Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

3hn2givr7mx1sc · 07-04-2012 05:43PM

Copper_pipe wrote: »

or liverpool

No we're not allowed to have any banter at Liverpool's constant failure because we're obsessed or something.

RiseToTheTop · 07-04-2012 05:56PM

Bring back O' Shea!!

stesaurus · 07-04-2012 06:23PM

Thread is painful to read. Pages and pages of biscuit pictures.
Thought id stumbled into after hours.

So match tomorrow? I reckon we might struggle and end up with a draw. I think Arsenal might do us a favour though, City look defeated at moment.

Blatter · 07-04-2012 06:27PM

s.welstead wrote: »

Thread is painful to read. Pages and pages of biscuit pictures.
Thought id stumbled into after hours.

So match tomorrow? I reckon we might struggle and end up with a draw. I think Arsenal might do us a favour though, City look defeated at moment.

Why do you think we might struggle?

QPR have 2 points out of their last 9 away games. They've got a couple of good results at home lately but they're still gash.

IvySlayer · 07-04-2012 06:29PM

Do you reckon Fergie will rest Scholes tomorrow and keep him fresh for Wednesday?

Blatter · 07-04-2012 06:31PM

I do. And probably along with Ferdinand.

Wigan away on Wednesday will be a much tougher game, and he won't play Scholes in both.

stesaurus · 07-04-2012 06:43PM

Blatter wrote: »

s.welstead wrote: »

Thread is painful to read. Pages and pages of biscuit pictures.
Thought id stumbled into after hours.

So match tomorrow? I reckon we might struggle and end up with a draw. I think Arsenal might do us a favour though, City look defeated at moment.

Why do you think we might struggle?

QPR have 2 points out of their last 9 away games. They've got a couple of good results at home lately but they're still gash.

Just a feeling I get. They played well against Arsenal and seemed to click a little compared to recent weeks.
Utd controlled things pretty well against Blackburn but lacked some invention in the final 3rd. I don't think you can keep relying on power and pace to break teams down. Cleverly should play in alongside Scholes and Carrick.

Will I Amnt · 07-04-2012 06:44PM

I think we will get a narrow win tomorrow.
Probably get the job done and no more,I actually prefer when we play away now,some of the home performances have been fairly painful viewing lately.

MagicMarker · 07-04-2012 06:45PM

s.welstead wrote: »

Just a feeling I get. They played well against Arsenal and seemed to click a little compared to recent weeks.
Utd controlled things pretty well against Blackburn but lacked some invention in the final 3rd. I don't think you can keep relying on power and pace to break teams down. Cleverly should play in alongside Scholes and Carrick.

You think we should play 451 at home against QPR?

Blatter · 07-04-2012 06:49PM

s.welstead wrote: »

Just a feeling I get. They played well against Arsenal and seemed to click a little compared to recent weeks.
Utd controlled things pretty well against Blackburn but lacked some invention in the final 3rd. I don't think you can keep relying on power and pace to break teams down. Cleverly should play in alongside Scholes and Carrick.

We should be creating chances much easier against the likes of QPR at OT. Blackburn away was always going to be a tough fixture, I wouldn't compare the two.

I don't see the need to go three in the middle tomorrow, QPR would love that. Carrick plus one of Scholes, Giggs or Cleverley with Rooney and Welbeck up front. Tony V and Young out on the wings.

We should win comfortably as long as they apply themselves correctly and not mess around like we did against Fulham.

stesaurus · 07-04-2012 06:58PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

s.welstead wrote: »

Just a feeling I get. They played well against Arsenal and seemed to click a little compared to recent weeks.
Utd controlled things pretty well against Blackburn but lacked some invention in the final 3rd. I don't think you can keep relying on power and pace to break teams down. Cleverly should play in alongside Scholes and Carrick.

You think we should play 451 at home against QPR?

No Id play Welbeck and Valencia as wide forwards with Rooney up top.

stesaurus · 07-04-2012 07:04PM

Blatter wrote: »

We should win comfortably as long as they apply themselves correctly and not mess around like we did against Fulham.

See i think that could be the case. Pressure is off somewhat and they might just take their foot off the gas.

Hopefully Im wrong and we can work off the rest of that goal difference with a comfie home win.

