Imist - liquid in the mouth?

Mcnage01 · 03-04-2012 8:01pm #1

Hi Folks

After doing a bit of boards research i decided to invest in an imist.

Although we've started off on the wrong foot maybe.

Every second or 3rd pull results in some of the liquid getting into my mouth, not sure if im doing something wrong?

Sorry, probably a really noob question but its hard to find the answer.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 03-04-2012 8:08pm

dont use an imist or any of those sort of tank systems so i dont know if these is even helpful but

are you filling the tanks all the way up? afaik you're supposed to only fill them to 75% or something, leaving a bit of emptiness at the top

Mcnage01 · 03-04-2012 8:11pm

Thanks for the reply

Yeah i only filled it roughly 3/4's. Migh try 2/3rds and see if it makes a difference

Hunter Mahan · 03-04-2012 8:17pm

Also its important not to pull too hard, its a slightly different pull to a cigarette. Not as hard and a bit longer.
Again I never had an imist system, but I assume its similar to an ego tank which I had.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 03-04-2012 8:18pm

dunno then

a few people here use the imist or similar tanks so im sure someone else will be along to answer shortly

Hunter Mahan · 03-04-2012 8:25pm

I'd bet money it's the pull, if he's only filling 3/4

Mcnage01 · 03-04-2012 8:38pm

Thanks gents, yeah could well be me pulling too hard on it.. i'll bare this in mind next time im using it.

Stefan_Cork · 03-04-2012 8:41pm

hi,

i got an imist and always fill to max, never a problem with juice in mouth.
Only happens to me when 1. cartridge(mini tank) wears out after a while
or 2. when tank/cart not pushed in fully.
Might as well a faulty cartridge or you kinda worn the top a bit, chewing on it etc.

They have a very light and nice pull anyways so it be hard to pull/suck on it too hard in my opinion

Green Hornet · 03-04-2012 8:44pm

Hunter Mahan wrote: »

I'd bet money it's the pull, if he's only filling 3/4

Still hard to see how he could pull all the way through the atty and up the cone through the mouthpiece? That would require nearly sucking all the juice from the tank. There'd be no vapour either due to flooding.

Wonder is it condensation building up in the chamber below the mouthpiece?

I always remove those 2 baffles. The vapour is warmer and requires less of a draw.

Try taking out the flat piece at the tip where the hole is with a paper clip. There's another one inside that too. That chamber holds condensation sometimes.

newmark · 03-04-2012 8:47pm

Mcnage01 wrote: »

Thanks gents, yeah could well be me pulling too hard on it.. i'll bare this in mind next time im using it.

Maybe also change the tank and start fresh with a new one.

There is a little plastic piece that will pop out right at the end of the filter part, you can also clean that with tissue and pop the plastic bit back in, condensation may have built up there. I usually pop it out with my teeth its easier to get off but have tissue ready in case you get a bit of eliquid in your mouth as it tastes horrible.

When you first put on the tank to the atomiser twist it around 4 times also this helps the juice to flow through to the wick and might stop it getting airlocked later.

And like the lads said don't pull too hard on it but also take longer pulls than a cigarette you will soon get the feel for it.

newmark · 03-04-2012 8:48pm

Green Hornet wrote: »

Still hard to see how he could pull all the way through the atty and up the cone through the mouthpiece? That would require nearly sucking all the juice from the tank. There'd be no vapour either due to flooding.

Wonder is it condensation building up in the chamber below the mouthpiece?

I always remove those 2 baffles. The vapour is warmer and requires less of a draw.

Try taking out the flat piece at the tip where the hole is with a paper clip. There's another one inside that too. That chamber holds condensation sometimes.

Ur thinking exactly the same lines as me

Mcnage01 · 03-04-2012 9:11pm

I dont think it was wear & tear cause it was the first time i used it!

I'll keep what you've all said in mind when im trying it again this weekend and ill report back then! (only smoke/vape when drinking/about to start drinking

Stained Class · 04-04-2012 10:07pm

I've got my imist about a week now & get the same problem sometimes.

The liquid leaks down into the battery compartment sometimes & gets drawn back up the system thru the mouthpiece, giving a nasty taste.

I sometimes blow it out with an airline.

Changed the cartrige this evening & no probs now.

How long are they meant to last anyway?

Neil_Sedaka · 05-04-2012 9:17am

Mine last for weeks.
Just need to wash them under a hot running tap from time to time and let them dry out.

newmark · 05-04-2012 2:10pm

Stained Class wrote: »

I've got my imist about a week now & get the same problem sometimes.

The liquid leaks down into the battery compartment sometimes & gets drawn back up the system thru the mouthpiece, giving a nasty taste.

