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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭turbobaby


    Precious metals and the miners got battered again yesterday. Rumour: due to drops in the Chinese stock exchange, investors have had to sell PMs to meet margin calls. Not sure I believe that though.

    Anyway, Stroud got trounced yesterday. Down 30% ! However, volume at the lower end was minimal so I expect that it was walked down to panic some investors into selling. Management are bad, but this should be worth far more than $9m.

    I sold 10% of HRT yesterday in order to pick up some more Stroud at 4.5cent but only 4000 of my 180,000 bid was matched.

    While I was watching Stroud, Eco Oil and Gas gave up almost all of their 30% gains yesterday as they were forced to announce that no material changes had occured to warrant the big rise. The material change came last week with the announcement of 7 billions of barrels of oil!

    I will monitor the open today and if it doesn't run away, I will take a position there.

    Will post a screenshot this afternoon reflecting yesterday's losses as the profit level fell below Eur 10k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 rs500ff


    keep up the good work TB. Enjoyable reading.
    Good to get an insight into how others see things!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭turbobaby


    Thanks RS. I am enjoying writing it as it gives me a chance to monitor my comments, predictions, fears etc and learn from them as I am very new to this game.

    OK, let me get the screenshot out of the way first. Disappointed to drop below the +€10k marker but like I said earlier, it can't always be rosy.

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    You will note that I sold 1,530 shares of HRP last night. Despite saying it was a very long term hold, I felt I had to buy some shares in Eco Oil and Gas after the price came back down a little after being up over 30% yesterday (as mentioned above).

    It opened up today but not too bad, and I got my hands on 4,700 shares at $1.17. Initially, only partially matched but I didn't panic and chase the share up, and subsequently the price came back down to $1.17.

    As Zignals don't have EOG.V on their system I have had to request it today, so I'm not sure how I will include it in my portfolio when it is added.

    Happy to see SDR open +0.5c today too. Very light volumes on the order book so I expect it to jump around at these levels for a while.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 77 ✭✭collymcd


    Thanks for these updates Turbo. I'm very new to all of this and am enjoying reading the thread.

    One question though, you say you're holding HRP for the long term - what time span are you talking here?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭turbobaby


    Cheers Colly.

    I'm not really sure what long term represents yet.

    HRP.V is an exploration company right now. I want to hold it until there is production in Namibia. Obviously production is based on results, which obviously could go either way, but I really believe in this company.

    We hear talk of Kurdistan being the last frontier. Namibia can rival Kurdistan. With Marcio Mello and his management team at HRT, I am confident he can find billions of barrels in Namibia, just like he did for Petrobras in Brazil.

    The whole concept behind Namibia is that it once was landlocked with Brazil when Africa and S America were connected.

    Brazilian investors I have spoken with have targets between $50 and $100 per share, and I think they are serious!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭The Pontiac


    turbobaby,

    Are you watching Serica (SQZ)? They announced today a farm-out of their Namibia assets to BP.

    Listed in Canada and London, but London is the driver. Worth keeping an eye on anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭turbobaby


    Ollie, thanks for that. I'm aware of Serica alright but they have many irons in the fire and now with this farm out, they are not a pure Namibian play.

    It's great to see the majors getting involved with them, and brings more attention to Namibia.

    HRT will farm out in H2 and we have been told by the CEO that there is a queue of majors forming.

    Last night HRT announced they had found more gas from their 5th drill. The site was in the gas prone west zone and they did not yet mention that oil was found. However, the formation tests over the next 50 days will give more details about the well.

    I think the market was expecting just gas so maybe we wont see a sell off today, as we did not hit a duster.

    In about 2 weeks we will get the results from well six. There is a greater chance of oil here so I would suggest taking a position in HRT if we sell off on last nights results.

    Anyone else monitoring this thread should also look into ECO.V. I bought in yesterday and I am delighted to have a position in this junior explorer. I can write more about this over the weekend.

    A little recovery for SDR yesterday. Back up to 5.5c. Sell order in place at 6.5c.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭s.c


    Well done turbobaby. Very interesting thread. Will be keeping an eye on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭The Pontiac


    turbobaby wrote: »
    Ollie, thanks for that. I'm aware of Serica alright but they have many irons in the fire and now with this farm out, they are not a pure Namibian play.

