Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

RiseToTheTop · 03-04-2012 03:31PM

Paully D wrote: »

27, but he'll be 28 before the new season starts. Signed for £6.5m and will have 3 years left on his deal. That's the other thing that we have going for us, bigger clubs won't be too enamored about paying £12m-£15m for a 28 year old.

Why? He's in his prime, will be in his prime for another 2-3 years, possibly 4 if he is lucky.

Zidane was 28 when he moved to Madrid for over £45 million.

Kylo Ren · 03-04-2012 03:58PM

RiseToTheTop wrote: »

Why? He's in his prime, will be in his prime for another 2-3 years, possibly 4 if he is lucky.

Zidane was 28 when he moved to Madrid for over £45 million.

That is Zidane.

Orando Broom · 03-04-2012 04:03PM

Paully D wrote: »

The ACN is on again in January 2013 so I'd imagine that will completely rule out Fergie signing an African player this summer.

I believe it's on again in September 2012!

Or Not. I thought in the final it was mentioned that it would be less than a year. Must have got it arseways.

Professional Griefer · 03-04-2012 04:25PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF6YUqoaw3E

The user has a few more up. They were brilliant last night.

Nailz · 03-04-2012 04:59PM

Ix Deadmau5 wrote: »

*United end video*

The user has a few more up. They were brilliant last night.

Great stuff, United traditionally bring a great support up to Ewood Park, probably because it's just a few minutes up the road, taking the train through Bolton and all that. Here's a video I took last year of Rooney's penalty that won No. 19. Mental.

http://vimeo.com/23776600

T'is a bit shakey, I wasn't watching were I was aiming it obviously.

The_Kew_Tour · 03-04-2012 05:03PM

Only been to one away game all year. Cant make next week, but I am bloody tempted to maybe try sneak in the City game, that's if my Uncle or friend can swing a ticket which is 50/50.

I would have given up weeks wages just be there last night.

Nalz · 03-04-2012 05:05PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I would have given up weeks wages just be
there last night.

Me too. Going over to the Villa game on the 14th. Looking forward to it and hoping for a good atmosphere. Stoke at home was the last one I was at. I'm taking VW1 seat as my mates are taking mine in the north stand.

The_Kew_Tour · 03-04-2012 05:08PM

Trilla wrote: »

Me too. Going over to the Villa game on the 14th. Looking forward to it and hoping for a good atmosphere. Stoke at home was the last one I was at. I'm taking VW1 seat as my mates are taking mine in the north stand.

My only hope is City game. Cant get time off work for Wigan and weekend of Sunderland game I have an exam.:(

smokedeels · 03-04-2012 05:27PM

Des wrote: »

Was thinking about this this morning.

Who was the last African who played for United?

Evra and Nani

... born there, but not African in football terms.

Fuhrer · 03-04-2012 05:28PM

Its The One

Who, incidentally, is doing quite well at Hannover, 8 games 5 goals

smokedeels · 03-04-2012 05:31PM

Fuhrer wrote: »

Its The One

Where did that nickname come from?

Fuhrer · 03-04-2012 05:33PM

smokedeels wrote: »

Where did that nickname come from?

It was hard to get excited about another above average young striker coming in so he got called the one as if he was some sort of messiah like player.

It would have been funnier if he was worse.

lordgoat · 03-04-2012 05:35PM

Nailz wrote: »

Great stuff, United traditionally bring a great support up to Ewood Park, probably because it's just a few minutes up the road, taking the train through Bolton and all that. Here's a video I took last year of Rooney's penalty that won No. 19. Mental.

http://vimeo.com/23776600

T'is a bit shakey, I wasn't watching were I was aiming it obviously.

I actually remember you going to that match last year!

smokedeels wrote: »

Where did that nickname come from?

The One? No one gave him that name. That is what he is called.

Mitch Connor · 03-04-2012 06:41PM

watching the United game from last night.

Do United have any central threat? really? Our game plan revolves completely on getting the ball wide and crossing it in, not chances created through the middle really.

I have no issue with a winger focused gameplan, but I have to think our wingers could be more productive if we had some other style of threat to offer. It obviously does work for us, but we are so completely reliant on our wide play getting us the goal, never look like getting it elsewhere.

The_Kew_Tour · 03-04-2012 06:45PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

watching the United game from last night.

Do United have any central threat? really? Our game plan revolves completely on getting the ball wide and crossing it in, not chances created through the middle really.

I have no issue with a winger focused gameplan, but I have to think our wingers could be more productive if we had some other style of threat to offer. It obviously does work for us, but we are so completely reliant on our wide play getting us the goal, never look like getting it elsewhere.

Good point.

You only have to look at the form Nani has been in to see this. When he plays well United seem to win and vice versa, even more so then Rooney from what I have seen.

kryogen · 03-04-2012 06:51PM

When Rooney is played through the middle we have a threat down the middle, also I would bet that when Clev and Ando are fit and in the team there would be more of a threat also, but Fergie has always wanted his teams to play with width and attack with wingers, its just his philosophy to attack in that manner.

In fairness to him its worked for 20 years or so

A genuine central threat to compliment the wide men would be nice of course. But he seems to want his centre to be solid more then anything now, to be there to break up play from the opposition and distribute to the wingers to try to attack.

Mitch Connor · 03-04-2012 06:52PM

At the start of the season we were more creative through the middle I think - with Welbeck, Rooney, Cleverley and Nani combining well. I suppose you have to look at the team we had out last night; without Nani or Young we didn't have a winger coming in playing 1-2's, Valencia is a hug the line winger and we had no one on the left. Cleverley also not playing so we didn't have an AMC-type player on the pitch.

