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Fukushima spent fuel pool over reactor 4 in danger of collapsing

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  • #32
    Statistician
    Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Statistician


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    Any chance of a more recent, less biased news source....even say the Daily Mail perhaps:eek:

    Some 'headlines' from the home page of that site;

    No, there is little chance of it.

    Mainstream media isn't reporting Fukushima any more. If you want news about the ongoing disaster, you'll have to read less well known websites.


  • #33
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I think I'm turning Japanese


  • #34
    frisbeeface
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭frisbeeface


    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NaturalNews

    I would be more likely to believe a news report from the Onion


  • #35
    krudler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    this is how Godzilla becomes real


  • #36
    Statistician
    Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Statistician


    frisbeeface wrote: »
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NaturalNews

    I would be more likely to believe a news report from the Onion

    So you do not believe that the fuel pool is in danger of collapse?

    What condition is Fukushima in then? - everything going fine is it?


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  • #37
    frisbeeface
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭frisbeeface


    Statistician wrote: »
    So you do not believe that the fuel pool is in danger of collapse?

    What condition is Fukushima in then? - everything going fine is it?

    Don't remember saying anything like that.


  • #38
    Statistician
    Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Statistician


    frisbeeface wrote: »
    Don't remember saying anything like that.
    You are calling into doubt the news sources, are you not?
    So, do you have better information?


  • #39
    cocoshovel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭cocoshovel


    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/r/movie/index.html

    lets see if they have anything to say about it.


  • #40
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,334 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Statistician wrote: »
    frisbeeface wrote: »
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NaturalNews

    I would be more likely to believe a news report from the Onion

    So you do not believe that the fuel pool is in danger of collapse?

    What condition is Fukushima in then? - everything going fine is it?

    Ah sure it will be grand! Go on and have a cup of tea?


  • #41
    Corkfeen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    Statistician wrote: »
    No, there is little chance of it.

    Mainstream media isn't reporting Fukushima any more. If you want news about the ongoing disaster, you'll have to read less well known websites.

    I did a little bit more research on these so called less well known sites that generate this paranoia. One of the first sites that cropped up was Alex Jones' Prisonplanet so I would hazard the guess that it is absolute rubbish as this news is only supported by conspiracy sites, other headlines on Prisonplanet include 'The globalists have kept us from having kids'. This isn't news sites ignoring the news, its conspiratorial minds exaggerating the news.


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  • #42
    Run_to_da_hills
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    Statistician wrote: »
    It might be a better idea to rename this thread:

    "Fukushima spent fuel pool in danger of collapsing"
    instead of
    "Fukushima 4 reactor cooling tower in danger of collapsing."

    I understand that it is cooling the fuel, but people generally imagine those large cooling towers used to cool the water from the reactors when they read that.
    This is more like a huge swimming pool.
    The cooling pool lies directly over the reactor, probably to facilitate gantry cranes to remove, exchange and store spent fuel rods. One of the biggest problems of dealing with spent rods is the expense and safety concerns of removing them and this is probably the main reason why so many of them were allowed to build up to such a dangerous level.

    This diagram would give people a good idea to the layout of the reactor and overhead cooling pools.

    http://i44.tinypic.com/16i5hg9.jpg


  • #43
    Statistician
    Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Statistician


    Corkfeen wrote: »
    I did a little bit more research on these so called less well known sites that generate this paranoia. One of the first sites that cropped up was Alex Jones' Prisonplanet so I would hazard the guess that it is absolute rubbish as this news is only supported by conspiracy sites, other headlines on Prisonplanet include 'The globalists have kept us from having kids'. This isn't news sites ignoring the news, its conspiratorial minds exaggerating the news.

    You're not telling us what is really happening at Fukushima.
    Either the fuel pool is in danger of collapsing, or it is not.

    Even the BBC reported the low water level story:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17533398


  • #44
    SeanW
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,728 ✭✭✭SeanW


    Meanwhile, for all the scaremongering, the accident at Fukushima has only killed two people - crane operators who died when their crane collapsed as a direct result of the earthquake.

    https://u24.gov.ua/
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  • #45
    micropig
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ah sure it will be grand! Go on and have a cup of tea?

    Kettle's on, I've some nice iodine biscuits here too:P


  • #46
    Statistician
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    SeanW wrote: »
    Meanwhile, for all the scaremongering, the accident at Fukushima has only killed two people - crane operators who died when their crane collapsed as a direct result of the earthquake.

    Unless you are talking about acute radiation sickness, it does not work that way. People just don't walk into the exclusion zone and drop dead.

    What has happened here is that the land and sea is contaminated. When this contamination enters the human body it can create adverse health effects. Some of these effects are not evident until many years after exposure.


  • #47
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Manic Moran wrote: »
    Probably don't need any. Their nuclear plant experts are as good as anyone else out there.

