I have a cousin who has MS for almost 30 years, get all the perks

RiseToTheTop · 11-04-2012 07:53AM #1

I dunno what to say. He can get around the place without a wheelchair. He gets a free car of the state every 2 years, and this ain't no cheap model, its worth around €20,000. It is the latest year too, brand spankingly new. Completely free, every 2 years without fail.

He got a big massive vehicle for getting him around, despite him only using it for going to the pub. It is intended for people who can't walk, you could label it an electric wheelchair but this thing is more like a vehicle. It has it's own steering wheel, I say it cost by itself over €20,000. He uses it on the footpath as it isn't for the road, though it's much too big for the footpath IMO. He got a house from the state which would have been worth around €300,000 during the boomtime and he got a garage put in the side just for this vehicle/electric wheelchair.

I know it is extraordinary for a person to live for 30 years with MS, but he is looking well. As I said, he only uses the car/electric wheelchair to go to the pub, othertimes he uses a crutch. He walks without support to and from his car. He walks around his own house with no support. Thought ye feel this a bit too much though. as I said, over €20,000 IMO for the thing that gets him around, new car every 2 years. I'm certain he gets more than the standard disability allowance every week.

dee. · 11-04-2012 07:55AM

Stop begrudging and go out side and have a nice walk.

Susie_Q · 11-04-2012 07:56AM

Why are you so bothered by this? How does it negatively affect your life?

CardBordWindow · 11-04-2012 07:57AM

Just be glad you're healthy!

RiseToTheTop · 11-04-2012 07:57AM

Susie_Q wrote: »

Why are you so bothered by this? How does it negatively affect your life?

I'm not very bothered, I just felt like making this thread for everyone to see what this man gets for free. I feel it is excessive.

Gummy Panda · 11-04-2012 07:58AM

RiseToTheTop wrote: »

I dunno what to say. He can get around the place without a wheelchair. He gets a free car of the state every 2 years, and this ain't no cheap model, its worth around €20,000. It is the latest year too, brand spankingly new. Completely free, every 2 years without fail.

He got a big massive vehicle for getting him around, despite him only using it for going to the pub. It is intended for people who can't walk, you could label it an electric wheelchair but this thing is more like a vehicle. It has it's own steering wheel, I say it cost by itself over €20,000. He uses it on the footpath as it isn't for the road, though it's much too big for the footpath IMO. He got a house from the state which would have been worth around €300,000 during the boomtime and he got a garage put in the side just for this vehicle/electric wheelchair.

I know it is extraordinary for a person to live for 30 years with MS, but he is looking well. As I said, he only uses the car/electric wheelchair to go to the pub, othertimes he uses a crutch. He walks without support to and from his car. He walks around his own house with no support. Thought ye feel this a bit too much though. as I said, over €20,000 IMO for the thing that gets him around, new car every 2 years. I'm certain he gets more than the standard disability allowance every week.

And he'd probably give it all up to not have MS

dee. · 11-04-2012 08:00AM

RiseToTheTop wrote: »

I'm not very bothered, I just felt like making this thread for everyone to see what this man gets for free. I feel it is excessive.

Yeah I mean god forbid a grown man use his vehicle to travel to the pub. He should clearly stay locked in his bedroom and not socialize or enjoy his life at all.

Even if his MS isn't severe, you don't know how it affects him daily as you never had it yourself. You sound very bitter, not a nice quality, especially considering its a family member.

The Rook · 11-04-2012 08:01AM

Wow, your cousin is so lucky, having a debilitating disease like MS where he gets a shortened lifespan.

I wish I could have MS so I could be like him and get a free wheelchair, car and house.

FFS, I hope he never sees your post and recognises you for the begrudging curmudgeon you are.

Sometimes water is thicker than blood after all.

Joey the lips · 11-04-2012 08:03AM

Its amazing how a little bit of envy can lead to a lot of misunderstanding.

All your assumptions have taken the outside and screwed it up to your twisted sense of rage and misunderstanding.

Try looking inside and be greatful that you get nothing because your normal.