Blatter · 07-04-2012 07:07PM

IMO any complacency will be drilled out of the players by SAF, I think Fulham a couple of weeks ago was a wake up call as to what can happen.

Hopefully we can get an early goal because that usually makes all the difference.

stesaurus · 07-04-2012 07:27PM

Blatter wrote: »

IMO any complacency will be drilled out of the players by SAF, I think Fulham a couple of weeks ago was a wake up call as to what can happen.

Hopefully we can get an early goal because that usually makes all the difference.

Just like our lack of complacency in Europe. :-)

I actually don't like us scoring too early. we tend to sit back on an early lead and it causes problems.

kryogen · 07-04-2012 08:06PM

i think tomorrow will be ok as long as Fergie doesnt get a bit crazy with team selection, get the job done then rest players if needed.

Rio can be rested alright as long as Smalling is fit, then I want Scholes and Carrick in the middle, Valencia and Young/Nani. Rooney and Welbeck.

If the game is comfortable at the hour mark get Scholes off to give him a break, playing early Sunday and late Wednesday honestly shouldnt be that much of a reach for him especially if he is given a bit of time off at the end of the game.

It isnt the time to take chances with teams, it is the time to be ruthless, get the goals in the back of the net and then think about resting players. We are not in any other competitions this season so the squad in general should be a lot fresher then usual at this time of the season.

The_Kew_Tour · 07-04-2012 08:10PM

kryogen wrote: »

It isnt the time to take chances with teams, it is the time to be ruthless, get the goals in the back of the net and then think about resting players. We are not in any other competitions this season so the squad in general should be a lot fresher then usual at this time of the season.

this.

Paul Tergat · 07-04-2012 08:14PM

In a way the injuries to a lot of our midfielders should help us now. Its not like either of Young, Nani or Val have played the full season so we can leave players in and not have to rotate. We have to trust that Fergie knows what he is doing whoever he selects though

Mitch Connor · 07-04-2012 08:16PM

kryogen wrote: »

It isnt the time to take chances with teams, it is the time to be ruthless, get the goals in the back of the net and then think about resting players. We are not in any other competitions this season so the squad in general should be a lot fresher then usual at this time of the season.

I agree with you - but Fergie said on Friday that with 3 games in a week, we are going to have to use our squad - so you can be CERTAIN that there are going to be some infuriating selections over the next 3 games. Hopefully it doesn't cost us.

The_Kew_Tour · 07-04-2012 08:18PM

Paul Tergat wrote: »

In a way the injuries to a lot of our midfielders should help us now. Its not like either of Young, Nani or Val have played the full season so we can leave players in and not have to rotate. We have to trust that Fergie knows what he is doing whoever he selects though

Think your spot on with this.

Most of players have been out injured for some point since January and with no other competitions to worry about, there really is no excuses from now on.

ROCKMAN · 07-04-2012 08:31PM

Anyone know if Wednesdays Wigan game is on TV ,
Sky have a live football special listed by no details ...

Mars Bar · 07-04-2012 08:32PM

ROCKMAN wrote: »

Anyone know if Wednesdays Wigan game is on TV ,
Sky have a live football special listed by no details ...

No, don't think it is. I think I remember seeing a local pub saying they have it but it's not on regular television.

Mitch Connor · 07-04-2012 08:34PM

ROCKMAN wrote: »

Anyone know if Wednesdays Wigan game is on TV ,
Sky have a live football special listed by no details ...

it is not on tv according to ManUtd.com. QPR vs Swansea is the Sky game, Juventus vs someone else is the game on ESPN.

Blatter · 07-04-2012 08:40PM

What I'd do for tomorrow is pick;

de Gea

Rafael

Smalling

Evans

Evra
Valencia----Carrick

Giggs

Young

Rooney

Welbeck

Then give Nani half an hour for Valencia (if we're comfortable, Young if the game is still in the balance) and Fabio for Evra also if we're comfortable, and/or Pogba/Cleverley for Carrick.

Then for Wigan I'd pick;

de Gea

Rafael

Evans

Ferdinand

Evra
Valencia

Carrick

Scholes

Nani

Rooney

Hernandez

4 changes between the two games that shouldn't disrupt the team too much and keep them fresh.