    It's great to see the majors getting involved with them, and brings more attention to Namibia.

    Not invested in SQZ myself, but will keep an eye on future developments. Agreed that BP farming into their blocks just shows more confidence in the region.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭ballyharpat


    OP nice job on your investing. When I started investing, about 8/9 years ago, I started with a few penny stocks, the likes of Russian telecommunications companies, pharma companies that may strike it big and Canadian oil sands companies. I made -99% profit, lost about 10k, when they rise, they rise dramatically and do the same when they fall.

    I realised, that, for me, I couldn't continue to gamble on those odds if I planned on using the money to fund my retirement, buy another house etc. I started up a virtual portfolio on Yahoo, I invested in well established companies and tracked my choices for a year, plenty of these would have also paid dividends.
    In the crash of '08 I lost a pretty penny, but knew that my stocks were solid and would rise as the market did. I kept investing and currently my stocks are worth double my initial investment. I have been taking profits as stocks reached great heights, but would keep the initial principal in, invest the profits in another company, granted, I bought apple at e60 and have been selling along the way, If I had kept Apple it would be worth a nice amount today, but I sleep better at night without all my eggs in one basket.

    I have a lot of cash sitting at the minute, I believe the market cannot sustain itself and there will be a sell off in the near future and that cash will buy a lot more shares of solid companies when the price declines.

    I don't know how much you have in these stocks, I generally keep about 10-15% of money to play with and pick stocks that may rise or fall dramatically, but that just keeps the fun in the game as solid blue chips/indexed funds/ETF's can be a bit boring :(

    Good luck with your investing, but my advice to anyone looking to make money on the Markets would be to follow Buffet or Schiffs strategies, just my 2c


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭turbobaby


    Hi Billy, thanks for your post. It's true that starting off your investment career with high risk stocks is pretty bad mix, so I am grateful that I have not lost anything so far and learned more than I ever did in college about investing, and how the financial world works.

    Well done on doubling your initial investment since changing investment strategy.

    With regard to your view that shares are currently overbought. Perhaps you are right, but the huge amounts of cash swirling around (because of the very loose policy of all the major central banks) needs to find a home. As the Fed plans to try to keep rates at zero until 2014, I can not see a major drop coming. That said, I would not go near financial stocks, or companies with a lot of exposure to US consumers.

    You mentioned Buffet and Schiff. I must admit Peter Schiff is a hero of mine, and I share a lot of his views.

    Now, back to my share picks. A lot has happened in recent days that I should mention. Things are hotting up in Namibia. BP farmed into Serica's blocks, and also increased their participation in one of Chariot's blocks in the Nimrod prospect. They purchased the stake from Petrobras.

    The market has digested the Serica news and as I type SQZ is up 15%.

    My newest shareholding, EOG.V dropped back on Friday afternoon, bouncing off the $1.40 area again. I have no doubt that this share price represents significant value. They only have $7m cash but with Chariot and HRT drilling close to them this year, EOG will get a free ride as their block is derisked through the successful drills of their neighbours. Once the share price rises to a fairer value, maybe they will raise more cash through a private placement or just offer themselves up for a takeover. They also have the option of farming out and handing dilling responsibilities to a major.

    HRT's shareprice reacted positively to the news on Friday that they had only found gas. The previous well was gas and condensate and the share price dropped significantly.

    The problem with gas is that they do not yet have a plan to monetize whatever gas they find, as the blocks are deep in the amazon. However, Petrobras recently found gas also and as more and more gas is found, various options for monetization become more viable. I am no expert on this, but during the conference call various options were discussed. Therefore, it seems each additional gas discovery will have a more positive correlation with the share price.

    We found out today that the Namibians have extended the exploritory period of all of HRT's licences. This takes pressure off the company to rush a drilling campaign, and also strenghtens their hand when negotiating the farm outs. It seems HRT have an excellent relationship with the Namibians, the importance of which cannot be understated!

    SDR continued its mini recovery and my sell trade is sitting first in line, so any more decent buys and I will be out.

    PCI continues to languish and frustrate, but I am confident its time will come shortly. Goldman Sachs getting involved would give it a nice boost.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭turbobaby


    Well, the languishing continues for the time being.