Dudess · 11-04-2012 08:07AM

Surely a satirical swipe at all the anti-benefits-no-matter-what mong threads? Wonder whether the OP will be agreed with? Probably will...

theg81der · 11-04-2012 08:09AM

What is wrong with you!!! Just because he doesn`t come to you and cry and moan doesn`t mean he isn`t suffering horrible symptoms you can`t see. And if you want those things go and work for them, he can`t do that and whose to say what he would have if he had your health. I`m delighted as a country that we look after the most vunerable in our society, that is how we should be judged. And so what if he goes to the pub - what would you do in his position? Maybe he`s depressed, maybe he wants peoples complany...does he have a partner - I`m sure thats not easy when you have MS.
You need to educated yourself about what happens to people with MS its not pleasant and I wouldn`t wish it on my worst enemy:mad:

AboutTwoFiddy · 11-04-2012 08:12AM

As far as I'm aware no such scheme exists. I think specially modified cars for people with a disability don't have to pay VRT on vehicles, but that's about it.

Zulu · 11-04-2012 08:13AM

A closed mind is an awful shame.

Is a brand new car required every two years?

Just because someone is very ill, doesn't mean we can't question logic. Assuming your cousin isn't on the road all day, mileage won't be too high. Couldn't a new car every 4 years suffice? Or a four year old car as opposed to a brand new one?
Funding saved by this could be pumped straight back into help MS sufferers in other less funded areas.

But I guess we shouldn't ever question what the government does when it comes to benefits (assuming this is all true, which I suspect it mightn't be)?

Joey the lips · 11-04-2012 08:17AM

Zulu wrote: »

A closed mind is an awful shame.

Is a brand new car required every two years?

Just because someone is very ill, doesn't mean we can't question logic. Assuming your cousin isn't on the road all day, mileage won't be too high. Couldn't a new car every 4 years suffice? Or a four year old car as opposed to a brand new one?
Funding saved by this could be pumped straight back into help MS sufferers in other less funded areas.

But I guess we shouldn't ever question what the government does when it comes to benefits (assuming this is all true, which I suspect it mightn't be)?

You pay for the car. You just get the VRT/VAT back. You also pay for the modification in somecases. You again get the VAT back.

You also get VRT/VAT back on fuel

The reason its every 2 years is because when the govt discussed this with experts from the motor industry and so forth then they realised it actually costs the car owner the least. Which considering most dont have it.

Again. A bit of knowledge and misunderstanding can truly be a dangerous and bitter thing,

Dudess · 11-04-2012 08:22AM

Zulu wrote: »

But I guess we shouldn't ever question what the government does when it comes to benefits (assuming this is all true, which I suspect it mightn't be)?

Course we should when a person doesn't have a disability.

bizmark · 11-04-2012 08:22AM

I dont get these fancy ass perks i just get constant pain and inablity to properly use my arm and leg

im clearly missing out on the high life here

Oh and believe me just because he doesnt tell you or even show what he goes through each day doesnt mean hes likely not going through issues i wouldnt tell my family anything about what i deal with every day as they wouldnt understand and would just be worried about something they can not change ...besides he has ms hes not i assume a social cripple and can see how much of a begrudeing little man you are why talk to you about anything or show any "weakness" or need ?

martingriff · 11-04-2012 08:27AM

RiseToTheTop wrote: »

I dunno what to say. He can get around the place without a wheelchair. He gets a free car of the state every 2 years, and this ain't no cheap model, its worth around €20,000. It is the latest year too, brand spankingly new. Completely free, every 2 years without fail.

He got a big massive vehicle for getting him around, despite him only using it for going to the pub. It is intended for people who can't walk, you could label it an electric wheelchair but this thing is more like a vehicle. It has it's own steering wheel, I say it cost by itself over €20,000. He uses it on the footpath as it isn't for the road, though it's much too big for the footpath IMO. He got a house from the state which would have been worth around €300,000 during the boomtime and he got a garage put in the side just for this vehicle/electric wheelchair.

I know it is extraordinary for a person to live for 30 years with MS, but he is looking well. As I said, he only uses the car/electric wheelchair to go to the pub, othertimes he uses a crutch. He walks without support to and from his car. He walks around his own house with no support. Thought ye feel this a bit too much though. as I said, over €20,000 IMO for the thing that gets him around, new car every 2 years. I'm certain he gets more than the standard disability allowance every week.

Bitter much I wonder.

