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭paky


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Common sense would be for people not to put signs in stupid places.

    i totally agree but you also must take into account the degree in which it rains in this country. if everybody had to disengage from using his/her bicycle once it rained then i would think it would defeat the purpose in cycling in this country.


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