I have a cousin who has MS for almost 30 years, get all the perks

El Weirdo · 11-04-2012 09:06AM

RiseToTheTop wrote: »

I dunno what to say...

Then maybe you shouldn't have bothered trying, tbh.

Stay classy, OP.

NIMAN · 11-04-2012 09:09AM

Jez, I wish I could get MS, so I could get all these perks:rolleyes:

Ellis Dee · 11-04-2012 09:10AM

MS is a complex condition and both its severity and the rate at which it progresses vary considerably from individual to individual.

I see nothing wrong with the State looking after people like that - as well as possible within reason to ensure that they can lead a life of human dignity.:)

No matter how much envy and begrudgery it prompts in some.:rolleyes:

The big question you should ask yourself when you see the handicapped getting a little goody or two and you think they are on the pig's back is this: Would I like to be in his shoes?

And when it comes to MS, I'd sooner be healthy and able to walk everywhere. Not even a Rolls-Royce from the social welfare would be much consolation even if it made life a bit more bearable.:)

Conor Bourke · 11-04-2012 09:16AM

My Mum has had MS for almost 30 years as well, and thankfully has never needed to avail of these "perks". She has been mostly well and able to get around but fatigue is a major issue for her. If you didn't know her, you'd never think there was anything wrong to look at her. She has been entitled to many things over the last few years, but she has declined them for two reasons:
-she felt she didn't need them and it would be greedy to avail
-she was afraid of people like the OP making crass assumptions about her milking the system.

fret_wimp2 · 11-04-2012 09:20AM

hey OP.

Lets be hypothetical for a second.

Imagine I have this pill/injection that will cause you to be tired after only 5-10 minutes of walking, cause you untold pain and will shorten your life by 10-20 years or more.

If i give you the loan of a council house, and the VRT off your car each year, would you take it?

BackScrub · 11-04-2012 09:43AM

Does he get MS Office installed for free too?

pickarooney · 11-04-2012 09:52AM

Alaskimo-cake wrote: »

-she felt she didn't need them and it would be greedy to avail
-she was afraid of people like the OP making crass assumptions about her milking the system.

She was afraid people would agree with her, essentially?

Riskymove · 11-04-2012 10:00AM

Just a quick point in relation to some of the posts

MS is not a fatal disease

while obviously it can affect people quite badly and leave them debilitated, it does not kill.

Symptoms vary from person to person and I am in no way belittling the impact of this terrible disease, but just thought I would point that out given some of the statements

Meow_Meow · 11-04-2012 10:04AM

To basically sum up the OP:
Cousin: Y u no die yet??

MarkR · 11-04-2012 10:09AM

Show me here where anyone gets a free house.

Thank fcuk he didn't go around "tuk er jobs"ing, otherwise you'd be in a real pickle.

AboutTwoFiddy · 11-04-2012 10:12AM

MarkR wrote: »

Show me here where anyone gets a free house.

Thank fcuk he didn't go around "tuk er jobs"ing, otherwise you'd be in a real pickle.

Ans I hope people don't miss this bit:

Please note: People with MS may be entitled to some of the following benefits - however many of these are means tested.

forfuxsake · 11-04-2012 10:14AM

MS? MS? the lucky ba$tard. The nights I've lain awake, dreaming about having MS. Some people have all the luck!*

*http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/show/77354

Biggins · 11-04-2012 10:39AM

RiseToTheTop wrote: »

I dunno what to say. He can get around the place without a wheelchair. He gets a free car of the state every 2 years, and this ain't no cheap model, its worth around €20,000. It is the latest year too, brand spankingly new. Completely free, every 2 years without fail.

He got a big massive vehicle for getting him around, despite him only using it for going to the pub. It is intended for people who can't walk, you could label it an electric wheelchair but this thing is more like a vehicle. It has it's own steering wheel, I say it cost by itself over €20,000. He uses it on the footpath as it isn't for the road, though it's much too big for the footpath IMO. He got a house from the state which would have been worth around €300,000 during the boomtime and he got a garage put in the side just for this vehicle/electric wheelchair.

