Should horse racing be banned?

kfallon · 15-04-2012 02:55PM

13,000+ posts from the OP and not one has been posted in the Horse Racing forum, surprise surprise :rolleyes:

Seomra Mushie · 15-04-2012 02:57PM

kfallon wrote: »

13,000+ posts from the OP and not one has been posted in the Horse Racing forum, surprise surprise :rolleyes:

Surely an outside view from time to time is no bad thing? Plus, some people don't agree with animals being used in sports full stop. You don't need to be involved in the sports to know your stance on this.

Micky Dolenz · 15-04-2012 02:58PM

kfallon wrote: »

My point is you're talking thru your hole, as usual!

Quite the debater aren't you. Clever and articulate

kfallon · 15-04-2012 03:03PM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Quite the debater aren't you. Clever and articulate

Why would I debate horse racing with somebody who hasn't a clue?

You wouldn't know what end shites and what end bites :rolleyes:

kfallon · 15-04-2012 03:06PM

Seomra Mushie wrote: »

Surely an outside view from time to time is no bad thing? Plus, some people don't agree with animals being used in sports full stop. You don't need to be involved in the sports to know your stance on this.

So will the OP be updating this thread each day with thorouhbreds who have passed away? I doubt it.

We lost a great sire in Montjeu a few weeks ago due to complications with an illness, I don't remember a thread by the OP about that.

lividduck · 15-04-2012 03:08PM

kfallon wrote: »

Why would I debate horse racing with somebody who hasn't a clue?

You wouldn't know what end shites and what end bites :rolleyes:

wtf is your problem

Kiera · 15-04-2012 03:11PM

lividduck wrote: »

kfallon wrote: »

Why would I debate horse racing with somebody who hasn't a clue?

You wouldn't know what end shites and what end bites :rolleyes:

wtf is your problem

Why are you getting involved?

Huntley · 15-04-2012 03:12PM

There is a far bigger claim for the Cross Country race at Cheltenham to be pulled. That resulted in just as many deaths as the National did this year but we didn't see half as much venom from the media over that race.

That race has minimal positives for the industry and the course it is run on is like concrete. There would be no knock on effects on the economy if it was cancelled, in contrast to the National, and it is simply just a filler race with horses who have lost their way with the game.

I would guess that less than 5% of the people who have posted here even know what I am talking about, which only highlights the control that the media has.

Seomra Mushie · 15-04-2012 03:12PM

kfallon wrote: »

So will the OP be updating this thread each day with thorouhbreds who have passed away? I doubt it.

We lost a great sire in Montjeu a few weeks ago due to complications with an illness, I don't remember a thread by the OP about that.

Illnesses are unfortunate but they happen, how irrelevant!

lividduck · 15-04-2012 03:13PM

Kiera wrote: »

Why are you getting involved?

Who are you to ask?:p

Seomra Mushie · 15-04-2012 03:13PM

Kiera wrote: »

Why are you getting involved?

It's a thread, people are discussing, and that poster is being highly pugnacious. Why shouldn't he be pulled up on it?

kildare.17hmr · 15-04-2012 03:15PM

kfallon wrote: »

So will the OP be updating this thread each day with thorouhbreds who have passed away? I doubt it.

We lost a great sire in Montjeu a few weeks ago due to complications with an illness, I don't remember a thread by the OP about that.

does it matter? Everyone is entitled to an opinion!

I wouldnt support a ban at all, working animals love their jobs. The animal rights crowed really are a dumb bunch of twats, ban hunting and horse racing and see more and more unwanted animals being put down or abandend

Super-Rush · 15-04-2012 03:22PM

kfallon wrote: »

Why would I debate horse racing with somebody who hasn't a clue?

You wouldn't know what end shites and what end bites :rolleyes:

No you'd rather troll instead.

Quit it now or you'll be banned.

kfallon · 15-04-2012 03:23PM

lividduck wrote: »

wtf is your problem

Seomra Mushie wrote: »

Illnesses are unfortunate but they happen, how irrelevant!

OP watches Grand National, 2 horses die, he is 'outraged'.

A horse may die at Ayr next Friday, OP won't care, doubt he'll even know about it :rolleyes:

later12 · 15-04-2012 03:24PM

Seomra Mushie wrote: »

My dislike of foxhunting is do with the fox's experience not the horse's. I assumed many people were the same?

My point in referencing hunting was not in response to anything you had said, I'm merely pointing out the way that horses often appear to enjoy their time on the track as they do over the hunting field as something which may not be picked up on by people who have never had an association with these pursuits.

UrbanSea · 15-04-2012 03:24PM

Seomra Mushie wrote: »

Surely an outside view from time to time is no bad thing? Plus, some people don't agree with animals being used in sports full stop. You don't need to be involved in the sports to know your stance on this.

This just leads to a stream of ignorant and incorrect facts, this thread is rife with them. It does nothing but tint the truth and further mislead those people who know nothing about racing, but have their once a year rant mid April.

kfallon · 15-04-2012 03:25PM

Super-Rush wrote: »

No you'd rather troll instead.

Quit it now or you'll be banned.

How am I trolling?

More like the OP is tbh

And why wasn't this moved to the horse racing forum?