I sometimes blow it out with an airline.

Changed the cartrige this evening & no probs now.

How long are they meant to last anyway?

This might be a stupid question now but are you putting the small rubber thing back on to the tank after filling the tank with liquid?

Stained Class · 05-04-2012 10:13pm

newmark wrote: »

This might be a stupid question now but are you putting the small rubber thing back on to the tank after filling the tank with liquid?

I never take it out when filling. I just pour the liquid straight in.

Pesky thing started leaking again today.

Stained Class · 15-04-2012 12:08am

Still this bastid thing floods itself, no matter what I do with it!:mad:

Why Im I still sucking liquid nicotine thru this device?

In all fairness this yoke works well most of the time, but I can't stand this problem with it.

Are the cartos supplied with the kit deliberetraly designed to put people off this system????:confuse

Stained Class · 16-04-2012 12:51am

Stop Press!

Not alone Biansi are seeming unable to design & manufacture a washer to prevent leakage.:rolleyes:

Also tonight one of my attys failed. 3 weeks into the usage of this system?

Unreal.

Based on this, I would't trust these people to open a packet of crisps, let alone do anything else.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 16-04-2012 10:11am

try the ego-c, a lot ofpeople here have had great experiences with it

or you could make the jump to cartomisers, dual coils or boge 2ohms.

Stefan_Cork · 16-04-2012 10:36am

yeah,

i bought dct tanks 3mls, the wee ones and popped em onto my imist battery.
I like it as it works great and saves me cleaning the yoke + lasts all day.
I just cba dripping all the time and waiting for that dry hit, tanks all the way for me...

Green Hornet · 16-04-2012 10:38am

Stefan_Cork wrote: »

yeah,

i bought dct tanks 3mls, the wee ones and popped em onto my imist battery.
I like it as it works great and saves me cleaning the yoke + lasts all day.
I just cba dripping all the time and waiting for that dry hit, tanks all the way for me...

I've the same one and it's great. Leak free and cinch to fill.

newmark · 16-04-2012 12:58pm

Stained Class wrote: »

Stop Press!

Not alone the Chineese are seeming unable to design & manufacture a washer to prevent leakage.:rolleyes:

Also tonight one of my attys failed. 3 weeks into the usage of this system?

Unreal.

Based on this, I would't trust these people to open a packet of crisps, let alone do anything else.

I had the imist myself for a while and 3 friends and family members I got a kit for use it daily on my recommendation and none of them have ever had a leaking problem with it. I also use my wifes one every day when I feel like a change of flavour to what I'm using.

So going on my own and their experiences I'm just thinking there must be something wrong with your one if your setting it up right and all that. Are you familiar with the imist tanks and the ego c tanks you weren't given the wrong tanks for it by any chance or something silly like that thats causing you problems.

Have the tanks you use got a small white rubber thing that pops off at the end of the tank and do you replace that when filling liquid in it?

Do you push the tank fully in to the atomiser?

Is the atomiser tightened properly?

Is the tank damaged at the end of it? They do get damaged fairly easy if you remove the end cap a bit.

There must be some simple explanation for your leak problems,hopefully you will get to the bottom of it because I honestly think they are a good system. But like the lads said you could try a tank on it if all else fails and at least you will get the use of the batterys then.

Neil_Sedaka · 16-04-2012 4:16pm

For what it's worth, I never, ever had any leaks from my Imist either

16-04-2012 5:21pm

Neil_Sedaka wrote: »

For what it's worth, I never, ever had any leaks from my Imist either

never had any leaks the first month or so but it leaks all the time now - going to give up on I think. my guess is that it's down to the replacement wicks that I got - they seem different to the original ones and are letting too much liquid into the atty area.

Stained Class · 16-04-2012 7:17pm

Apologies for that post last night lads.

It seems that I'm one of the unlucky ones with this system.

I was unlucky with the system I had before too(DSE-901).

Despite everything, I tried to keep faith with it, but the Atty failing was just the last straw.

E-cigs are a great idea, but I can't see myself replacing analogs with them. Not with the level of unreliability I've experianced anyway.

I know plenty on here have had better experiances & as an idea they've great potential.

I just don't it's for me.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 16-04-2012 7:29pm

http://www.thebestshop.eu/blank-cartomizers/510-xl-lr-empty-cartomiser/prod_227.html

try some of these. easy to fill, dont leak, good flavour/vapour and cheap.

or as stefan reccomended, the DCT tanks

derra · 16-04-2012 7:44pm

Stained Class wrote: »

E-cigs are a great idea, but I can't see myself replacing analogs with them. Not with the level of unreliability I've experianced anyway.

