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random drink driving checkpoints

  • 30-03-2012 11:23PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,358 ✭✭✭kev1.3s


    hi I was traveling on the N11 this morning about 6.45 when I was stopped at a drink driving checkpoint, I'm not a heavy drinker any more but I've got a problem with these early morning checkpoints anyway but that aside I can hand on heart say that it has been a full seven days since I had a couple of pints, anyhow I took the test and low and behold it came up positive, not enough for to be taken in but enough to get a warning from the guard.
    I then informed the Guard that I had not had a drink in a week or so and her response was did I have a cigarette this morning which I replied no, I don't know what the **** a fag has to do with it anyway but my question is if these machines are not reliable why the **** are they being used to disrupt our day?
    And before anybody asks I didn't use mouthwash this morning!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    These machines are only used as a guide for the cops and cannot be used in court, if they suspect you were DD over the limit they will bring you down to the station and do a proper test or else call in a doctor to take blood samples.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    You must have performed oral sex on an alcoholic last night.


  • Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kev1.3s wrote: »
    hi I was traveling on the N11 this morning about 6.45 when I was stopped at a drink driving checkpoint, I'm not a heavy drinker any more but I've got a problem with these early morning checkpoints anyway but that aside I can hand on heart say that it has been a full seven days since I had a couple of pints, anyhow I took the test and low and behold it came up positive, not enough for to be taken in but enough to get a warning from the guard.
    I then informed the Guard that I had not had a drink in a week or so and her response was did I have a cigarette this morning which I replied no, I don't know what the **** a fag has to do with it anyway but my question is if these machines are not reliable why the **** are they being used to disrupt our day?
    And before anybody asks I didn't use mouthwash this morning!
    They only show if you have drink taken above a certain level.

    When you are brought to the station, you will do the test that would be used in court...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,358 ✭✭✭kev1.3s


    I understand that but if I was taken to the station this morning it would have seriously ****ed up my day over a faulty piece of equipment.
    I would understand if I'd had a couple of bottles last night but to have taken no alcohol at all and the machine to register it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    mouthwash is often the cause of this


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    mouthwash is often the cause of this

    Genius! Never thought of doing that. Great place to hide it. Hweh hweh hweh.

    Grr, damn you and your ninja edits!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    mouthwash is often the cause of this
    And wine gums. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭haminka


    mouthwash, even stewed fruit with your porridge or chocolate with let's say baylies filling can cause positive readings


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 978 ✭✭✭Arnold Layne


    Were you the recipient of a golden shower after your partner's night out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,966 ✭✭✭Podge2k7


    Drink!!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    Sherry trifle for breakfast was a bad choice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭donegal_road


    I play music and a band member was getting a lift home after the gig with another member who hadn't been drinking (3 years ago), she was breathalyzed at a checkpoint and passed, but my mate was in the passenger seat and asked could he have a go on the breathalyzer.. he had 5 pints of Guinness and 3 small bottles of red wine, and he passed the test. The Guard said to him that if he had been stopped, he would have passed the test, but wouldn't recommend he take the chance again in the future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Am I on the wrong roads, I havent seen a drink driving checkpoint in maybe 2 years or so.

    Also, has there ever been a checkpoint on the M50 in Dublin? Never saw one before.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,127 ✭✭✭✭Leeg17


    Smoking a cigarette may produce a false positive and the instructions on the breathalyzer say to wait at least 20 minutes (or so we were taught).

    Most likely your mouthwash OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    gurramok wrote: »
    Am I on the wrong roads, I havent seen a drink driving checkpoint in maybe 2 years or so.

    Also, has there ever been a checkpoint on the M50 in Dublin? Never saw one before.

    Id be surprised if it was legal to setup a check point on a motorway.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 174 ✭✭troposphere


    Aren't these handheld devices known to be unreliable?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    Aren't these handheld devices known to be unreliable?
    A guard doesnt even need to use one, he or she may form an opinion based on eyes/breath/slurred voice then arrest you and take you to the station for an intoxiliser test


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    I play music and a band member was getting a lift home after the gig with another member who hadn't been drinking (3 years ago), she was breathalyzed at a checkpoint and passed, but my mate was in the passenger seat and asked could he have a go on the breathalyzer.. he had 5 pints of Guinness and 3 small bottles of red wine, and he passed the test. The Guard said to him that if he had been stopped, he would have passed the test, but wouldn't recommend he take the chance again in the future.
    The problem there is that if the guard thinks you're drunk or can smell drink they can take you to the station for the full test regardless of the roadside result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    Id be surprised if it was legal to setup a check point on a motorway.
    They put up temporary speed limits and close all but one lane. The customs do it up north to check for the cheap stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭flanum


    id be very surprised if ye failed a breathalyser at the side of the road and the garda then waved you on!!! id be very surprised!... surely its logged onto his device and he has to log that back into his station!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    BTW Diabetes can give false positives....see a GP


    Also some diets can affect the readings


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,958 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    flanum wrote: »
    id be very surprised if ye failed a breathalyser at the side of the road and the garda then waved you on!!! id be very surprised!... surely its logged onto his device and he has to log that back into his station!!!