    Stroud took another tumble, back down to 5c as someone unloaded a fairly hefty amount today.

    PCI is continuing it's little dribble downwards as there's no news imminent to spur on the buyers.

    Silver down 2%.

    HRT announced today that they spudded another well in the Solimoes (Amazon). The next well results (Drill 6) are scheduled for April 10-15 and there is a chance of oil with that one. I am hearing that their farm out process in Namibia is moving along nicely. These two events, plus the Brazilian share split in May could really propel HRT into giddy heights.

    More news coming from Namibia. Petro Viking Energy bought some offshore blocks near HRT. Need to do some research here to see if they are worth a punt.

    The Brazilian Real (currency) has dropped 6% in the last month against the Euro as their central bank upped their currency wars offensive.

    EOG continued it's volatility with a 31% gain today, giving me the only bit of green on the board. Haven't dropped below the €9k profit level just yet.

    Gulf Keystone is starting to look attractive at these levels.

    My favourite miner, PVG lost 10% today, so that is also on the radar again!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭turbobaby


    Another drop to report. The €9k and €8k profit levels were lost yesterday as a sea of red took over my screen!

    No specific news items were released relating to any shares but HRT, EOG, SDR and Silver all dropped.

    Weak numbers out of the EU and China led to a "risk-off" day and, as always, the higher risk exploration stocks get hit. Nothing to panic about!

    HRT dropped over 8% on the Brazilian market yesterday and may drop more today. The level of short sellers has rapidly increased over the last few days. This is obviously a bearish signal, as investors bet that the share price will drop. An optimist might say that the institutional investors have brought the price down to trigger stops and get their hands on other investors' shares at a discount. Maybe, but probably just a regular sell off after a great run since mid January.

    Starting from mid April there is a huge number of events which will effect the price of HRT's shares, so I am expecting the volatility to be very high from that point on.

    In relation to PCI, there was some big volume over the last couple of days. Perhaps Goldman Sachs are taking a position. Should be interesting to see how it performs today.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,196 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Not the only one Turbobaby, very bad week this week and I was positive mine would be breaking new highs by now last Friday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭turbobaby


    Yes, as a poster mentioned above, a pullback was probably overdue after a good run up over the last couple of months. It's impossible to time these things, so just buy and hold until if you have confidence in your picks.

    Nothing wrong with a little break before moving back up anyway!

    I am a firm believer that the problems in Europe and especially the US are not solved, but with the easy money policy of all the major central banks, we will continue to see the price of oil rise as well as stocks.

    For my own records and for anyone who has an interest in HRT, I woud like to post a list of all the key drivers of the share price over the coming months. Taken from a Brazilian forum.

    • Approval from the regulators (ANP) to transfer 45% of the Solimoes asset to TNK BP;

    • News about the arrival of four rigs in the Solimoes which were ordered from China;

    • Results of the drilling of well 170/6. Due mid April. 20km from a Petrobras oil discovery, so some oil is expected.

    • Formation test results from well 192/1;

    • Commencement of drilling in Namibia by Chariot;

    • Formation test results for well 170/6;

    • A 1/50 share split on the Brazilian listing, enabling smaller investors to buy in;

    • Results of drilling of the extension of well 194 (the first test found condensate, if there is oil in the extension it would be excellent news);

    • Farm-out of Namibian assets to a major oil company.

    • Possible fracking in Solimoes to improve flow rates;

    • Results from Chariot's drilling in Namibia;

    • Possible announcement of gas monetization;

    • Start to drill in Namibia;

    • Update to the certification of estimated barrels of oil in Namibia based on new seismic imaging already received;

    • Drilling in Solimoes to move easterly into areas more prone to oil;

    • Inclusion in the Ibovespa index.

    A lot to get excited about, and all in planned for 2012.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭turbobaby


    Time for another screenshot as the +€7k level has been lost.

    HRT continued its volatility on Friday. The price dropped on the open but shot up 10% in the space of two hours. Very strange. Remember this is a company with a market cap of USD $2 billion. It sold off again right at the close so today's action should be very interesting.

    PCI continued the slide. It sure is a frustrating share to hold as it has been priced way under its NAV for as long as I have held it.