Mitch Connor · 03-04-2012 06:56PM

kryogen wrote: »

When Rooney is played through the middle we have a threat down the middle, also I would bet that when Clev and Ando are fit and in the team there would be more of a threat also, but Fergie has always wanted his teams to play with width and attack with wingers, its just his philosophy to attack in that manner.

I think the link to Hazard (and his type of player) with the sale of Berbatov is linked to this, where we will replace Berbatov with an AMC and look to play the AMC off Rooney. This obviously impacts Chicho and Welbeck, but I think it is something Fergie is looking at.

The_Kew_Tour · 03-04-2012 07:04PM

For me at times we play a more 4-2-2-2 type formation then 4-4-1-1. We depend on wingers who push more forward then our 2 CM who sit back and pick up pieces with our 2 Full Backs coming into the attack to help out and also pick out more balls from crosses that don't find players in box.

Having someone like Fletcher made us play more centrally and having more variation, along with Cleverly this season

MagicMarker · 03-04-2012 07:06PM

If his performance against City is anything to go by, I wouldn't mind if we went after Jack Colback for the LB position, although I realise that's not his natural position.

As for Bale, at Spurs can be amazing, at Utd I think he'd be world class. One Welsh left winger to replace another please.

The_Kew_Tour · 03-04-2012 07:09PM

Bale would cost an arm and leg if we were to pursue our interest in buying him.

Spurs would look for 45million no doubt about it.

kryogen · 03-04-2012 07:11PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I think the link to Hazard (and his type of player) with the sale of Berbatov is linked to this, where we will replace Berbatov with an AMC and look to play the AMC off Rooney. This obviously impacts Chicho and Welbeck, but I think it is something Fergie is looking at.

Yeah I draw the same conclusion there, looking at a 433/451/4231

DDG

Raf

Smalling

Vida

Evra

Ando

Carrick

Valencia

Hazard

Nani

Rooney

Or something to that effect would be pretty nice next season

lordgoat · 03-04-2012 07:16PM

kryogen wrote: »

Yeah I draw the same conclusion there, looking at a 433/451/4231
DDG
Raf
Smalling
Vida
Evra
Ando
Carrick
Valencia
Hazard
Nani
Rooney

Or something to that effect would be pretty nice next season

Dude Ando and Carrick has never worked.

I still want Ando gone in the summer, he's a disaster. No heart or fight to him.

Samich · 03-04-2012 07:17PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

If his performance against City is anything to go by, I wouldn't mind if we went after Jack Colback for the LB position, although I realise that's not his natural position.

As for Bale, at Spurs can be amazing, at Utd I think he'd be world class. One Welsh left winger to replace another please.

You then have 2 wingers who can play full back

Mitch Connor · 03-04-2012 07:17PM

kryogen wrote: »

Yeah I draw the same conclusion there, looking at a 433/451/4231
DDG
Raf
Smalling
Vida
Evra
Ando
Carrick
Valencia
Hazard
Nani
Rooney

Or something to that effect would be pretty nice next season

yep - thats the way I'm seeing it - especially for the bigger games, with Rooney up top and the two more 'holding' midfielders. In home games or games we are 'going for' I could see us playing the AMC in slightly more conventional role with Carrick sitting behind them and playing with Rooney & Welbeck/Chico.

At the moment we only have Rooney to play that withdrawn role as well, so signing an AMC (like Hazard, for the sake of discussion) would also mean we have some cover for Rooney.

Al Capwned · 03-04-2012 07:24PM

Well lads, it's been 4 years since I was over for a game - January 2008 v Portsmouth - 'That' Ronaldo free kick.
Was self-employed at the time, but haven't worked since early 2009 - poxy recession.

Anyway, just booked and paid for trip to the Swansea game on Sunday May 6th - last home game - and I am like an eight year old on Christmas Eve - it just cannot come quickly enough.

kryogen · 03-04-2012 07:37PM

lordgoat wrote: »

Dude Ando and Carrick has never worked.

I still want Ando gone in the summer, he's a disaster. No heart or fight to him.

Have to disagree there, Carrick and Ando could work quite well in a 3 man midfield, they have done before and there is no reason they could not play well together tbh.

I have nailed my colours to the mast about Ando already so no need for big discussion now, was simply using him as an example for the formation anyway, substitute him with whoever you would prefer there.

kryogen · 03-04-2012 07:38PM

alproctor wrote: »

Well lads, it's been 4 years since I was over for a game - January 2008 v Portsmouth - 'That' Ronaldo free kick.
Was self-employed at the time, but haven't worked since early 2009 - poxy recession.

Anyway, just booked and paid for trip to the Swansea game on Sunday May 6th - last home game - and I am like an eight year old on Christmas Eve - it just cannot come quickly enough.

Should be a good one to be there for, enjoy!

Al Capwned · 03-04-2012 07:46PM

kryogen wrote: »

Should be a good one to be there for, enjoy!

Oh we intend to - a group of 8 lads going over - staying the night before the game and the night of it. With the shower of 7 mad fcukers and myself, we should have a story or two to tell!

kryogen · 03-04-2012 07:58PM

Barca just piss me off. Waste a perfect opportunity then Milan give them a penalty by ****ing up a clearance.

Sorry, wrong thread I know, window was open though

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