    It gives 3 readings: Zero, Pass and Fail. Zero is, well, no alcohol. Pass means there is alcohol but none to the extent that it will be over the limit if brought to the station. And fail if it's over the limit.

    Anyway, it's only a tool to help the Garda make the decision. He cannot base his opinion on that and that alone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    I play music and a band member was getting a lift home after the gig with another member who hadn't been drinking (3 years ago), she was breathalyzed at a checkpoint and passed, but my mate was in the passenger seat and asked could he have a go on the breathalyzer.. he had 5 pints of Guinness and 3 small bottles of red wine, and he passed the test. The Guard said to him that if he had been stopped, he would have passed the test, but wouldn't recommend he take the chance again in the future.

    i heard of people who passed the breathalyzer after 8 or 9 pints


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭frozenbanana


    It gives 3 readings: Zero, Pass and Fail. Zero is, well, no alcohol. Pass means there is alcohol but none to the extent that it will be over the limit if brought to the station. And fail if it's over the limit.

    Not anymore, the legislation changed recently and so did the roadside test. It's only pass and fail now.

    I find it hard to believe the OPs story that he was allowed to go after failing the test. It's just doesn't happen, there is no discretion here. Besides, what's the point of doing the drunk driving checkpoint if you're going to let drunk drivers go?

    Mouthwash, apple juice etc. only affect the reading for few minutas after yiu had it, more often than not it doesn't affect it at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,509 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    kev1.3s wrote: »
    hi I was traveling on the N11 this morning about 6.45 when I was stopped at a drink driving checkpoint, I'm not a heavy drinker any more but I've got a problem with these early morning checkpoints anyway but that aside I can hand on heart say that it has been a full seven days since I had a couple of pints, anyhow I took the test and low and behold it came up positive, not enough for to be taken in but enough to get a warning from the guard.
    I then informed the Guard that I had not had a drink in a week or so and her response was did I have a cigarette this morning which I replied no, I don't know what the **** a fag has to do with it anyway but my question is if these machines are not reliable why the **** are they being used to disrupt our day?
    And before anybody asks I didn't use mouthwash this morning!

    There is extra Garda activity in the South East at the moment.

    http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=9076&Lang=1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I play music and a band member was getting a lift home after the gig with another member who hadn't been drinking (3 years ago), she was breathalyzed at a checkpoint and passed, but my mate was in the passenger seat and asked could he have a go on the breathalyzer.. he had 5 pints of Guinness and 3 small bottles of red wine, and he passed the test. The Guard said to him that if he had been stopped, he would have passed the test, but wouldn't recommend he take the chance again in the future.

    A guy my wife knows in England always swears he passed after being stopped driving after quite a few pints in him. Never knew whether to beleive it or not but maybe it is true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    gurramok wrote: »
    Am I on the wrong roads, I havent seen a drink driving checkpoint in maybe 2 years or so.

    Also, has there ever been a checkpoint on the M50 in Dublin? Never saw one before.
    A checkpoint on a motorway? How do you think that would end?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,800 ✭✭✭✭Gary ITR


    I came through the old M50 toll not long before it closed and there must have been 50 guards the other side with sections coned off breathalying people as they came through

    Isn't that where Niall Quinn was caught too? Haven't seen anything like that on the M50 since


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    Gary ITR wrote: »
    I came through the old M50 toll not long before it closed and there must have been 50 guards the other side with sections coned off breathalying people as they came through

    Isn't that where Niall Quinn was caught too? Haven't seen anything like that on the M50 since
    Obviously it was easier back then with the toll. Now that it's a straight road it would be impossible to pull cars up going 100km.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭knotknowbody


    kev1.3s wrote: »
    anyhow I took the test and low and behold it came up positive, not enough for to be taken in but enough to get a warning from the guard.
    I find it hard to believe the OPs story that he was allowed to go after failing the test. It's just doesn't happen, there is no discretion here. Besides, what's the point of doing the drunk driving checkpoint if you're going to let drunk drivers go?

    It pisses me off when people don't read posts properly he didn't fail the breath test he had a positive reading that was below the fail threshold. Please people read the post properly it's for your own good, otherwise you just make yourself look stupid.


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