How Bored of the Titanic Are You?

DEFTLEFTHAND · 08-04-2012 01:16AM

KeithAFC wrote: »

It was a great example of Ulster work ethic at that time. It should rightly be celebrated.

The Ulster ship work was brought up during the accident investigation. Apparently certain bolts weren't fitted properly, maybe Northern Irish incompetence sunk the Dam ship.

Archeron · 08-04-2012 01:17AM

Did anyone else read the thread title in a Yoda voice?

Mr Benevolent · 08-04-2012 01:18AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

The Ulster ship work was brought up during the accident investigation. Apparently certain bolts weren't fitted properly, maybe Northern Irish incompetence sunk the Dam ship.

And if it was built in Dublin it'd still be afloat, right?

Anyway, who gives a crap, there have been far worse maritime disasters. The Titanic was just the first in a long series.

MV Doña Paz
SS Kiangya
MV Le Joola

The list goes on and on and on.

M cebee · 08-04-2012 01:26AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

The Ulster ship work was brought up during the accident investigation. Apparently certain bolts weren't fitted properly, maybe Northern Irish incompetence sunk the Dam ship.

on the program i saw today

they said it was the cheap metal specified for the rivets to blame-not the workers

LilyCricket · 08-04-2012 01:28AM

M cebee wrote: »

on the program i saw today

they said it was the cheap metal specified for the rivets to blame-not the workers

true

I've heard this mentioned on a number of different docs

Old Tom · 08-04-2012 01:34AM

mike65 wrote: »

Seriously just go and ****ing sink will ya! (whadyoumeanitsank?) Everywhere I look, listen and read its the ****ing Titanic, while I applaud the Nordies for their genius for turning a world famous disaster that killed 1500 people into a money spinner I have just about had it up to the top of my bulkhead with all the BS about this boat, right now on RTE radio they are discussing the posh 8 course meals eaten on board which is going to be recreated at Kingstown Harbour Yacht Club‎! (yes seriously)

I dont hear about Titanic anymore because I dont give a sh1t about it.
Stop giving sh1t yourself, life will be easier.

M cebee · 08-04-2012 01:35AM

not to mention the fact that the captain sailed full steam ahead despite iceberg
warnings

and steered the ship sideways into the iceberg

kind of foolish

DEFTLEFTHAND · 08-04-2012 01:39AM

M cebee wrote: »

on the program i saw today

they said it was the cheap metal specified for the rivets to blame-not the workers

Rubbish!

LilyCricket · 08-04-2012 01:42AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Rubbish!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/15/science/15titanic.html?pagewanted=all

Naomi00 · 08-04-2012 01:43AM

Bored of 9/11 for ages, not bored of Titanic yet, it's not annoying tbh

Chuck Stone · 08-04-2012 01:45AM

M cebee wrote: »

on the program i saw today they said it was the cheap metal specified for the rivets to blame-not the workers

Ah yes. The 'no true Ulster Scotsman' defence.

:pac:

Sunnyisland · 08-04-2012 01:56AM

Write 4 sentences about the titanic....

It was a ship,
They said it was the best built ship ever,
It wasn't,
It sank.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 08-04-2012 02:56AM

LilyCricket wrote: »

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/15/science/15titanic.html?pagewanted=all

Absolute balderdash. Do you realize that Olympic was brought to dry dock less than a week after the sinking and it was discovered that she also was containing faulty rivet work, the blame lies with the shipyard and its Ulster employees. Hence Harland and Wolff died a death afterwards.

lg123 · 08-04-2012 03:19AM

bigneacy wrote: »

...... if the titanic had of been built in ireland our govt.....

...would have paid for my geography grinds...

DEFTLEFTHAND · 08-04-2012 03:21AM

LilyCricket wrote: »

isnt it a shame they were not running the show so.

Don't get smart with me ok. it's a shame they weren't running things, maybe if the Ships officers were more component this most awful maritime tragedy would never have happened. Believe me it was negligence from her masters that caused this before Harland and Wolff's horrid botch job.

vicwatson · 08-04-2012 03:22AM

Once more...I thankfully didn't open the door... and relevant or not, i think, My heart will go on.. Hopefully.

marienbad · 08-04-2012 03:25AM

When ever I hear Titanic I get a sinking feeling.

vicwatson · 08-04-2012 03:28AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Don't get smart with me ok. it's a shame they weren't running things, maybe if the Ships officers were more component this most awful maritime tragedy would never have happened. Believe me it was negligence from her masters that caused this before Harland and Wolff's horrid botch job.