I just don't it's for me.

With the right device it could be.

Got very frustrated myself after a month or so at the beginning.
I knew the ecigs were effective but the level of unreliability as you put it was driving me spare.

If you live close to Bray, your more than welcome to try a Bulli A2 atomiser.
Works superbly with an eGo battery, very reliable, consistent and your in control on how it vapes and you can repair it by replacing the wire and wick.

Send me a PM if you wanna try it out, if you like it i will show you how to repair it etc.

Without it, i'd be back on the rollies.

Hunter Mahan · 16-04-2012 7:46pm

It's a pity you are having such troubles, it can be frustrating when crap like that happens.

If I was asked by someone looking to give up smoking then I have to admit I would no longer recommend a starter kit, like an ego or tornado. They are too fiddly and the attomizers are too unreliable.

In my opinion you have to splash the cash if you really want to succeed first time out, you need something bulletproof, reliable and easy to use. For the price of 14 boxes of smokes you would be up and running and I doubt you would ever go back on the analogues.

Based on my own experience I would recommend the following as a good starting point:

*Lavatube - Simple variable voltage sturdy machine.
*4 proper batteries - when you get proper batteries one will last a day, and having 4 of them means you only need to charge every other day.
*20 boge standard resistance cartomizers - great flavour and excellent quality.
*3 30ml bottles of a safe eliquid like RY4, at different strengths, high, medium and low - very few people dislike RY4 and experimentation can come later.
*A stainless steel arry tank - again bulletproof, no leaks ever and simple to fill
*An arry punch - even I can't f*ck it up using one of these.

Anyone of any age could use that set up without any major difficulties, and using the condom method of filling with a little blow through after, there's no need for syringes or anything either.

1 fill up in the morning, maybe a top up in the evening and away you go, no leaks, no dry hits, no fuss.

Green Hornet · 16-04-2012 7:51pm

Stained Class wrote: »

Apologies for that post last night lads.

It seems that I'm one of the unlucky ones with this system.

I was unlucky with the system I had before too(DSE-901).

Despite everything, I tried to keep faith with it, but the Atty failing was just the last straw.

E-cigs are a great idea, but I can't see myself replacing analogs with them. Not with the level of unreliability I've experianced anyway.

I know plenty on here have had better experiances & as an idea they've great potential.

I just don't it's for me.

Dont give up on it. I experienced loads of problems starting too. I wasted money on loads of junk hardware and the tank atties are something that require a lot of fiddling. I had all kinds of issues with the iMist too and thought I was the only one as well. Looks like we may have been just unlucky.

You should take a chance and buy a couple of cartomisers. Only a couple of euros each. If you like them, then buy the DCT so you only have to fill once a day or so.

Try the eGo-C either. Its only when I got the eGo-C that I started to find any joy really.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 16-04-2012 8:15pm

Hunter Mahan wrote: »

It's a pity you are having such troubles, it can be frustrating when crap like that happens.

If I was asked by someone looking to give up smoking then I have to admit I would no longer recommend a starter kit, like an ego or tornado. They are too fiddly and the attomizers are too unreliable.

In my opinion you have to splash the cash if you really want to succeed first time out, you need something bulletproof, reliable and easy to use. For the price of 14 boxes of smokes you would be up and running and I doubt you would ever go back on the analogues.

Based on my own experience I would recommend the following as a good starting point:

*Lavatube - Simple variable voltage sturdy machine.
*4 proper batteries - when you get proper batteries one will last a day, and having 4 of them means you only need to charge every other day.
*20 boge standard resistance cartomizers - great flavour and excellent quality.
*3 30ml bottles of a safe eliquid like RY4, at different strengths, high, medium and low - very few people dislike RY4 and experimentation can come later.
*A stainless steel arry tank - again bulletproof, no leaks ever and simple to fill
*An arry punch - even I can't f*ck it up using one of these.

Anyone of any age could use that set up without any major difficulties, and using the condom method of filling with a little blow through after, there's no need for syringes or anything either.

1 fill up in the morning, maybe a top up in the evening and away you go, no leaks, no dry hits, no fuss.

hrm, I definitely wouldn't reccomend a lavatube to someone who was looking to get into vaping

standard ego/carto setup for me all the way. lavatube later on if they want something a little more

16-04-2012 8:18pm

where is the best place to get boge cartos, tank + carto punch then....?
(might turn back to the carto dark side...)