I know it is extraordinary for a person to live for 30 years with MS, but he is looking well. As I said, he only uses the car/electric wheelchair to go to the pub, othertimes he uses a crutch. He walks without support to and from his car. He walks around his own house with no support. Thought ye feel this a bit too much though. as I said, over €20,000 IMO for the thing that gets him around, new car every 2 years. I'm certain he gets more than the standard disability allowance every week.

Post's like this depress me because it reminds me that there is still too much sad, poor thinking wally's in the world.

Conor Bourke · 11-04-2012 10:43AM

Riskymove wrote: »

Just a quick point in relation to some of the posts

MS is not a fatal disease

while obviously it can affect people quite badly and leave them debilitated, it does not kill.

Symptoms vary from person to person and I am in no way belittling the impact of this terrible disease, but just thought I would point that out given some of the statements

Very true, bur there are worse things than death IMO

Conor Bourke · 11-04-2012 10:55AM

pickarooney wrote: »

She was afraid people would agree with her, essentially?

Well yes and no.

My mother suffers from Remitting/Relapsing MS and as I said, most of the time, on the outside she looks perfectly fine but inside she's suffering and she pushes herself far too hard- her rationale being that she's afraid if she ever stops she'll never get started again. We are not a "well-off" family, we're getting by but it's damn hard work, we never really had a break of it during the Celtic Tiger. We could've gotten grants for home improvements, she could've gotten a medical card, and free travel but she declined them all. She has scrimped and saved to afford VHI in case things got worse quickly (which they did recently), she drove everywhere even though she finds it draining. She could get a disabled parking disc but in her mind, that would be a mortifying admission of her illness. Instead if she's not able to face driving in to Dunnes to do the shopping or whatever, she'll either get it delivered or get one of us to go in for her. She could buy a modified/automatic car and get the rebate, but once again, has declined as she feels it would be an admission of failure.

Basically, the woman has pride and integrity. I know quite a few of her fellow sufferers in the area and they are the same. I'm glad she's not on boards as she'd find this thread very upsetting.

Duiske · 11-04-2012 10:57AM

AboutTwoFiddy wrote: »

As far as I'm aware no such scheme exists. I think specially modified cars for people with a disability don't have to pay VRT on vehicles, but that's about it.

True. Vrt and motor tax are the only freebies. Wonder what else in the op's post is a figment of their jealous imagination.

Edit.... Forgot to add that VAT is also refundable on fuel, up to a max of about 2,000 ltrs.

ElleEm · 11-04-2012 11:12AM

Oh my God, I feel like crying.

I was diagnosed with MS a year and a half ago (aged 27).
I had to give up my job due to the symptoms I suffered with and am still off work now, trying to find a suitable job for me to do in my career area.
Just because I may not LOOK like I am struggling does not mean I am not.
My close family and friends are the only ones who have an insight into how I ACTUALLY am, and even then, I would only tell them about 80% of my ongoing issues as not to bore them to tears with my moans!

I have had people tell me of all these magical benefits I can get that their friend's mother's sister's brother's gardener gets, (free cars, houses, cleaners, free bills, etc.).
Although I have days where I feel ashamed to have to claim Illness Benefit, I have looked into other welfare allowances, and trust me, they are not easy to get. I am living hand to mouth at the minute and am not entitled to any other assistance.

If your uncle gets all these benefits, it is because he is entitled to them. I can gaurentee that every morning, he wakes up struggling to have the most "normal" day possible.

I want to curse at you, OP, but don't want the ban.

hooradiation · 11-04-2012 11:15AM

Dudess wrote: »

Surely a satirical swipe at all the anti-benefits-no-matter-what mong threads?

Hopefully, otherwise the implications are... unpleasant.

ejmaztec · 11-04-2012 11:20AM

Hopefully OP, if MB (Multiple Begrudgery) is ever recognised as an incurable disease by the State, you too will get all the financial benefits to go along with it.