UrbanSea · 15-04-2012 03:26PM

I wonder does any of the sudden horse racing enthusiasts here know about the jockey that was airlifted to hospital at Ffos Las today?

That warrants more of a thread than the death of two horses.

Crann na Beatha · 15-04-2012 03:29PM

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kfallon · 15-04-2012 03:31PM

UrbanSea wrote: »

I wonder does any of the sudden horse racing enthusiasts here know about the jockey that was airlifted to hospital at Ffos Las today?

That warrants more of a thread than the death of two horses.

Thank God it looks like Nathan Cook is ok

UrbanSea · 15-04-2012 03:34PM

kfallon wrote: »

Thank God it looks like Nathan Cook is ok

I saw the fall, he got a good kick. Was knocked out for two minutes, he was airlifted just as a precaution, he's going for an MRI but he was talking and moving.

Discodog · 15-04-2012 03:35PM

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

The animal rights crowed really are a dumb bunch of twats, ban hunting and horse racing and see more and more unwanted animals being put down or abandend

Nice of you to differentiate between animal rights & animal welfare. For one brief moment I thought you were taking the opportunity presented by AH, rather than our usual API, to call me a dumb twat

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Racing will never be banned but if hunting were I am sure that the wonderful hunting folk would continue to look after their horses & hounds until the end of their natural lives. Or would they just call you in to shoot them :rolleyes: ?

xzanti · 15-04-2012 03:36PM

zerks wrote: »

Lets ban all sports on health & safety grounds:rolleyes:.I hate to be callous but they are only horses.When an animal dies we get all the animal rights loons coming out of the woodwork.

A footballer in Italy died today from a heart attack while playing for Livorno,should we ban football?

Yeah, sure fcuk them, horses don't feel pain.. what's a broken neck or two when there's money at stake.

DB10 · 15-04-2012 03:41PM

A lot of disgusting posts in this thread tbh. The horses welfare is most important, its seems alot of the degenerates you see in the bookies hoping horses fall have arrived online after their big gamble yesterday.

I find it hard to see how anyone can support this animal cruelty sport, they certainly only care about their bets or their job if they are involved with horses.

UrbanSea · 15-04-2012 03:42PM

xzanti wrote: »

Yeah, sure fcuk them, horses don't feel pain.. what's a broken neck or two when there's money at stake.

I'm sure he meant that they're only horses i.e they aren't people. Some people in these arguments put forward stupid hypothetical situations such as ''if two humans died yesterday it'd be cancelled.''

This is where some clearly dim people need to re-evaluate their opinions. Of course a sport would be banned should there be a high number of human casualties, though animals aren't held in the same regard, rightly so, and that's not to say I don't care about animals.

UrbanSea · 15-04-2012 03:44PM

DB10 wrote: »

A lot of disgusting posts in this thread tbh. The horses welfare is most important, its seems alot of the degenerates you see in the bookies hoping horses fall have arrived online after their big gamble yesterday.

I find it hard to see how anyone can support this animal cruelty sport, they certainly only care about their bets or their job if they are involved with horses.

Please don't apply your ignorance to everyone. Go into Jonjo O'Neill's yard today and ask the stable workers do they care that Synchronized died because they still have a job due to the other horses in the yard. The stable jockey even sat out his ride (favourite in a Grade 2 race) because he was distraught.

Seomra Mushie · 15-04-2012 03:44PM

later12 wrote: »

My point in referencing hunting was not in response to anything you had said, I'm merely pointing out the way that horses often appear to enjoy their time on the track as they do over the hunting field as something which may not be picked up on by people who have never had an association with these pursuits.

I know horses are naturally competitive animals, but that doesn't mean they should be put in dangerous situations or put under too much strain.

UrbanSea wrote: »

I wonder does any of the sudden horse racing enthusiasts here know about the jockey that was airlifted to hospital at Ffos Las today?

That warrants more of a thread than the death of two horses.

Again, the jockey CHOOSES to be involved in the sport.

Micky Dolenz · 15-04-2012 03:45PM

kfallon wrote: »

Why would I debate horse racing with somebody who hasn't a clue?

You wouldn't know what end shites and what end bites :rolleyes:

What do you base that on?

kfallon · 15-04-2012 03:45PM

xzanti wrote: »

Yeah, sure fcuk them, horses don't feel pain.. what's a broken neck or two when there's money at stake.

Why do you think that everyone who likes horse racing is only in it for the money?

But I agree with the first part of your post, these horses mean so much to so many people, they are not 'just' horses. As I said before there is a lad or lass who looked after Synchronised every day of his life who is heartbroken today, JP McManus and Jonjo will be feeling the same. I don't see people calling for F1 to be banned even tho we have lost people due to crashes in that sport.

DB10 · 15-04-2012 03:46PM

UrbanSea wrote: »

Please don't apply your ignorance to everyone. Go into Jonjo O'Neill's yard today and ask the stable workers do they care that Synchronized died because they still have a job due to the other horses in the yard. The stable jockey even sat out his ride (favourite in a Grade 2 race) because he was distraught.

As long as they get their pay cheque I'm sure they'll be grand.

Sure didn't one of the stable jockeys earn 2 million pounds last week on a bet. I'd say he cares right now alright.

It's a disgrace the money involved and nobody cares about the horses.

Should horse racing be banned?

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