    Zignals.com have yet to add EOG to their platform but I'm happy to report it's showing a small profit.

    screenshot20120326at104.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭turbobaby


    The bleed continues!

    It could have been a lot worse too. Big buys came in for HRT at the closing auction in Brazil, and PCI recovered in the last hour after a major drop to 7p.

    The euro strengthening against the Real and the Canadian Dollar is compounding the losses, but I'm still up over 10% so no real complaints.

    Regarding HRT, the price movements over the next couple of weeks will basically be meaningless, as the major determining factors will be the results of drill 170/06 in the Amazon (mid April) and Chariot's drill in Namibia (early June).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭turbobaby


    Screenshot!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭ballyharpat


    That's the thing with penny stocks, if you had invested in an etf or indexed fund, you would be up about 10% now as well, you would have had less work watching stocks as well. Granted if you are talking about only a couple of k, or if you have a large portfolio and like to play with +- 10% on highly volatile stocks, as I do, then it's grand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭turbobaby


    It's the end of the month and the quarter and my portfolio ends the period with a €7k profit. Can't argue with that!

    It truth, it was a quiet quarter for both PCI and to a lesser extent HRT, and I expect the next quarter to be very interesting for both, especially HRT, who will shortly announce results from drill 170/06. An oil discovery there would be just delightful.

    The gold and silver mining shares are really really beaten up and so cheap now. I would love to see PCI move up over 10p so I could divest a little and move some into the miners. Pretium Resources is trading around the $14/$15 range, so that is a serious contender. There are so many good companies to choose from, so more research is required. Stroud was a misjudgement on my part as I didn't realise the management were so poor. Would love to get out at 6.5c taking a loss but 6c might just do it for me, with a valuable lesson about the importance of management learned.

    I mentioned 7k above, but that doesn't reflect my current loss on Eco Oil and Gas (not on Zignals.com yet).

    It is interesting to see the riots kicking off in Spain. However, it will be even more interesting when that day comes to the US, and there is no doubt that it will. To quote Putin: "They are living like parasites off the global economy and their monopoly of the dollar". Once confidence in the dollar is lost, they will lose their leech like abilities!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod


    turbobaby wrote: »
    It is interesting to see the riots kicking off in Spain. However, it will be even more interesting when that day comes to the US, and there is no doubt that it will. To quote Putin: "They are living like parasites off the global economy and their monopoly of the dollar". Once confidence in the dollar is lost, they will lose their leech like abilities!
    The riots in Spain were smaller then the dramatic headlines and pictures made them seem. I wouldn't be surprised though if within a year there is a proper blow up in the periphery - people may only accept austerity with nothing to show for it for a finite amount of time. Or failing that the ECB may do something insane, although Draghi seems less lunatic then Trichet. Then again we are talking about a few degrees of difference. The ECB may decide to force Spain into an IMF package just like they forced us into one if the banks become too dependent on them.

    I would say the only way for the dollar to lose the confidence of the world would be for the Republicans to force an unnecessary default in the next debt ceiling negotiations. They are unhinged enough to do that but I would say the chances of that are slim. As long as the US continues being recklessly spend thrift it should do just fine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭turbobaby


    Here we go again.
    The riots in Spain were smaller then the dramatic headlines and pictures made them seem.

    Indeed you may be right. Media like to put a spin on things in whatever way it suits them. I could say the very same about the article you linked to. You will note that it is from the Chicago Tribune. You will also note that Barack Obama is from Chicago and it is an election year. Positive spin no doubt.
    As long as the US continues being recklessly spend thrift it should do just fine.

    Now, I couldn't believe my eyes when I read this comment. Referring to the US as spendthrift, but in a positive way! I had to visit wikipedia to ensure my interpretation of that word was right. I couldn't have said it better myself...

    I have shortened their article:

    A spendthrift is someone who is extravagant and recklessly wasteful, often to a point where the spending climbs well beyond his or her means. The origin of the word is someone who is able to spend money acquired by the thrift of predecessors or ancestors.

    The term is often used by the press as an adjective applied to governments who are thought to be wasting public money.

