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Mankind "groping in the darkness"

  • 08-04-2012 10:48AM
    #1
    dsmythy
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17649521

    In his Easter address the Pope has said that mankind is "groping in the darkness, unable to distinguish good from evil".

    Here's me thinking it was just his priests doing that......


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  • #2
    El Weirdo
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    dsmythy wrote: »
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17649521

    In his Easter address the Pope ...blah, blah, blah, blah...
    MEH.


  • #3
    AngryBollix
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    Another highly original thread


  • #4
    Caraville
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    I think OP just started a thread cos he thought he had made a funny. He didn't. Yawn.


  • #5
    senorwipesalot
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    Its more of a fumble in his underpants.


  • #6
    kylith
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    dsmythy wrote: »
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17649521

    In his Easter address the Pope has said that mankind is "groping in the darkness, unable to distinguish good from evil".

    Here's me thinking it was just his priests doing that......
    He might not be able to but, me, I'm fairly sure of the morality of hoarding billions of euro in wealth while half the world starves to death.


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  • #7
    Immaculate Pasta
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    The Pope is blatantly on the wind up and you just fell for it :cool:


  • #8
    DrumSteve
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    AngryBollix wrote: »
    Another highly original thread
    Caraville wrote: »
    I think OP just started a thread cos he thought he had made a funny. He didn't. Yawn.

    This Bull**** annoys me.


    Almost as much as the Pope does.


  • #9
    Liana Numerous Signpost
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    interesting that he admits he doesn't know the difference between good and evil


  • #10
    Deus Ex Machina
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    Shît joke, boring premise.


  • #11
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    When Ratzinger dies later this year I have it on good authority that Vatican 3 is coming. Sweeping changes in our lifetime folks.


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  • #12
    DrumSteve
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    interesting that he admits he doesn't know the difference between good and evil

    If he knew the difference he would probably disband the church.


  • #13
    DrumSteve
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    When Ratzinger dies later this year I have it on good authority that Vatican 3 is coming. Sweeping changes in our lifetime folks.

    This time it's personal.


  • #14
    Wild Bill
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    interesting that he admits he doesn't know the difference between good and evil

    Is there any? It's obviously true that "mankind groping in the darkness.

    I'm just surprised it's also obvious to the Pope.

    That's a shocker from someone who traditionally claimed to have the inside track on the truth :eek:!


  • #15
    44leto
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    AngryBollix wrote: »
    Another highly original thread

    The OP did come up with an original and witty response or riposte to groping in the dark.

    The Church, what a beacon for human rights. Well no. They were the "moral power" from the fourth ? century right up to 19th century to the rise of secularism. After that all they had with-in the powers was nagging rights.

    So lets look at the moral causes they championed in that period of that 15 hundred years. Was it slavery, judicial torture, the death penalty, cruel and unusual punishments, injustice, poverty, children's rights, women's rights, democratic rights, animal rights or even basic human rights, did they tackle any moral issue facing society.

    The answer is a plain big NO.

    What addressed the above was the enlightenment then secularism and democracy. All of a sudden your time on Earth mattered more then your time in death.

    The church and organised religion is a very negative force for humanity, they kept us groping in the dark. Their power is waning further in western Europe and good riddance.


  • #16
    My name is URL
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    Feck off, Pope


  • #17
    Caraville
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    DrumSteve wrote: »
    AngryBollix wrote: »
    Another highly original thread
    Caraville wrote: »
    I think OP just started a thread cos he thought he had made a funny. He didn't. Yawn.

    This Bull**** annoys me.


    Almost as much as the Pope does.

    Fair enough, it's just this topic comes up a lot here, and there are other areas on boards where they can be discussed. I'm not a fan of the pope myself so it wasn't a way of defending him, just a way of saying "not this here again".

    Anyhoo, carry on those if ye who want to discuss it, I'm off to gorge on an Easter egg


  • #18
    Kidchameleon
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    44leto wrote: »
    The OP did come up with an original and witty response or riposte to groping in the dark.

    The Church, what a beacon for human rights. Well no. They were the "moral power" from the fourth ? century right up to 19th century to the rise of secularism. After that all they had with-in the powers was nagging rights.

    So lets look at the moral causes they championed in that period of that 15 hundred years. Was it slavery, judicial torture, the death penalty, cruel and unusual punishments, injustice, poverty, children's rights, women's rights, democratic rights, animal rights or even basic human rights, did they tackle any moral issue facing society.

    The answer is a plain big NO.

    What addressed the above was the enlightenment then secularism and democracy. All of a sudden your time on Earth mattered more then your time in death.

    The church and organised religion is a very negative force for humanity, they kept us groping in the dark. Their power is waning further in western Europe and good riddance.


    I'm glad you specified it was the church. Allot of people on here seem to think that believing in God means you follow the church. God, Jesus could not be more removed from the church.

    F**k the pope, and f**k the one before him.


  • #19
    Pherekydes
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    interesting that he admits he doesn't know the difference between good and evil


    Pffft, he's not part of mankind.

