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infinite monkey theorem

  • 16-04-2012 12:20AM
    #1
    wendell borton
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    The infinite monkey theorem states that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare.

    Now, thanks to the Internet, we know that is not true


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  • #2
    AboutTwoFiddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭AboutTwoFiddy


    That's a relief.


  • #3
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    *reluctantly releases monkeys*


  • #4
    AngryBollix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭AngryBollix


    Does this apply to samantha brick?


  • #5
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    wendell borton wrote: »
    The infinite monkey theorem states that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare.

    Now, thanks to the Internet, we know that is not true

    Well the way stats work, the first monkey could randomly generate the works of Shakespeare on his first try.

    So you would not need an infinite amount of time.


  • #6
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    To be or not to be that is the question mmmwwmmeewrmmrmrremmermrmre

    Its possible alright.


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  • #7
    fasttalkerchat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    Of course its true. What makes you think otherwise?


  • #8
    im invisible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times


  • #9
    TheChizler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,568 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    It was the best of times, It was the blurst of times?! You stupid monkey!!

    *Snap*


  • #10
    PhlegmyMoses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    Infinite honey badgers on the other hand.......


  • #11
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    For a moment I thought this thread was titled "Infinite money theorem". Ireland's now disproven theory on wealth generation in the property market :p


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  • #12
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Is this a banana I see before me?


  • #13
    The_Minister
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    wendell borton wrote: »
    The infinite monkey theorem states that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare.

    Now, thanks to the Internet, we know that is not true

    The internet has been around for a few decades, not infinity.

    The words typed into the internet have a person and are not random pressings of the keyboard, which is the point of the idea.


    Is there only one monkey?


  • #14
    Mickey H
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    wendell borton wrote: »
    The infinite secretary theorem states that a secretary hitting keys at random on a computer keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely make a typo error.

    Now, thanks to the Internet, we know that is not true

    There, FYP. :D


  • #15
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    fasttalkerchat wrote: »
    Of course its true. What makes you think otherwise?


    It not true, nature wise, a monkey nor us will use a keyboard in a purely random fashion. There will be a pattern to that randomness and the result of that patterned randomness will never be a work of shakespeare.

    Think about the problem of randomness, how do you generate a totally random number with no external influences using anything. There always will be.


  • #16
    Owen_S
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Owen_S


    This would explain how they write Fair City.


  • #17
    MickySticks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭MickySticks


    This is what I came up with after randomly hitting keys for 30 seconds.

    jddjsjsjsjdfjbbvdgdbdjmndldpdlkdjndddndndndnnsjmshsvznxmxmspskisjsjeuwsbenromeodskjdnsmndjdjkjndjndfhtrednaakdspxlcmnc ncfndjndjdjdjedneueki3ikejnmsnskdndjdndndjdndjfkfldodkdk


  • #18
    The King of Moo
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    MickySticks wrote: »
    This is what I came up with after randomly hitting keys for 30 seconds.

    jddjsjsjsjdfjbbvdgdbdjmndldpdlkdjndddndndndnnsjmshsvznxmxmspskisjsjeuwsbenromeodskjdnsmndjdjkjndjndfhtrednaakdspxlcmnc ncfndjndjdjdjedneueki3ikejnmsnskdndjdndndjdndjfkfldodkdk

    I think that's a passage from Finnegan's Wake!


  • #19
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,652 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    The_Minister wrote: »
    The words typed into the internet have a person and are not random pressings of the keyboard...
    I do wonder sometimes.
    The_Minister wrote: »
    Is there only one monkey?
    It can be one monkey and an infinite amount of time or an infinite number of monkeys and a set amount of time. Same symphony, different movement.


  • #20
    The_Minister
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Let me try!!


    Bella stared into Edwards eyes and felt his cold skin against her chest. Oh, how she longed to make him dinner and have his babies! Who needed a personality, or a purpose, so long as they had a handsome ageless boyfriend?


  • #21
    FlyingIrishMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭FlyingIrishMan


    The_Minister wrote: »
    Let me try!!


    Bella stared into Edwards eyes and felt his cold skin against her chest. Oh, how she longed to make him dinner and have his babies! Who needed a personality, or a purpose, so long as they had a handsome ageless boyfriend?

    Still a better love story than twi... oh. :rolleyes:


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  • #22
    wonderfulname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    The_Minister wrote: »
    Is there only one monkey?
    Normally it's said as an infinite number of monkeys for an infinite length of time, but you only need one condition to be infinite and it will still make sense.


  • #23
    kincsem
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭kincsem


    The monkeys complain that they can't get typewriters these days.


  • #24
    mackg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    Is there a theorem with a better name than this one? I doubt it.


  • #25
    Sofaspud
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    Given an infinite amount of time, a monkey's primate ancestors will gradually evolve over a huge amount of time until the human species comes into existance, one of whom will be called William Shakespeare thus writing the complete works of William Shakespear.

    It already happened lads!


  • #26
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I blame the unions


  • #27
    fasttalkerchat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    mackg wrote: »
    Is there a theorem with a better name than this one? I doubt it.
    I had a similar idea a few years back and called the Infinate time; infinate possibilities theory.
    I was shocked that this theory already existed!


  • #28
    sock puppet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭sock puppet


    44leto wrote: »
    Well the way stats work, the first monkey could randomly generate the works of Shakespeare on his first try.

    So you would not need an infinite amount of time.

    You would need an infinite amount of time for the probability to equal 1.


  • #29
    fasttalkerchat
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    sock puppet wrote: »
    You would need an infinite amount of time for the probability to equal 1.
    If they were given infinate time they would probably need little over half of it :D:D:D


  • #30
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    The King of Moo wrote: »
    *reluctantly releases monkeys*
    Thanks from: rab!dmonkey

    You're welcome, my furry friend.


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  • #31
    sock puppet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭sock puppet


    fasttalkerchat wrote: »
    If they were given infinate time they would probably need little over half of it :D:D:D

    Nope.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_distribution

    God I love boring people to death with probability.


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