    And also probably the least likely of any nationality, to ever ask for any help.


  • #48
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Statistician wrote: »
    You're not telling us what is really happening at Fukushima.

    But this one, unsubstantiated report, is?

    Get out.


  • #49
    Statistician
    Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Statistician


    hooradiation wrote: »
    But this one, unsubstantiated report, is?

    Get out.

    There are lots of reports about the spent fuel pool of reactor 4. There are even youtube videos and pictures that show a significant list to the building.

    Which part of the report do you doubt? Do you believe that the report is fabricated? or is it something else you have a problem with?

    This fuel pool has been a concern right from the start of the crisis.


  • #50
    Icepick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Icepick


    Surely a tin foil hat is all you need, OP.


  • #51
    Statistician
    Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Statistician


    Do some people believe that everything at Fukushima is going along fine? There is no concern for alarm?

    Why the comments about tin foil hats, etc?


    Were people posting stuff about conspiracy theories and tin foil hats when the BP blowout happened?


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  • #52
    youtube!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭youtube!


    I think its just that people really dont want to believe,classic human trait of burying head in sand.


  • #53
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Statistician wrote: »
    Which part of the report do you doubt? Do you believe that the report is fabricated? or is it something else you have a problem with?

    All of it.
    And unless you'd like to provide some more corroborating reports for the actual story in the OP (and not, as you tried earlier to prove a small fraction of what is being claimed is true) then I'm going to file it under "made up nonsense".

    I suggest you do the same.


  • #54
    Somnus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Somnus


    youtube! wrote: »
    I think its just that people really dont want to believe,classic human trait of burying head in sand.

    I think it's hard to trust a lot of reporting on the subject though.

    I would be a supporter of nuclear energy, and as such I feel that there is a lot of negative press associated with it.
    So when I hear stuff like this, obviously I want to know the truth about how serious it is, but I can't help but be cynical and think it's being sensationalised to an extent.

    I guess my point is: What sources can you trust?
    Anti-nuclear individuals will put their spin on it, and pro-nuclear individuals could easily underplay the seriousness.


  • #55
    teednab-el
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    The Japanese are such sneaky pri*ks. This is all a cover up and I fear that the situation is worse than what we think it is. Jesus I thought the Russians were bad. Typical Japanese letting us know nothing.


  • #56
    Francie Barrett
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    OP has the most appropriate username - don't you all think :)


  • #57
    youtube!
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    teednab-el wrote: »
    The Japanese are such sneaky pri*ks. This is all a cover up and I fear that the situation is worse than what we think it is. Jesus I thought the Russians were bad. Typical Japanese letting us know nothing.


    Proud nation + Kamikaze attitude+ earthquake zone+ nuclear reactors+ under reporting = rest of world in deep ****. I dont like this one bit,they have been playing it down since day one.


  • #58
    Canis Lupus
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    OP pretty much predicted the end of the world when the accident first happened. Good to see he still hasn't stopped hoping for it.


  • #59
    SeanW
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,728 ✭✭✭SeanW


    teednab-el wrote: »
    The Japanese are such sneaky pri*ks. This is all a cover up and I fear that the situation is worse than what we think it is. Jesus I thought the Russians were bad. Typical Japanese letting us know nothing.
    youtube! wrote: »
    Proud nation + Kamikaze attitude+ earthquake zone+ nuclear reactors+ under reporting = rest of world in deep ****. I dont like this one bit,they have been playing it down since day one.
    I presume both of these posts are a piss-take. If not, compare the amount of information that was available after both the Chernobyl and Fukushima accidents.

    1. After Chernobyl, the Soviets did try to hide the seriousness of the accident from the outside world. This is a fact. However, radiation from the disaster was detected in Sweden from routine monitoring of its nuclear power plants, and when it was found that lots of radiation was coming from the Soviet Union, the Americans redirected their spy satellites to see what was going on. The world knew reasonably well what was going on, even though the Soviet government did their best to hide the whole thing from the world.
    2. After Fukushima, the Japanese government made no secret of what was going on there, they immediately gave the accident a rating on the INES scale which they later upgraded to Level 7 (major accident). Japan is an open country and I have little doubt that people from all over the world are studying this, many perhaps on a desk-research basis. Japan is an open country with a free press and there is no evidence that they've tried to hide anything.

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  • #60
    Alice_Banned
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    No sign of Godzilla yet?


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  • #61
    RichieC
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    Statistician wrote: »
    Do some people believe that everything at Fukushima is going along fine? There is no concern for alarm?

    Why the comments about tin foil hats, etc?


    Were people posting stuff about conspiracy theories and tin foil hats when the BP blowout happened?

    Unfortunately, yes. The potential bad effects from Fukushima are so bad that any person of perceived authority saying it is all right will be believed and anyone trying to warn of the potential dangers will be told to fk off back to the CT forum.


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