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Nationwide Burglaries

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  • #32
    Doc Ruby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    gurramok wrote: »
    Yes and locations within Dublin city have marginally higher stats than a year earlier. However commuter towns have seen their burglary rates rocket.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0410/1224314567573.html

    Meath increased by 40% :eek:
    That's what I said.
    John_Rambo wrote: »
    I_smell_Fear is talking nationwide. I can't see big time gangs traveling far to burgle. I'd honestly say the problem is local unless it's very very worth it, ie; lots of guns and lots of cash. I know it would be nice to blame it on gangs from outside the locality, but normally, it's a localised problem committed by local people who would know the habits and probable gains of the victims.
    So why are such crimes down in the west? If you're claiming locals are responsible, surely it should be the same everywhere.

    The devil is always in the details.


  • #33
    LETHAL LADY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    That's what I said.


    So why are such crimes down in the west? If you're claiming locals are responsible, surely it should be the same everywhere.

    The devil is always in the details.

    I live in a fairly small town in the south east (population roughly 5000) which in the past few years has seen a heroin epidemic amongst its young people, so much so there is now a clinic to deal with it. Would it be beyond possibility to perhaps believe that addicts have no choice but to rob their neighbours?


  • #34
    Doc Ruby
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    LETHAL LADY wrote: »
    I live in a fairly small town in the south east (population roughly 5000) which in the past few years has seen a heroin epidemic amongst its young people, so much so there is now a clinic to deal with it. Would it beyond possibility to perhaps believe that addicts have no choice but to rob their neighbours?
    It would be well within possibility. But the numbers show a spike in crime in the east and a reduction in the west, so its not too hard to draw a few conclusions on that basis.


  • #35
    John_Rambo
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    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    So why are such crimes down in the west? If you're claiming locals are responsible, surely it should be the same everywhere

    The latest census tells us that the East coast is the most populated and the West is sadly getting less populated. So... population decline = crime decline. The OP talks about a nationwide problem. Maybe the sort of crimes we are talking about are down is because your local burglar is no longer living local.


  • #36
    laughter189
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    The criminal profile is changing and widening


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  • #37
    LETHAL LADY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    It would be well within possibility. But the numbers show a spike in crime in the east and a reduction in the west, so its not too hard to draw a few conclusions on that basis.

    I do not believe that house break-ins in the "country" are being committed by Dublin folk. That is all.


  • #38
    C-Shore
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    Stained Class wrote: »
    Sometimes it's some local scummer alright, but always be suspicious of 'Darndale Families' moving into your area.

    They're usually trouble.

    You're funny, this made me laugh!


  • #39
    Gran Hermano
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    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    It would be well within possibility. But the numbers show a spike in crime in the east and a reduction in the west, so its not too hard to draw a few conclusions on that basis.

    Emigration and migration to the east coast from the West of young men due to unemployment and rural depopulation could be a factor. If a demographic group is leaving an area is it not likely that the percentage of those who historically would have had a tendency towards crime would cause a drop in crimes in the west?


  • #40
    gurramok
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    LETHAL LADY wrote: »
    I do not believe that house break-ins in the "country" are being committed by Dublin folk. That is all.

    What other kind of folk could it be?:confused:


  • #41
    washman3
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    John_Rambo wrote: »
    I know it's attractive to blame outsiders or people that moved in recently (blowins) but, it's usually a local.

    Rubbish.!!
    i live over 100 miles from Dublin. my elderly neighbour's house was burgled last summer while he was at mass.
    By pure chance the local Gardai apprehended the 2 perpetrators in the act.
    1 was from Artane in Dublin city,the other from Strabane in county Tyrone.
    Everyone knows the local link but it cant be proven as he was conveniently "out of town" at the time.
    The OP is talking about NATIONWIDE BURGLARIES, not petty local hits where a local opportunist scumbag skips through an open door or window, grabs a handbag or laptop while the housewife is at the clothsline or on the telephone and disappears in a minute or two. These type are seldom even investigated.
    The bigger burglaries are organised,sometimes items stolen to order,like Flatscreens,Stoves,horseboxes,purebred dogs. In other words items that can be offloaded quickly for ready cash,good cash. One of these burglaries may yield a few thousand euros to each member.


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  • #42
    Stained Class
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    C-Shore wrote: »
    You're funny, this made me laugh!

    Really?

    I'm glad your'e amused.

    It's not so funny for some people though.


  • #43
    LETHAL LADY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    gurramok wrote: »
    What other kind of folk could it be?:confused:

    Non Dublin folk.;)


  • #44
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    This thread reminds me of the four air corp or navy servicemen who died in a helicopter crash off the south east coast

    Families houses were burgled during the funerals

    Whether it was outsiders or not, a local was involved somewhere with the times, local roads and addresses

    This is going back several years now, just was high profile at the time


  • #45
    gurramok
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    LETHAL LADY wrote: »
    Non Dublin folk.;)

    Locals?


  • #46
    John_Rambo
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    washman3 wrote: »
    Flatscreens,Stoves,horseboxes,purebred dogs

    No. Pure pub talk, you were fed bullsyte. Dublin gangs are not interested in flatscreen TV's, stoves or horseboxes. They are interested in guns, big money and laundering.

    I'd bet your elderly neighbour was burgled by a local that knew he was at mass.


  • #47
    C-Shore
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    Stained Class wrote: »
    Really?

    I'm glad your'e amused.

    It's not so funny for some people though.

    I know, most people don't find stereotyping funny; but whether you're being sarcastic and dry, or serious; I'm laughing either way.