AS far as the car is you are completly wrong it is not free the VAT/VRT is taken off only (Yes it is a bit of money) and it is every 2 minimum. As far of the house maybe he is geetting the council house like everyone gets a council house. The big massive vechicle you call it is a wheelchair. He has it more than likely as MS suffers tend to get tired very quickly if they have to walk long distances. As other posters said get a life

Mr Benevolent · 11-04-2012 08:27AM

OP, you're jealous of someone with a debilitating disease? A bit low, don't you think? Just because you're unemployed it doesn't stop people with disabilities needed government assistance. Oh and your relation does NOT get a free car. Do a bit of research before you come out with that crap.

token101 · 11-04-2012 08:28AM

I'm just digging out my pitchfork

danniemcq · 11-04-2012 08:29AM

well me thinks OP is blowing it out of proportion.

Mobility scooters are at max 5 grand really a quick look around online will show that. (most expensive i found is just under $5000) and although it might not be exact its a good guideline price.

On the topic of the car, i'm pretty sure they would be bought direct (do they have a garage sticker on the back window for example) like Garda Cars. Skipping the dealer and taxes that would be included in the whole process would drop the price too.

EDIT: i see mentioned in posts above that the car seems to be subsidised

A house worth 300 grand in the boom? Not a wile lot in fairness compared to other prices at that time.

I have no problem with this at all, i've had family and friends with MS and it is not something that you would wish on an enemy. You don't know the hard times that are ahead or even ones he is going through now. Are you with him 24/7? Could he maybe be putting on a brave face in front of family and friends. Not wanting them to see him suffer.

pickarooney · 11-04-2012 08:37AM

Joey the lips wrote: »

Again. A bit of knowledge and misunderstanding can truly be a dangerous and bitter thing,

Mitigated by the willingness to ask questions, nonetheless.

sunflower27 · 11-04-2012 08:45AM

just WOW!

My friend's brother has MS, he also has a young family and worries about the disease progressing quickly and him passing early.

I'd say he'd give up anything to not have that on his mind all the time.

Honestly OP, cop yourself on will you. A car is a car ffs.

Zulu · 11-04-2012 08:47AM

Joey the lips wrote: »

The reason its every 2 years is because when the govt discussed this with experts from the motor industry and so forth then they realised it actually costs the car owner the least. Which considering most dont have it.

Thanks for clearing that up Joey the lips; makes far more sense alright. Good to see they got something right!

Dudess wrote: »

Course we should when a person doesn't have a disability.

Sorry, but that's a complete nonsense. Disability or not, everything should be examined to make sure our limited resources are going to the most needy.

Renn · 11-04-2012 08:50AM

CorkMan

corktina · 11-04-2012 08:52AM

A close relative (VERY close) has just been diagonised with MS, i'd give my right arm to take on me instead of her, but I can't and THATS what the Welfare State is for.

OP I'm probably going to get banned if I say what I really think about you.

efb · 11-04-2012 08:52AM

Risetothetop your username is full of so much delicious irony it's ftw

MagicMarker · 11-04-2012 08:52AM

I knew I shouldn't have bought a mac.

AboutTwoFiddy · 11-04-2012 08:57AM

MagicMarker wrote: »

I knew I shouldn't have bought a mac.

I hear they're giving away free mac's to immigrants, and when the batter wears down they throw them away and get new ones off the state.

abouttobebanned · 11-04-2012 08:57AM

OP if you started this thread by talking about your cousin with MS who is neglected by the state and doesn't get enough help...all the thanked replies would be stuff like "what makes this man so special". "theres a lot in the same boat". Most people on boards are a bit thick. If they lived next door to your cousin they'd bitch about what he gets from the state etc....but it's your turn to be taken down a few pegs today. Sorry about that.

Gummy Panda · 11-04-2012 09:00AM

abouttobebanned wrote: »

OP if you started this thread by talking about your cousin with MS who is neglected by the state and doesn't get enough help...all the thanked replies would be stuff like "what makes this man so special". "theres a lot in the same boat". Most people on boards are a bit thick. If they lived next door to your cousin they'd bitch about what he gets from the state etc....but it's your turn to be taken down a few pegs today. Sorry about that.

Maybe it's just you?

11-04-2012 09:03AM

Dudess wrote: »

Surely a satirical swipe at all the anti-benefits-no-matter-what mong threads? Wonder whether the OP will be agreed with? Probably will...

Yeah I thought this was satire too

I have a cousin who has MS for almost 30 years, get all the perks

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