Kev_2012 · 11-04-2012 11:22AM

I'd rather have my health than any amount of money.

stripysocks85 · 11-04-2012 11:23AM

Only in AH would ya see someone complaining about someone having a disability. Jesus.

Dyr · 11-04-2012 11:26AM

RiseToTheTop wrote: »

I dunno what to say. He can get around the place without a wheelchair. He gets a free car of the state every 2 years, and this ain't no cheap model, its worth around €20,000. It is the latest year too, brand spankingly new. Completely free, every 2 years without fail.

He got a big massive vehicle for getting him around, despite him only using it for going to the pub. It is intended for people who can't walk, you could label it an electric wheelchair but this thing is more like a vehicle. It has it's own steering wheel, I say it cost by itself over €20,000. He uses it on the footpath as it isn't for the road, though it's much too big for the footpath IMO. He got a house from the state which would have been worth around €300,000 during the boomtime and he got a garage put in the side just for this vehicle/electric wheelchair.

I know it is extraordinary for a person to live for 30 years with MS, but he is looking well. As I said, he only uses the car/electric wheelchair to go to the pub, othertimes he uses a crutch. He walks without support to and from his car. He walks around his own house with no support. Thought ye feel this a bit too much though. as I said, over €20,000 IMO for the thing that gets him around, new car every 2 years. I'm certain he gets more than the standard disability allowance every week.

You're not here a wet week and you're starting welfare threads?

Jesus wept.

Logical Fallacy · 11-04-2012 11:38AM

abouttobebanned wrote: »

OP if you started this thread by talking about your cousin with MS who is neglected by the state and doesn't get enough help...all the thanked replies would be stuff like "what makes this man so special". "theres a lot in the same boat". Most people on boards are a bit thick. If they lived next door to your cousin they'd bitch about what he gets from the state etc....but it's your turn to be taken down a few pegs today. Sorry about that.

They wouldn't because he doesn't get a free car every 2 years, as has been established within this thread.

OP is full of **** tbh.

El Siglo · 11-04-2012 11:43AM

I really am getting sick to my balls of these trolling threads in AH, nearly as bad as Samantha Brick in the Daily Fail.

On a serious note, MS is a fucking rotten disease to have and if you knew how bad it really is OP you wouldn't have started a retarded fuck bag thread in AH about it.

El Siglo · 11-04-2012 11:44AM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

They wouldn't because he doesn't get a free car every 2 years, as has been established within this thread.

OP is full of **** tbh.

Also, if you have MS you're not allowed to drive.

ElleEm · 11-04-2012 11:45AM

El Siglo wrote: »

I really am getting sick to my balls of these trolling threads in AH, nearly as bad as Samantha Brick in the Daily Fail.

On a serious note, MS is a fucking rotten disease to have and if you knew how bad it really is OP you wouldn't have started a retarded fuck bag thread in AH about it.

THANK YOU!!!!!

Conor Bourke · 11-04-2012 11:48AM

El Siglo wrote: »

Also, if you have MS you're not allowed to drive.

Not true, Mum's been driving for the past 30 years. She has to have her vision checked now and again but apart from that, no issues that I'm aware of.

ElleEm · 11-04-2012 11:49AM

El Siglo wrote: »

Also, if you have MS you're not allowed to drive.

That's not true.

Everyone with MS has different symptoms, some may affect your ability to drive, but not all. It also depends on what type you have. I have RRMS (Relapsing Remitting MS). It effectively means I get sick, I get better, I get sick, I get better, and so on. I drive, but it's common sense that I don't operate a car if I have a symptom that renders this unsafe.

Renn · 11-04-2012 11:49AM

Bambi wrote: »

You're not here a wet week and you're starting welfare threads?

Jesus wept.

Well he's been here longer than that. Used to be CorkMan but got banned.

Dyr · 11-04-2012 11:51AM

Renn wrote: »

Well he's been here longer than that. Used to be CorkMan but got banned.

He's from cork too? Christ. Can we just ban cahrk IP addresses?

I have a cousin who has MS for almost 30 years, get all the perks

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