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 16-04-2012 8:35pm

thebestshop have LR boge cartos
carto punch you can get the siam mods punch from safercigs, or if you look in the carto tanks thread one of the last few posts is a saddle valve from an irish ebay seller which will do the same job

the tanks themselves.. for boges i dont know if there's any from irish sites. the mini-sub tank from momandpopvapourshop or the chibi tank from parkesvaping, both US. both pretty cheap and cheap shiping too

newmark · 16-04-2012 8:36pm

glasso wrote: »

where is the best place to get boge cartos, tank + carto punch then....?
(might turn back to the carto dark side...)

If you want to try a DCT tank I have a spare one and a drip tip you can have for free, I dont have any DCT cartos left though. You would have to order a few dual coil cartos with the flange and they come prepunched, you can order them from irishvapers, e-cigshop or the bestshop.

If you liked that setup you could then go for a better tank with boge cartomisers. I find the mini-sub tank excellent with boges as it all fits very tight together and is less prone to slide off and spill juice. Its also easy to fill as you don't need to take the tank apart. There's loads of info on tanks in the cartotanks thread here.
Pm me your address if you want the tank and I'll get it off to you in the morning.

Stained Class · 17-04-2012 6:12pm

Thanks for the advice & encouragement lads.

I'd like to continue with the e-cigs alright.

I might look at those options.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 17-04-2012 6:55pm

if you want to swing by my place again I can give you a couple of cartomisers that'd work good on your bianis battery. I dont really need them any more as I dont have an ego battery and I'm loving my repairable atomiser atm so wont be using cartomisers at all for the forseeable future

Stained Class · 17-04-2012 7:39pm

That's sound of you.

I still have your number, so I might give you a shout over the weekend.

Payment in asian teenagers as per usual.:D

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 17-04-2012 8:14pm

derra · 17-04-2012 11:19pm

SC

If you don't have a genuine Ego T battery, it might be best to get one or two.

Your Biansi battery will start off at 4.2 v and will gradually drain out at around 3.4 or whatever.

So as the battery drains so will the hit and flavour as well as the carto dying out, ya don't know what's going on as your vaping. Is it the battery or carto !

A Joyetech eGo T will give you a constant 3.3v during the battery life before it needs recharging, a carto at 2 Ohms or less would give you a decent consistent hit. Till of course the carto is done and at an average of €2 a pop this could be a day,two days or even a week so ya have to be realistic in that aspect.

No need for a big 18650 Mod just yet, a good atty is much more important imo.

If your happy with cartos, stick with them for a while.

Recommend a repairable though if the disposables are driving you mad.

Stained Class · 22-04-2012 10:09am

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

if you want to swing by my place again I can give you a couple of cartomisers that'd work good on your bianis battery. I dont really need them any more as I dont have an ego battery and I'm loving my repairable atomiser atm so wont be using cartomisers at all for the forseeable future

Many thanks to Sir Digby.

Yesterday, he supplied me with 2 cartomisers & a drip tip(mouthpiece).

As a newcomer to the scene, I didn't know what a cartomiser was.

A 'carto' is basically a unit which screws on to your battery. It's a device that has an atomiser coil which is wrapped up in a 'cotton wool' type material.

You fill this with juice in much the same way as you'd fill a Zippo lighter. It can take a bit of practice getting the level right.

Essentially, it's an Atomiser & Cartridge combined into one unit, hence the name Cartomiser.

I've been trying it out for the last few hours.
I find that they give a drier & warmer vape than other systems I've used.Slightly diffrent flavour to it.
The leaking problem is solved though.

Apparently the lifespan of these things can vary though. Anything from a day or so to a couple of weeks. So it's a good idea to keep a few handy.

Pricewise, they're not bad. A quid or two each.

So far so good.

Aaron Chen · 25-04-2012 1:00pm

Stained Class wrote: »

I've got my imist about a week now & get the same problem sometimes.

The liquid leaks down into the battery compartment sometimes & gets drawn back up the system thru the mouthpiece, giving a nasty taste.

I sometimes blow it out with an airline.

Changed the cartrige this evening & no probs now.

How long are they meant to last anyway?

Where are you from? Ireland?
You get your Imist from irishvapers.ie?

We never receive leakage report, can you change a new cartridge to try again please?

liberty-flights.co.uk eCigwizard.com Irishvapers is Imist supplier.

newmark · 25-04-2012 1:09pm

Aaron Chen wrote: »

Where are you from? Ireland?
You get your Imist from irishvapers.ie?

We never receive leakage report, can you change a new cartridge to try again please?

liberty-flights.co.uk eCigwizard.com Irishvapers is Imist supplier.