    Full details here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spendthrift[/COLOR]

    To me, this is the perfect analogy of the USA right now. They're like a son who has inherited wealth from his rich ancestors who worked hard, saved and invested to build up a huge fortune. The son comes along, stops saving and merely consumes. He consumes so much that he is no longer the largest creditor in the world but the largest debtor i.e. despite having no savings left he continues his lavish lifestyle fueled by borrowings. People will lend him as much money as he wants - after all he is part of a dynasty and has a great reputation. But one day the penny drops and the lenders realise that this young man does not have the means to pay back his debts and refuse to lend to him and call in their loans.

    Or what about this one.... A group of people go out for a meal, but after three courses they do the sums and realise they do not have enough cash to pay the bill. So instead of facing the reality of their over consumption, they keep ordering more desserts so the bill never comes. But eventually the restaurant will close and the bill will have to be settled.

    It's closing time in Europe but the US is only a few hours behind, and boy are they munching on desserts right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod


    turbobaby wrote: »
    Here we go again.
    Not really, I don't have the time to waste.

    What's happening in Europe is purely self-inflicted, the US is sensibly not following in the madness and is consequently is a far healthier position and slowly recovering (and that of course is helping your portfolio).

    If you are truly of the opinion that the US is doomed then your portfolio makes no sense at all.

    Commodities - when you predict the impending collapse of the US economy and all its attending deflationary implosion.

    Honestly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭turbobaby


    Thank you for your concern but I am invested in commodity shares because they will continue to rise in dollar terms despite lower demand from the US.

    Markets are not rising because the US is recovering, they are rising as the world is swimming in fresh dollars, yen, pounds, francs and yuan. There will be QE3, possibly at the end of this month. The US will not go down without a fight.

    As my portfolio increases, I plan to shift a greater proportion into precious metals miners and non-US dividend paying stocks until interest rates rise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭Mr_Roger_Bongos


    Just on your QE3 predictions, did you see the FOMC minutes?

    FT Comment on minutes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭turbobaby


    Roger, cheers for the link. I have read the comments by the media in relation to the FOMC minutes, and I'm a little surprised at how they have interpreted them.

    If you read the minutes themselves, you will see that the Fed is still in fact going to keep rates at 0 until 2014, and still very "accommodative".

    It's a dog and pony show if you ask me.

    The Fed cannot let rates rise. This fake recovery will be on its knees if rates rise. More easing will come, whether it is announced explicitly as QE3 or something else.

    Of course, I could be wrong, but I do not think the Americans have the stomach for budget cuts. Paul Ryan's budget was denounced as "Draconian", "social Darwinism", "radical" etc. it plans to have balanced budget by 2040!

    Obama's budget will never balance.

    Where will the money come from? Either borrowed from abroad or as I expect, printed.

    Anyway, back to my portfolio. Due to the misinterpretation of the FOMC minutes and further warranted worries for Italy (concern for PCI) and Spain, there was a major sell of, especially in commodity stocks yesterday.

    The increase to my balance is slowly but surely falling away, but still in positive territory. I feel the sell off yesterday was unwarranted, and it would be a time to add to positions if one had some free cash lying about.

    HRT announced that the Brazilian regulators have a approved the farm out to TNK-BP.

    Also announced was the opening of the data room and negotiations for farm out of some of the Namibian blocks.

    Marcio Rocha Mello CEO of HRT said: "The data-room is yet another important step in HRT's history and should support our exploratory campaign in Namibia. This is a world class asset in one of the most promising oil and gas frontiers in the world. The Company has committed a large amount of work and dedication to turn this project into reality"

    Anyway, here's the screenshot. It actually paints a false picture as the HRT shares are trading at a premium and the EOG losses are not included. Take off another €1k.

    screenshot20120405at102.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭turbobaby


    Wow, what a great piece by David McWilliams. I don't follow him too much, but I certainly will be from now on. He really sums it all up so plainly.

    Certainly worth a read for any up and coming or seasoned investor.
    Have you noticed how expensive petrol is these days? It now costs over €100 to fill up an average family car. In Ussher’s Quay the other day, there was a tailback of cars because a petrol station decided to offer a cut-price deal on petrol.

    Why is the price of fuel going up?