    In other news, he clears the way for catholics to leave the church:
    In his Easter message, Cardinal O'Brien is expected to refer to remarks made by Pope Benedict XVI in 2010 that Christians "need to be free to act in accordance with their own principles".


  • #20
    Logical Fallacy
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    DrumSteve wrote: »
    This time it's biblical.

    fyp


  • #21
    the groutch
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    better be careful what he says, or he might get a visit from Mr Socko

    http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m08lic64WW1qzjkt8o1_400.jpg


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  • #22
    WoollyRedHat
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    the groutch wrote: »
    better be careful what he says, or he might get a visit from Mr Socko

    http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m08lic64WW1qzjkt8o1_400.jpg

    My God, that sock has a menacing face, wouldn't like to run into that in a dark laundrette.


  • #23
    ejmaztec
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    It's good that he sympathises with people who can't afford to pay their ESB bills.


  • #24
    Dyr
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    DrumSteve wrote: »
    This time it's personal.

    Just when you thought it was safe to go back into mass...


  • #25
    Flojo
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    the groutch wrote: »
    better be careful what he says, or he might get a visit from Mr Socko

    http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m08lic64WW1qzjkt8o1_400.jpg

    Mick Foley = god.


  • #26
    Dyr
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    44leto wrote: »
    The OP did come up with an original and witty response or riposte to groping in the dark.

    The Church, what a beacon for human rights. Well no. They were the "moral power" from the fourth ? century right up to 19th century to the rise of secularism. After that all they had with-in the powers was nagging rights.

    So lets look at the moral causes they championed in that period of that 15 hundred years. Was it slavery, judicial torture, the death penalty, cruel and unusual punishments, injustice, poverty, children's rights, women's rights, democratic rights, animal rights or even basic human rights, did they tackle any moral issue facing society.

    The answer is a plain big NO.

    What addressed the above was the enlightenment then secularism and democracy. All of a sudden your time on Earth mattered more then your time in death.

    The church and organised religion is a very negative force for humanity, they kept us groping in the dark. Their power is waning further in western Europe and good riddance.

    pretty sure the catholics were vocally against slavery, torture etc


  • #27
    Liana Numerous Signpost
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    Bambi wrote: »
    pretty sure the catholics were vocally against slavery, torture etc

    eh you must be joking


  • #28
    later12
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    Did anyone hear Fr Colm Kilcoyne on RTE Radio 1 last night talking to Marian Finucane?
    It must have been a repeat of a show earlier yesterday.

    It was so refreshing (and indeed reassuring) to hear someone in the Roman Catholic clergy speak liberally of a liberal faith, including the ordination of women, homosexuality, celibacy, and disillusionment with the Church leadership.

    While reassuring, it's also sad that there are good men who have given their whole lives to that Church, and have been so horribly let down by their peers and their institution, that which Enda Kenny called "the gimlet eye of the canon lawyer".

    What was really surprising were some of the negative comments that followed his interview, particularly a couple expressing anger at his criticisms of the Pope asking "where is [the priest's] humility?". Sometimes I really wonder about people.


  • #29
    44leto
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    Bambi wrote: »
    pretty sure the catholics were vocally against slavery, torture etc

    Individually maybe but the church, never, in most cases they supported the institutions. It was never the Catholic church that supported a ban on witch burnings, but a ban came from the individual national legislature. Also I take it you heard of the Spanish inquisition.

    The only active moral campaigns they ever support are those against abortion, homosexuality, divorce and only recently paedophilia. Anything to do with sex.


  • #30
    Latchy
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    Good post
    44leto wrote: »
    The OP did come up with an original and witty response or riposte to groping in the dark.

    The Church, what a beacon for human rights. Well no. They were the "moral power" from the fourth ? century right up to 19th century to the rise of secularism. After that all they had with-in the powers was nagging rights.

    So lets look at the moral causes they championed in that period of that 15 hundred years. Was it slavery, judicial torture, the death penalty, cruel and unusual punishments, injustice, poverty, children's rights, women's rights, democratic rights, animal rights or even basic human rights, did they tackle any moral issue facing society.

    The answer is a plain big NO.

    What addressed the above was the enlightenment then secularism and democracy. All of a sudden your time on Earth mattered more then your time in death.

    The church and organised religion is a very negative force for humanity, they kept us groping in the dark. Their power is waning further in western Europe and good riddance.
    Or the absurdity of war .For an institution who's mantra is all about world peace , when did you ever see a bunch of bishops or priests protesting outside the embassys of countrys who send thousends of soldiers to their deaths as well as the killing of thousends of civillians ? Preaching from the pulpit is the easy and soft way out .


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  • #31
    lividduck
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    Bambi wrote: »
    pretty sure the catholics were vocally against slavery, torture etc
    Too right, those nice Catholics didn't have an Inquisition and torture/maim/burn alive heretics, Jews etc.
    And they certainly had nothing to do with Magdelene Laundries,reform schools etc.
    In fact Catholics vocally oppossed them....Didn't they?


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