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"The Origin of Specious Nonsense"

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    J C wrote: »
    Some modern scientists who have accepted the biblical account of creation

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭doctoremma


    MrPudding wrote: »
    A recap would be great, if you had the time.
    MrP

    Hmm, let's see...

    Why the eye is not irreducibly complex:
    1. There are many examples of simpler eyes in other organisms that operate perfectly well.
    2. People can be born without various bits of their eyes (lens, iris, sets of photoreceptors) and without certain biochemical functions and still retain some level of vision. In fact, the loss of the lens can allow a person to detect UV light - cool, huh?

    Why the eye is not intelligently designed:
    1. Humans have rubbish vision compared to some other animals, notably birds. Could be refuted if we accept that humans are not the pinnacle of the evolutionary tree.
    2. Our eyes are fragile - a small knock on the head can make the back of it fall off.
    3. Our eyes are wired backwards, with a jumble of blood vessels and tissue overlaying the photoreceptors - not efficient.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    I'm slightly worried that i'm far more interested in biology as a result of this topic than I ever was in a biology class. I think i've also learnt more.... :D As a result of the fantastic posts by oldrnwisr and a few others, not JC....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭doctoremma


    Has there been any movement on a definition for "complex specified information" yet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Heh. No. So I guess that's over 2 years J C has completely failed to provide details. It's almost as if he has nothing!


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Sarky wrote: »
    J C has completely failed to provide details. It's almost as if he has nothing!
    Given that the clown who came up with the notion didn't know what it is, it's hardly surprising he couldn't let other people know!

    Actually, Dumbski's wikipage has him describing how much progress he's made with SCFI:
    I'm not and never have been in the business of offering a strict mathematical proof for the inability of material mechanisms to generate specified complexity
    So, there you go. Even Dumbski admits that he can't show that SCFI (whatever that is) can't be produced naturally.

    /thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭doctoremma


    Sarky wrote: »
    Heh. No. So I guess that's over 2 years J C has completely failed to provide details. It's almost as if he has nothing!
    Nothing except persistence :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Oh, Dembski's in the "evil vaccines gave my kid autism" camp too.

    I didn't know that. Bahahahahaaa.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭RichieC


    J C wrote: »
    I'd say that Prof Dawkins met his match in this very capable lady ... who held her own in the argument ... and told him a few home truths.

    Wendy Wright ... is right !!!:)


    My god, how could anyone watch that video and consider it Dawkins meeting his match.. She's clearly not very intelligent.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,779 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    RichieC wrote: »
    My god, how could anyone watch that video and consider it Dawkins meeting his match.. She's clearly not very intelligent.

    nF9aE.gif
    Delusion is a powerful thing.

    MrP


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Okie dokey. And when you do could you do us all a MASSIVE favour and come back-- to visit us and confirm for us that the afterlife is real?
    The eyes are not here
    There are no eyes here

    The eyes, required to understand afterlife are not here. This dead land is haunted by shadows... There is a after life which is making me to contact with your haunted world. My grave is very deep

    Between the conception
    And the creation
    Between the emotion
    And the response
    Falls the Shadow


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    dead one wrote: »
    The eyes are not here
    There are no eyes here

    The eyes which are required to understand afterlife are not here. This dead land is haunted by shadows... There is a after life which is making me to contact with your haunted world. My grave is very deep

    Between the conception
    And the creation
    Between the emotion
    And the response
    Falls the Shadow

    This isn't a poetry forum. Less of that jibber-jabber. You choose not to write like a normal person, because you're afraid to have a logical conversation.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one


    dlofnep wrote: »
    This isn't a poetry forum. Less of that jibber-jabber. You choose not to write like a normal person, because you're afraid to have a logical conversation.
    There is a dimension of imagination, dlofnep, which is unknown to you... Have ever thought... Why are you fail to set foot in that dimension... Because there lock on your door of imagination.... Normal folks can't set foot in that dimension... You're normal person, will lead a normal life..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    dead one wrote: »
    There a dimension of imagination, dlofnep, which is unknown to you... Have ever thought... Why are you fail to set foot in that dimension... Because there lock on your door of imagination.... Normal folks can't set foot in that dimension... You're normal person, will lead a normal life..

    Unless you have a desire to type like a normal human being, I have no interest in conversing with you.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Unless you have a desire
    Between the desire
    And the spasm
    Between the potency
    And the existence
    Between the essence
    And the descent
    Falls the Shadow
    dlofnep wrote: »
    to type like a normal human being, I have no interest in conversing with you.
    Falls the Shadow


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    You're placed on ignore. Congrats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,779 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    dlofnep wrote: »
    You're placed on ignore. Congrats.
    I did that months ago. Your boards experience will now improve dramatically.

    MrP


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one


    Actually i have forced you to ignore me... You're really pain in @ss.. Thanks, your weak intellect does not perceive
    ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Another soul you've driven away from Islam. Allah must be proud of you, failing to save so many.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one


    sarky..
    I ended mass effect 3 on insanity. I feel pity on you,sarky.... I challenge the intellectualism of every atheist here, to end that game on insanity.. Remember insanity is to insane..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Mass Effect 3? Please. Come back when you've caused the Pac-man score counter to run out of zeros and reset, noob.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one


    Sarky wrote: »
    Mass Effect 3? Please. Come back when you've caused the Pac-man score counter to run out of zeros and reset, noob.
    Hey sarky be cool it's game, finish your prejudices while playing games... It's tip to play a game on insanity...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭sephir0th


    Also ignored, I can't take any more of this pseudointellectual drivel.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one


    sephir0th wrote: »
    Also ignored, I can't take any more of this pseudointellectual drivel.
    You're Welcome.. I am a strange character, folks
    "Are There Any More Real Cowboys?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    <obvious Brokeback Mountain joke>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    dead one wrote: »
    There is a dimension of imagination, dlofnep, which is unknown to you... Have ever thought... Why are you fail to set foot in that dimension... Because there lock on your door of imagination.... Normal folks can't set foot in that dimension... You're normal person, will lead a normal life..

    Are you saying heaven is imaginary?

    I also like how he is talking to people who can't hear him...

    Kinda like praying...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    dead one wrote: »
    Actually i have forced you to ignore me... You're really pain in @ss.. Thanks, your weak intellect does not perceive
    ;)

    Your weak intellect has just made him decide entertaining your rubbish and mythical made up stories is a waste of time-stick to your books that where made by people with agendas of power and control.

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    sephir0th wrote: »
    Also ignored, I can't take any more of this pseudointellectual drivel.

    I don't think he can be considered to be even at the level of Pseudo-intellectual when he brings Mass Effect 3 to a discussion on the idiocy of Creationism. :D JC appears to have gone missing from the topic actually...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Don't say its name! He's like the candy man, only more painful.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    **** guys, if he beat a computer game he must be some kinda genius beyond that of any normal human beings.

    Y'know, that or actually likes to play video games to beat them, like everyone else does.


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