So are you saying the other ones on sale in Ireland and the UK besides them 3 shops are not genuine Biansi Imists. I did get my original one from IrishVapers and the ones I got for other people too and had no problems with any of them?

wingnut32 · 25-04-2012 1:11pm

e-smokeireland are genuine kits direct from Biansi

Aaron Chen · 25-04-2012 1:17pm

newmark wrote: »

So are you saying the other ones on sale in Ireland and the UK besides them 3 shops are not genuine Biansi Imists. I did get my original one from IrishVapers and the ones I got for other people too and had no problems with any of them?

I will list a supplier list regarding Ireland tomorrow, ok?

The famous and the largest is IrishVapers in Ireland.
The famous in UK is liberty-flights.co.uk, eCigWizard.com.

Aaron

25-04-2012 2:54pm

Aaron Chen wrote: »

I will list a supplier list regarding Ireland tomorrow, ok?

The famous and the largest is IrishVapers in Ireland.
The famous in UK is liberty-flights.co.uk, eCigWizard.com.

Aaron

I have an imist. It was working fine. I got it from an Irish supplier site. I then needed some new wicks. I bought them from this site too - imist replacement wicks. They look like the old wicks but they are not the same quality (some broke immediately - wicking material came out of mesh bit) and make the device leak all the time because they don't fill the hole in the tank part enough. You need to make sure that the replacement wicks are the same quality as the ones that come with new attomisers or new kits. Also, some of the replacement wicks fell apart straight away. I'm very disappointed and can't use your imist product anymore.
Why are the wicks not the same quality????? If you don't maintain product quality you will lose customers.

Stained Class · 25-04-2012 9:18pm

Aaron Chen wrote: »

Where are you from? Ireland?
You get your Imist from irishvapers.ie?

Yes & Yes.

"We never receive leakage report, can you change a new cartridge to try again please?"

The kit came with a total of 6 cartridges.

I've just put in the last one & guess what?

It leaked within 10 minutes of use.

I know that this product gets good reviews & there are many people who are happy with this product. Maybe I'm just unlucky.

It leaks & it leaks badly.

So far as I can see, the cartridge is leaking through the silicon stopper.
The liquid then goes down thru the wick & then thru the coil.

It then settles in the space that joins the battery & coil mechanism.

It collects here & then is drawn up thru the 4 rectangular intake vents.
From here, it is drawn back up thru the entire mechanism till it gets back to the mouthpiece.

At this point one is inhaling the e-juice itself. Not good.

I can assure you that I'm using the device correctly.

Thin White Duck · 25-04-2012 11:05pm

Sounds like you're having a rough time with your Imist - I've only been using mine for 5 days now but have 6 different tanks on the go with different juices but haven't had anything like you've experienced.

One thought, the imist I got came with two spike assemblies (the bit that the tank sits into) - have you tried another one of these? If there was a problem with this bit then it could, at least in theory, lead to the problems you describe with multiple tanks.

26-04-2012 10:50am

Thin White Duck wrote: »

Sounds like you're having a rough time with your Imist - I've only been using mine for 5 days now but have 6 different tanks on the go with different juices but haven't had anything like you've experienced.

One thought, the imist I got came with two spike assemblies (the bit that the tank sits into) - have you tried another one of these? If there was a problem with this bit then it could, at least in theory, lead to the problems you describe with multiple tanks.

I think that a lot of the problems that people have are to do with the wicks. if the wicks are too loose then it leaks. the wicks are not manufactured consistently. I NEVER had any leaks but got some replacement wicks for the unit (from imist apparently) and the thing leaks all the time now as they don't fit as well as the original ones and too much liquid is getting through from the tank.

26-04-2012 11:51am

glasso wrote: »

I think that a lot of the problems that people have are to do with the wicks. if the wicks are too loose then it leaks. the wicks are not manufactured consistently. I NEVER had any leaks but got some replacement wicks for the unit (from imist apparently) and the thing leaks all the time now as they don't fit as well as the original ones and too much liquid is getting through from the tank.

where are you now Mr Chen...?????!!!!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 26-04-2012 11:56am

presumably he's been somewhere else for the past hour, chill dude

26-04-2012 1:56pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

presumably he's been somewhere else for the past hour, chill dude

my point was that he doesn't ever seem to address issues with the quality, only where you can buy the thing.

Stained Class · 26-04-2012 9:18pm

Thin White Duck wrote: »

One thought, the imist I got came with two spike assemblies (the bit that the tank sits into) - have you tried another one of these? If there was a problem with this bit then it could, at least in theory, lead to the problems you describe with multiple tanks.

Good point. 2 assemblies came with the kit.

I've just tried the other one just now & the same thing happened.

Glasso may have a point about the wicks.

I'm using replacement wicks too & that's probably where the problems started.

I'll change wicks again & see how I go.

Imist - liquid in the mouth?

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