    Lots of media coverage is focusing on the Straits of Hormuz and the sabre-rattling between Iran, America and Israel at a time when Syria burns in the background. We are told that old-fashioned supply problems can explain the price of oil. Then, last Thursday, the main oilman in Saudi Arabia told us to chill out there was loads of the stuff left and there wouldn’t be any supply problems. Of course, this is all playing out against a background where the proponents of ‘peak oil’ argue that the stuff is running out anyway.

    But might there be another reason that petrol prices are so high? Is there anything else driving up the price of petrol at the pumps that could be closer to home?

    The answer is yes. At the moment, the central banks of the world are responding to this mega-debt crisis and huge de-leveraging everywhere with lower and lower interest rates. Earlier this month, a report from the US Federal Reserve (www.federalreserve.gov) on the flow of funds in the US made for quite shocking reading if you are someone who worries about what central banks all around the world are doing.

    The rest is here http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2012/04/02/america-the-worlds-largest-emerging-market

    I also like his quote from Ernest Hemingway.


    Ernest Hemingway was once asked how did he go bankrupt. The great man thought for a second and then replied: “I went bankrupt in two ways, gradually and then suddenly."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod


    Some impressive analysis of the oil market there. I like how he showed there was massive supply to feed all the demand and he clearly linked QE to the high prices.

    Anyway, back in the real world, the physical market is very tight, supply is being slowly squeezed due to the slow reduction in Iranian oil exports which combined with the Yemen, South Sudan and Syrian production outages has ended up forcing prices higher. On the demand side we have newly opened strategic oil reserves being filled up by China (its second) and the Philippines new one along with Thailand increasing theirs, don't forget the Japanese who have shut down their nuke plants who are now burning crude (four times more then last year).

    It's clear we are running out of new sources of easily accessible oil.

    Supply is just not responding to prices.

    world-oil-supply-and-brent-oil-price.png

    QE started late 2008 by the way so how does he explain the almost $140 dollar price of oil before QE?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod


    Of course you can also see how the floods of QE are ramping up prices in energy markets that are significantly oversupplied.

    natgas.png

    Normally with so much supply of natural gas and with demand not being anywhere near strong enough to consume it as can be seen from record high storage numbers you would expect prices to collapse. But no! Thanks to QE we have 10yr record highlow gas prices.

    The madness doesn't stop at natural gas, coal prices have also ralliedslumped due to all the QE madness, utterly ignoring the current strong global supply.

    Dislocation is further evident from the Brent-WTI spread, you would expect Europe to be particularly hard hit from supplies that it relies on being constrained and therefore to have it's local most important index to strengthen compared to the well supplied US market.

    brentwtispread.png

    Again though the madness that is QE is pushing the Brent-WTI spread to significant lowshighs.

    I would also mention the backwardation and contango in the two benchmarks but I'm getting bored.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭turbobaby


    I will keep this brief as I am not comfortable with you clogging up this thread with your nonsense.

    Yes, demand for oil in Japan and in emerging markets is certainly up, and yes of course the easily assessible stuff is running out, but you also need to realise that demand in the US and Europe is down significantly, due to high unemployment and lower real incomes.

    Doubts about supplies from Iran will also put upward pressure on the price, but they are still selling their oil, this talk of supply constraints is not true. It's an easy excuse for Obama... Blame the Arabs, blame the Chinese. Don't blame me and my massive budget deficits.

    Saudi oil minister: “there is no rational reason for high oil prices.” Instead he argued “fundamentally the market remains balanced. It is the perceived shortage of oil keeping prices high – not the reality on the ground. There is no lack of supply. There is no demand which cannot be met.”

    There you have it. Demand might be up a little maybe, supply is fine. The third variable which you blindly ignore is the supply of the cash used to pay for the stuff.

    It is basic economics. Think back to your Premier League sticker selection. The rare stickers were far more valuable than the ones which were hard to find. When you got more and more of Steve Ogrizovic, you were willing to give multiples of them all away to your friends for just one shiney club crest.

    The supply of dollars here is a major factor in the price of oil priced in dollars. Not the only factor, but a major one.

    As for your comments re natural gas. The supply of some commodities rises higher than the supply of the dollars / demand chasing them. Natural gas in the US for instance. Mobile phones, TVs and most consumer electronics too. This is where production of the goods is greater than the production of dollars.


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