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Drink-Driver endangering others is beaten to death

  • 16-04-2012 09:40PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Dan133269


    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/court-hears-motorist-looked-possessed-as-he-killed-drinkdriver-in-road-rage-attack-3082059.html
    Mr Bates's widow Brenda wept in court as it emerged her husband had drunk up to 10 pints of Guinness in a pub before getting behind the wheel of his Mitsubishi Pajero and tailgating and flashing Donohoe, who was travelling with his 18-month-old daughter.

    Witnesses said Donohoe stopped in Irishtown, where both drivers got out of their cars and had an argument on the street, with Mr Bates shouting: "Don't be breaking like a f***ing fanny, just drive your f**king car."

    Shortly afterwards Mr Bates overtook Donohoe's Toyota Rav 4 and mounted a central island before cutting in on the Dublin man, who later claimed he feared he was going to be rammed off the road.

    The court was told Donohoe took a hurley stick from the boot of his car and hit the Mitsubishi Pajero as it blocked his path, and then hit Mr Bates several times when he got out of the car, including a fatal blow to the left temple as he lay defenceless on the ground.

    So, what thinks ye? did he get what he deserved? difficult to have much sympathy for this "victim" I think. Here's the funny bit.
    In a statement Mr Bates's brother Gary said the dead man should be remembered as a hard-working man with strong moral values.

    "He had respect for law and order ... never a man of violence," he added.


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Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭MickySticks


    Nobody deserves to be beaten to death no matter what they've done.






    *Except Justin Bieber


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    Did he get what he deserved?
    What he deserved was fines, jail and his license revoked, not his head caved in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    They both sound like tossers, but he didn't deserve to die for it


  • Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This is why it's best to avoid confrontation on the road. It can escalate and you never know what nutter is going to pull a hurley or tyre iron from the boot.

    What the killer should have done is just pull over and let yer man off. Then get on the phone to the guards and tell them where he is and what direction he's heading.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    mister bates, stop! it you're killing me...how ironic


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭MickySticks


    :D
    Don't be breaking like a f***ing fanny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,572 ✭✭✭Canard


    He didnt deserve to die but seriously, **** drink-drivers. Scum of the earth.


  • Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    :D

    "breaking"... breaking what exactly, wind?

    Fcuckin Indo.


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Johnathan Rapid Luggage


    Does nobody in the Indo know how to spell? Seriously?

    Anyway no of course he didn't deserve to die - he deserved to lose his licence, fines, etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 609 ✭✭✭Dubit10


    Drink drivers are scum. What goes around comes around.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,106 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    Why did he need to hit him in the head when he was lying on the ground?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭Alias G


    OP, I really don't think you should be implying that the dead man possibly got what he deserved. Ireland is a small country and Boards is a popular forum and member of the deceased family could easily come across this thread. Have a go at his drink driving by all means...its indefensible, but suggesting he got what he deserved is a little insensitive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 409 ✭✭john reilly


    would like to hear the dead mans version of the story


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Dan133269 wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/court-hears-motorist-looked-possessed-as-he-killed-drinkdriver-in-road-rage-attack-3082059.html



    So, what thinks ye? did he get what he deserved? difficult to have much sympathy for this "victim" I think. Here's the funny bit.

    Why did you put victim in quotes? Was he not the victim of a crime in your eyes?

    He shouldn't have been drink-driving obviously, but it's stupid to say that he got what he deserved. Was he a greater threat to society than the lad who reacted so violently to the situation?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 409 ✭✭john reilly


    why had he got a hurley stick in the car. sounds like intent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,732 ✭✭✭scamalert


    beating him up then calling the guards(yes),and i suppose the guy wasn't intending to kill him,but thats for the court to decide.as yes the guy could of pulled over and let him pass,but lets say if he then crashed into someone else and killed someones family.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Gee Bag


    why had he got a hurley stick in the car. sounds like intent

    Or maybe he just played hurling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    Dubit10 wrote: »
    Drink drivers are scum. What goes around comes around.
    would like to hear the dead mans version of the story
    why had he got a hurley stick in the car. sounds like intent

    Are these jokes?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭MickySticks


    Dubit10 wrote: »
    Drink drivers are scum. What goes around comes around.

    But he didn't kill anybody. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,791 ✭✭✭up for anything


    In my opinion anyone getting in a car to drive it after drinking should be automatically found guilty of attempted murder if caught as well as of drink driving.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭MickySticks


    In my opinion anyone getting in a car to drive it after drinking should be automatically found guilty of attempted murder if caught as well as of drink driving.
    Jesus :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Pretty crazy case.

    Don't **** with another persons child tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 409 ✭✭john reilly


    In my opinion anyone getting in a car to drive it after drinking should be automatically found guilty of attempted murder if caught as well as of drink driving.
    a lot of fatal accidents dont involve drink driving can we then assume anybody driving a car should be convicted of attempted murder


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Gee Bag


    In my opinion anyone getting in a car to drive it after drinking should be automatically found guilty of attempted murder if caught as well as of drink driving.

    That would be a legal impossibility, to commit murder you have to intentionally set out to kill someone.

    I think you might mean manslaughter, if so do you really think it would be practical or fair to imprison every drink driver for 4-12 years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Kevwoody


    Lads I can't say the man got what he deserved, but you can't help but feel sorry for the other fella.

    He had his 18month old child in the car and seeing a pajero on your bumper with a drunk behind the wheel would make anyone snap.

    He then overtook him and blocked him in, so I can't say I have a lot of sympathy for him.

    The other guy has to live with this for the rest of his life, he's the one I feel sorry for


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭CageWager


    I'm sorry the guy got killed, to bash someones head in with a stick is a bit OTT for tailgating but anyone who drinks 10 pints and gets into a jeep to drive home has significant potential to take the life of an innocent road user or pedestrian. Maybe this story can make some drink drivers wake up and realise that its not on any more..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    What he deserved was fines, jail and his license revoked, not his head caved in.

    Yes, just as Eddie Halvey got.

    Oh wait.......

    :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 409 ✭✭john reilly


    Kevwoody wrote: »
    Lads I can't say the man got what he deserved, but you can't help but feel sorry for the other fella.

    He had his 18month old child in the car and seeing a pajero on your bumper with a drunk behind the wheel would make anyone snap.

    He then overtook him and blocked him in, so I can't say I have a lot of sympathy for him.

    The other guy has to live with this for the rest of his life, he's the one I feel sorry for
    poor excuse if he was worried about his child he should have pulled in and let the other driver **** off. not get out and confront him then kill him and he wont be much good to his child in jail


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Gee Bag wrote: »
    That would be a legal impossibility, to commit murder you have to intentionally set out to kill someone.

    I think you might mean manslaughter, if so do you really think it would be practical or fair to imprison every drink driver for 4-12 years?

    You could just leave them on a little island somewhere. No need to run up a big prison services bill.

    Just let them die or Lord of the Flies their way into the future.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Gee Bag


    You could just leave them on a little island somewhere. No need to run up a big prison services bill.

    Just let them die or Lord of the Flies their way into the future.

    They already are on a little island!


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