  • #48
    df1985
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    Neighbour is a sergeant and busted a gang for a spate of robberies in the local area. they had a map of house, some with back dots(dont bother), others no dots.

    black dots=house has a dog. enough to deter them.


    EDIT: Just remembered for both my mam and dads funerals (seperate dates) 2 neighbours stayed in my house for the day based on advice from the guards.....thats how scummy burglers are.


  • #49
    Novella
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    Chips Ahoy wrote: »
    Did anyone else read this as Nationwide Bulgarians

    I read it as 'Norwegian Burglaries'.


  • #50
    Pottler
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    John_Rambo wrote: »
    No. Pure pub talk, you were fed bullsyte. Dublin gangs are not interested in flatscreen TV's, stoves or horseboxes. They are interested in guns, big money and laundering.

    I'd bet your elderly neighbour was burgled by a local that knew he was at mass.
    make sure ye all disable your washing machines before you go out, that'l learn em - no laundry gonna get done in my gaff, ye non-local blow-in, foreign, local bastards ye..


  • #51
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    So why are such crimes down in the west?


    Crime down in the west and up in the east? That sounds crazy. For that you'd need a highly mobile gang of no fixed abode to be moving between the rich pickings between east and west.

    It's impossible and I don'r think it could ever happen.


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  • #52
    Run_to_da_hills
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    Ban Cash for Gold scammers.

    They are a magnet for scumbags takings.


  • #53
    I_smell_fear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 378 ✭✭I_smell_fear


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Ban Cash for Gold scammers.

    They are a magnet for scumbags takings.

    Very true. The Garda I mentioned in my opening post mentioned the cooperation between cash for gold shops with criminals. The shops know they can rely on the criminals to bring in a steady flow of jewellery etc., and are more than willing to aid their criminal activities.


  • #54
    Cantona's Collars
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    Motorways mean easy access to any part of the country and fresh areas to target,the East Coast has suffered a surge in burglaries and many are done by gangs travelling from Dublin.Incidentally any of those that were caught are travellers based in Dublin.

    Here's what happened to one person: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=78065428&postcount=22

    Burglaries in Co.Wexford are up 22% and it's only a matter of time before one of these scumbags breaks into the wrong place and has a hole blasted in them-I for one will applaud the person that shoots them.


  • #55
    mattjack
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    Stained Class wrote: »
    Old trick.

    I live in the south-east.

    During the Boom a lot of Dub-Skang (DS) bought houses down our way.

    They'd have any awld house in the smoke bought/inherited years ago.

    All of a sudden, it was worth a mint!

    They cottoned on quickly that they could sell their Gaffs for a fortune & buy a nice place in a nice area within a hour of the Capital.

    Buy it for cash & have a small fortune in the bank.

    A lot of these were DS. They don't really need the locals cos there's a certain amount of DS in most towns & villages across the south east.

    They infest an area & contact some of their mates 'back home' about easy pickings in their new areas.

    The mates come down & loot the area & give their pals a cut of the proceeds.

    That's the way it works.
    Stained Class wrote: »
    Sometimes it's some local scummer alright, but always be suspicious of 'Darndale Families' moving into your area.

    They're usually trouble.

    Fantastic, one of the most illuminating poster's ever to grace us.

    Everyone knows, of course, that all criminals come from Dublin and never has there been a criminal born outside Dublin , ever.

    Sir ,I tip my hat to you.


  • #56
    Run_to_da_hills
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    I_smell_fear wrote: »
    Very true. The Garda I mentioned in my opening post mentioned the cooperation between cash for gold shops with criminals. The shops know they can rely on the criminals to bring in a steady flow of jewellery etc., and are more than willing to aid their criminal activities.

    It dose seem quite ironic that the authorities can shut down head shops and then condone the opening of these places almost immediately after.Both had two things in common, ie get rich quick while the sun shines.

    It wouldnt surprise me if the same indiviuals were behind each.


  • #57
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Chips Ahoy wrote: »
    Did anyone else read this as Nationwide Bulgarians
    I thought it was Fingleton


  • #58
    John_Rambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,733 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    zerks wrote: »
    done by gangs travelling from Dublin.Incidentally any of those that were caught are travellers based in Dublin.

    Here's what happened to one person: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=78065428&postcount=22

    No mention of anyone from Dublin carrying out any of these burglaries. Who told you the ones caught were travelers from Dublin? Sounds like someones having you on to be honest. Most buglaries are carried out by your own home grown scum. ;) They know the habits, weak spots and vulnerabilities of their victims.


  • #59
    ejmaztec
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    John_Rambo wrote: »
    No. Pure pub talk, you were fed bullsyte. Dublin gangs are not interested in flatscreen TV's, stoves or horseboxes. They are interested in guns, big money and laundering.

    I'd bet your elderly neighbour was burgled by a local that knew he was at mass.

    They have to look their best.


  • #60
    Cantona's Collars
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    John_Rambo wrote: »
    No mention of anyone from Dublin carrying out any of these burglaries. Who told you the ones caught were travelers from Dublin? Sounds like someones having you on to be honest. Most buglaries are carried out by your own home grown scum. ;) They know the habits, weak spots and vulnerabilities of their victims.

    I said the ones who were caught,it's easy to know who they are when the local papers print their names & addresses after the court cases.
    Not all the burglaries around here are done by outsiders,a few of the locals are very adept at it too.


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  • #61
    Lone Stone
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    My friend lives in balbrigan and the area is being burgled most day's they had to set up community patrole's to go around the estate's because the gardi wont do a thing about it :rolleyes: she just had a baby and they tried to break into her house, the guy was apparently just hanging around outside her and the neighbours house for over a week watching them and the gardi wouldnt even come down and do anything.


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