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Over 20% of Irish children report hearing voices

  • 12-04-2012 01:19PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 990 ✭✭✭


    Hearing voices may affect over a fifth of schoolchildren aged 11 to 13, a psychiatric study has found.
    In most cases, the auditory hallucinations stop with time, the findings show. But children who continue to hear voices could be at risk of mental illness or behavioural disorders.
    Researchers carried out psychiatric assessments of almost 2,500 children aged between 11 and 16 in Dublin.
    They discovered that 21%-23% of younger adolescents, aged 11 to 13, had experienced auditory hallucinations
    Full article on RTE here: http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0412/over-20-of-children-report-hearing-voices.html

    I have to admit I'm very surprised by this report. It seems an extraordinarily high figure to me.
    I never knew hearing "voices" was so common. I didn't hear anything growing up but I think if I'd heard anything I would have really been freaked out by it.
    Probably would have been reluctant to talk about it too, I'd imagine a lot of people would have called me crazy or labelled me a "psycho". Hopefully with this report showing that hearing voices is commonplace, it will help breakdown taboos about it.
    Did anyone on here hear voices growing up? Did it scare you? Did you talk to anyone about it? What are your thoughts on this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    its called daydreaming, can kids just be left be kids anymore?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,406 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


    if only 20% of kids hear voices does that mean 80% of kids are deaf?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    They tell me to set fire to things laddie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    That's because children are more in tune with the spirit world. As they grow older, society conditions them to ignore the voices and to conform.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    Burn em Ralphy, Burn em all!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    krudler wrote: »
    its called daydreaming, can kids just be left be kids anymore?

    Dont be silly, they cant just be left to be kids, its all about analyising and tagging kids these days.

    One of mine is a bit "wild" plenty of energy, always climbing and stuff. GP wants him tested for ADHD,apsbergers n god knows what else. He s only two and enjoying being a kid FFS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    They assessed 2500 children in Dublin and then claim its nationwide.
    Surly a comprensive assessment should be of children from all over Ireland.
    I agree with this.
    Do you?
    Yes I do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    i'm predicting a rise of 'the voices told me to do it' in irelands criminal courts now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    krudler wrote: »
    its called daydreaming, can kids just be left be kids anymore?

    No, at least not until every nuance of human existence has been labeled a condition.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Looks like another generation of children are going to drugged up just for being children

    There is a label and a drug for everything these days


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    I wouldn't worry too much about 20% of kids hearing voices.
    It's the larger percentage that don't listen is what concerns me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    I've no problem with kids hearing voices or seeing things we can't. Their imagination is far, far better than most adults after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Aye, and according to a questionnaire we answered anonymously when I was in in secondary school about 75% of my class had cocaine habits too... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    They say it just to get noticed, kids are like dogs, always vying for their owner's attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I don't know what to make of this "study" tbh.

    How do you explain to a child what "hearing voices" should sound like? There's a general theory that it takes a little while for humans to make sense of how their head works, and so children tend to have difficulty integrating the inner monologue with the rest of their thinking, and so may often describe this as "someone inside me telling me what to do". As an inner monologue isn't always a single train of thought either, it would be very easy to describe it as a conversation going on between two or more people inside your own head.

    The maturation of the brain leads to better control of the inner monlogue and more understanding internally of how it all fits together.

    I don't think it's a massive leap then to suppose that most of this 20% is the simply the result of immature brains failing to understand the difference between inner monologues, daydreams and actual auditory hallucinations. This would also explain why it spontaneously "goes away" as they get older.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭ChubbyHubby


    How do I get my hands on the actual study? Serious question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,926 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Note, its OK to hear your own voice in your head. It is when you hear other people's voice when you shouldn't be able to, that's when it might be a problem.
    krudler wrote: »
    its called daydreaming, can kids just be left be kids anymore?
    While this is AH, I think thats may be a bit glib.Pretty much everyone daydreams, not everyone hears voices.

    Once, I saw three coffins in the office at work. My eys were telling me there were coffins, logic and common sense told me that we don't keep coffins in work. I was only able to deduce I was halucinating.
    I wasn't halucinating, the coffins were there - the builder who was fitting out the storey below us was doing a prank for Halloween.

    Sometimes the mind has difficulty reconciling perception with reality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    well that fits in with 1:4/5 people will develop a mental illness stat. makes sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭stevedublin


    IM0 wrote: »
    well that fits in with 1:4/5 people will develop a mental illness stat. makes sense.

    decyphering your mathematical notation would make me develop a mental illness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    decyphering your mathematical notation would make me develop a mental illness.

    simple ratio. Ill spell it out for you. 1 in 4 or 5 people!

    still not with me?

    ok. well if 5 people are in a room......


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    IM0 wrote: »
    well that fits in with 1:4/5 people will develop a mental illness stat. makes sense.

    You know nothing about mental illness, right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    Confab wrote: »
    You know nothing about mental illness, right?

    why :confused:
    Id say I know more than most tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    seamus wrote: »
    I don't know what to make of this "study" tbh.

    How do you explain to a child what "hearing voices" should sound like? There's a general theory that it takes a little while for humans to make sense of how their head works, and so children tend to have difficulty integrating the inner monologue with the rest of their thinking, and so may often describe this as "someone inside me telling me what to do". As an inner monologue isn't always a single train of thought either, it would be very easy to describe it as a conversation going on between two or more people inside your own head.

    The maturation of the brain leads to better control of the inner monlogue and more understanding internally of how it all fits together.

    I don't think it's a massive leap then to suppose that most of this 20% is the simply the result of immature brains failing to understand the difference between inner monologues, daydreams and actual auditory hallucinations. This would also explain why it spontaneously "goes away" as they get older.

    exactly, everyone has that "ah sh1t I forgot to do that thing, ah well do it tomorrow" voice in their head, but its not an actual case of hearing voices, my inner monologue is always going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭Irish Halo


    How do I get my hands on the actual study? Serious question.

    This should be it:
    http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/early/2012/03/28/bjp.bp.111.101543


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    I'm willing to bet that 19% of Irish kids answered Yes just to wind up the researcher.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    I'm Morgan Freeman,





    You are hearing my voice in your head as you read this.






    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Thanks OP.

    I've just killed my children to be on the safe side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭haminka


    I'll just wait till my daughter starts seeing dead people. When she spots Bruce Willis, I'll ask her to arrange a date.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    foxyboxer wrote: »
    I'm Morgan Freeman,





    You are hearing my voice in your head as you read this.






    :pac:

    :(

    Where is Morgan gone, I enjoyed his posts..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    They assessed 2500 children in Dublin and then claim its nationwide.
    Surly a comprensive assessment should be of children from all over Ireland.
    I agree with this.
    Do you?
    Yes I do.

    People outside Dublin don't count.


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