The_Kew_Tour · 07-04-2012 08:51PM

Blatter wrote: »

Then give Nani half an hour for Valencia (if we're comfortable, Young if the game is still in the balance) and Fabio for Evra also if we're comfortable, and/or Pogba/Cleverley for Carrick.

4 changes between the two games that shouldn't disrupt the team too much and keep them fresh.

Like your thinking there. Only thing I might change would be swapping Chico for QPR game and Welbeck for Wigan.

People seem be talking sense tonight.:D

Blatter · 07-04-2012 09:37PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Like your thinking there. Only thing I might change would be swapping Chico for QPR game and Welbeck for Wigan.

People seem be talking sense tonight.:D

Nah, I'd play Welbeck v QPR for a couple of reasons.

1. QPR will park the bus so we will have to be patient and keep the ball moving. We all know Welbeck is much better at this as with Hernandez an awful lot of our moves break down because of his average build up play. Welbeck also didn't start the last game, so should be fresher.

2. Wigan generally play with a higher line, especially at home and will have a go at us. This suits Hernandez' game much better as he'll find it easier to run in behind them. He scored twice away to them last season as a result of this.

Shy_Dave! · 07-04-2012 10:12PM

Y'all will just say to me 'not another winger!'...
What would you think of selling Park & Berbatov for say 18m and replace them with Hoilett on a free from Blackburn.
He can play as a second-striker and winger, and has the pace that the team is being shaped towards.
He isn't top quality yet, but would make a good squad player. Then spend the cash on a central midfielder.

Will I Amnt · 07-04-2012 10:20PM

Shy_Dave! wrote: »

Y'all will just say to me 'not another winger!'...
What would you think of selling Park & Berbatov for say 18m and replace them with Hoilett on a free from Blackburn.
He can play as a second-striker and winger, and has the pace that the team is being shaped towards.
He isn't top quality yet, but would make a good squad player. Then spend the cash on a central midfielder.

I'm a fan of Hoilett.Up there with the best young talent in the EPL at the moment.
I'd like to see him at United but only if we have a CM coming in with him.I'll do my nut if we sign a winger and no CM.

I had a dream the other night he signed for Barca and ran amok against us,I woke up thinking he was a bit of a bollox but by the end of the match I was playing meself and it was in Tesco carpark :rolleyes:

G.K. · 07-04-2012 10:21PM

Shy_Dave! wrote: »

Y'all will just say to me 'not another winger!'...
What would you think of selling Park & Berbatov for say 18m and replace them with Hoilett on a free from Blackburn.
He can play as a second-striker and winger, and has the pace that the team is being shaped towards.
He isn't top quality yet, but would make a good squad player. Then spend the cash on a central midfielder.

Good thinking.

d22ontour · 07-04-2012 10:30PM

Blatter wrote: »

Nah, I'd play Welbeck v QPR for a couple of reasons.

1. QPR will park the bus so we will have to be patient and keep the ball moving. We all know Welbeck is much better at this as with Hernandez an awful lot of our moves break down because of his average build up play. Welbeck also didn't start the last game, so should be fresher.

2. Wigan generally play with a higher line, especially at home and will have a go at us. This suits Hernandez' game much better as he'll find it easier to run in behind them. He scored twice away to them last season as a result of this.

Welbeck has started a lot of our recent games and has been quite poor in most of them, Chico didn't have a great game against Blackburn but yet got himself into two great scoring chances with him fluffing one and hitting the post with the other, Welbeck hasn't being doing anything like that recently imo, he can hold the ball up well one minute then make a balls out of it the next.

Mikeyt086 · 07-04-2012 10:31PM

Shy_Dave! wrote: »

Y'all will just say to me 'not another winger!'...
What would you think of selling Park & Berbatov for say 18m and replace them with Hoilett on a free from Blackburn.
He can play as a second-striker and winger, and has the pace that the team is being shaped towards.
He isn't top quality yet, but would make a good squad player. Then spend the cash on a central midfielder.

I really like Junior Hoilett. He is a dangerous young winger, if he was to come to United he could be a very useful player in the future if he was given time, I mean the same time Nani has been given, to develop into a top player.

Considering he would be on a free, paying maybe £2-3m in compensation, he would cost the same as Gabriel Obertan. I would like to see it to be honest.

Not totally unrealistic as well. Fergie will have noticed his enthusiastic displays against us and will likely be monitoring his situation.

Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

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