In fairness it's not the world's worst tragedy ever.... think MV Estonia, not the most amount of lives lost but certainly the most amount of lives that should have/could have been saved?

There is too much an element of romance/tragedy combined with this submergence.

In 1912 navigation was relativey poor.

psychward · 08-04-2012 03:28AM

I'm sick of it too. It's like reading a book once or even twice, not wanting to read it again and then having an irritating narrator following you around Monty Python style reading it outloud over and over. I guess at least it puts Ireland on the map (yet again)but even the movie probably had fu(k all connection with what actually happened. The notion that somebody painted a naked picture of a Kate Winslet lookalike before rogering her and then drowning is purely speculative (apart from the likelihood of drowning).

DEFTLEFTHAND · 08-04-2012 03:40AM

vicwatson wrote: »

In fairness it's not the world's worst tragedy ever.... think MV Estonia, not the most amount of lives lost but certainly the most amount of lives that should have/could have been saved?

There is too much an element of romance/tragedy combined with this submergence.

In 1912 navigation was relativey poor.

No navigation was not poor, seamanship is an ancient art form and it was certainly perfected by 1912, hundreds of ships sailed the Atlantic weekly who were in constant communication through morse code. Modern technology as we know it today was non existent.

MV Estonia was a brutal tragedy caused by ill preparation, Brutal sea conditions and utter incompetence from the newly free'd soviet state's crew.

ilovesleep · 08-04-2012 03:46AM

Did anyone see the movie in 3D yet? If yes, how was the movie? I'm eager to see it in 3D.

psychward · 08-04-2012 03:48AM

ilovesleep wrote: »

Did anyone see the movie in 3D yet? If yes, how was the movie? I'm eager to see it in 3D.

The ship sinks and quite a few people drown

ilovesleep · 08-04-2012 03:52AM

psychward wrote: »

The ship sinks and quite a few people drown

Well I know that. But how is the movie in 3D?

vicwatson · 08-04-2012 03:55AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

No navigation was not poor, seamanship is an ancient art form and it was certainly perfected by 1912, hundreds of ships sailed the Atlantic weekly who were in constant communication through morse code. Modern technology as we know it today was non existent.

MV Estonia was a brutal tragedy caused by ill preparation, Brutal sea conditions and utter incompetence from the newly free'd soviet state's crew.

I did say relatively poor.

Napper Hawkins · 08-04-2012 04:05AM

A ship sank once. Don't care. Can't wait until Celine Dion dies. Yay!

Paulie Gualtieri · 08-04-2012 04:07AM

very bored , its a load of crap , a fella I know got dragged to titanic 3d , and said it was complete rubbish , said the waves at the end were the only good thing,

I think theres a part of Irish culture where we just have to hang on to the doom and gloom,

people of the titanic R.I.P ,

lets all leave it at that.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 08-04-2012 04:27AM

vicwatson wrote: »

I did say relatively poor.

You did say that and I apologise if I came at you a bit full on, I'm just very passionate about exposing the two main factors that sunk Titanic, poor seamanship and bad construction..

DEFTLEFTHAND · 08-04-2012 05:25AM

Jammy Donut wrote: »

How true is this?

It's very true unfortunately. They panicked on the bridge and the chief officer called for the port around. In hindsight a head on collision was the better option

Cookie_Monster · 08-04-2012 06:29AM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Belfast can be proud that it built the most famous ship in history. Well that and HMS Duke of Wellington.

:pac:

Cutty Sark, Endevour, The Bounty, Enterprise, Arizona, Bismark etc etc Hardly the most famous ship ever, possibly the most famous wreck and probably not even then due to the Arizona which is far far more touristy. Not even close to the all time casualty list either which falls to the MV Wilhelm Gustloff at 9,000+

(not to mention it was actually the Olympic that sank

)

DEFTLEFTHAND · 08-04-2012 06:46AM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

:pac:

Cutty Sark, Endevour, The Bounty, Enterprise, Arizona, Bismark etc etc Hardly the most famous ship ever, possibly the most famous wreck and probably not even then due to the Arizona which is far far more touristy. Not even close to the all time casualty list either which falls to the MV Wilhelm Gustloff at 9,000+

(not to mention it was actually the Olympic that sank )

Your last point is interesting Cookie Monster, I've heard the rumour before that Titanic wasn't completed on time and so Olympic sailed in her place. It's perfectly plausible to me since both ships were manned by the cowboy White Star Line and were structurally unsound.

How Bored of the Titanic Are You?

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