Finally The Legals System In This Country Gets Something Right

danniemcq · 30-03-2012 11:18AM #1

From www.donegalnow.com

A Donegal father who assaulted an ex-paramilitary who had raped and sexually abused his daughters has escaped jail.

The 37-year-old admitted assault causing harm to the paedophile at Rossnowlagh beach on September 17, 2009.

The man - who cannot be named to protect the identities of his daughters - admitted hitting the pervert with a golf club while he was sitting in his car. When the golf club broke he continued the attack by sticking the shaft of the stick into the abusers side.
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Judge O’Hagan admitted that the father had been “overpowered by emotion” when he discovered his two daughters were abused.

He imposed a sentence of 18 months on the father but replaced it with 150 hours community service.

http://www.donegalnow.com/sp/article_manager/detail/father_who_attacked_man_who_raped_his_daughters_escapes_jail

the system it works! it actually works!

Leeg17 · 30-03-2012 11:20AM

Article shortened.

wnolan1992 · 30-03-2012 11:21AM

Can the father deduct the time he spent beating the shíte out of the paramilitary lad from his community service?

AngryBollix · 30-03-2012 11:21AM

Isnt assault a crime too?

Pataman · 30-03-2012 11:21AM

Fair play, I wonder does that set a precedent in law?

Pataman · 30-03-2012 11:22AM

AngryBollix wrote: »

Isnt assault a crime too?

Not in those circumstances, its a community service

dj jarvis · 30-03-2012 11:26AM

[QUOTE=AngryBollix;77855635]Isnt assault a crime too?[/QUOTE]

some people deserve to be assaulted, and this is a prime example , and if you read the tread you will see he was convicted of assault and got community service - well done that judge

he's lucky, i would have beaten him to a pulp and then set fire to the car with him in it - with absolutely no remorse

for to long pedo's in this country have gotten away lightly and in my opinion this bloke got away very lightly indeed

HalloweenJack · 30-03-2012 11:30AM

Dangerous precedent to set.

It's basically saying it's open season on scumbags.

I know most people will agree with it but you're just dropping to their level if you go and beat them up.

AngryBollix · 30-03-2012 11:31AM

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Dangerous precedent to set.

It's basically saying it's open season on scumbags.

I know most people will agree with it but you're just dropping to their level if you go and beat them up.

True and theres every chance they will return the favour

TanG411 · 30-03-2012 11:33AM

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Dangerous precedent to set.

It's basically saying it's open season on scumbags.

I know most people will agree with it but you're just dropping to their level if you go and beat them up.

You're giving them what they deserve.

Anybody who thinks you need to 'Just speak to them' seriously hasn't a clue. Stuck in their middle class world, assuming everybody can benefit from talking.

Not true.

benway · 30-03-2012 11:33AM

Pataman wrote: »

Fair play, I wonder does that set a precedent in law?

Nope. Same sentencing principles that apply in all cases. If some of you had your way, and mitigation was discounted, people like the perpetrator here would be jailed for a substantial period. Be careful what you wish for.

30-03-2012 11:34AM

Surely this is akin to protecting your property against theft, which means the father would have been able to kill said scumbag.

wnolan1992 · 30-03-2012 11:34AM

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Dangerous precedent to set.

It's basically saying it's open season on scumbags.

I know most people will agree with it but you're just dropping to their level if you go and beat them up.

Better to give him a good beating and a few permanent scars than to let it go to court where he'll only get a few months for it.

No sympathy whatsoever for him, he should just count himself lucky he's still breathing. If I had daughters and he'd done anything to them you can bet he wouldn't be doing it again.

dj jarvis · 30-03-2012 11:34AM

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Dangerous precedent to set.

It's basically saying it's open season on scumbags.

I know most people will agree with it but you're just dropping to their level if you go and beat them up.

probably - but i would imagine most people would have no problem with someone who harms children , the elderly or women getting a severe beating as well as a draconian sentence - all well and good pontificating from afar ,
but if it was your children/mother/wife he harmed and you met face to face you would not do your best to end the ****ers life ??

you are a more restrained person than most

benway · 30-03-2012 11:37AM

Very interested to see what the "personal responsibility" crowd have to say about this. He did what he did, surely he should have to face the consequences?

I'm sick of all you bleedin' hearts making excuses for criminals...

GetWithIt · 30-03-2012 11:39AM

Paedogeddon!

danniemcq · 30-03-2012 11:39AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Surely this is akin to protecting your property against theft, which means the father would have been able to kill said scumbag.

only if caught in the middle of the act or attampting it or on defendants property

if it was me that caught someone attempting this to children of mine i don't think the "self defence law" would work as it would be a long, drawn out event over the course of several hours/days inflicting the most pain i could

AngryBollix · 30-03-2012 11:39AM

Killing or assaulting someone as an act of revenge shouldnt diminish it as a crime

danniemcq · 30-03-2012 11:42AM

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Dangerous precedent to set.

It's basically saying it's open season on scumbags.

I know most people will agree with it but you're just dropping to their level if you go and beat them up.

there is a difference in general scumbag and paedophiles

dj jarvis · 30-03-2012 11:46AM

AngryBollix wrote: »

Killing or assaulting someone as an act of revenge shouldnt diminish it as a crime

it doesn't , but it still does not change the fact that most of society would have no issue with what this guy done - in fact i would imagine a lot would have gone a lot further,
this father must be killing himself with grief , he was not able to protect his daughters from this man

so i FULLY understand and endorse is actions - i agree 2 wrong dont make a right in the eyes of the law , but in the real world he was 100% correct to take this action

if you dont want fathers crazy with guilt beating you with a golf club then dont go near his small children , end of story

i hope the pedo gets what coming to him in prison - unfortunately in Ireland sex criminals are segregated - pity that

SEPT 23 1989 · 30-03-2012 11:46AM

If that animal did that to my daughter i would have murdered him and felt no remorse for my actions

hairyprincess · 30-03-2012 11:49AM

Five minutes alone with that scumbag is all I would need. Five minutes. And no weapons. He'd never pee standing up again. In fact, he'd be extremely lucky to ever stand again :mad:

MagicSean · 30-03-2012 11:55AM

dj jarvis wrote: »

it doesn't , but it still does not change the fact that most of society would have no issue with what this guy done - in fact i would imagine a lot would have gone a lot further,
this father must be killing himself with grief , he was not able to protect his daughters from this man

so i FULLY understand and endorse is actions - i agree 2 wrong dont make a right in the eyes of the law , but in the real world he was 100% correct to take this action

if you dont want fathers crazy with guilt beating you with a golf club then dont go near his small children , end of story

i hope the pedo gets what coming to him in prison - unfortunately in Ireland sex criminals are segregated - pity that

What if his victim had subsequently been found not guilty of the sex assaults? Would it still be ok?

In any case, the man didn't get off because of who his victim was, he got off because the judge decided his emotional state prevented him having control of his actions

JupiterKid · 30-03-2012 12:06PM

boneyarsebogman wrote: »

Surely this is akin to protecting your property against theft, which means the father would have been able to kill said scumbag.

Children are not the property of their parents. They are in their care until they reach adulthood but that's not the same as property.

I think the judge made the right decision in his sentencing in this particular case. I don't know what I would have done to this pervert if he had abused my children.

El Weirdo · 30-03-2012 12:12PM

hairyprincess wrote: »

Five minutes alone with that scumbag is all I would need. Five minutes. And no weapons. He'd never pee standing up again. In fact, he'd be extremely lucky to ever stand again :mad:

Yeah, yeah. Of course you would. :rolleyes:

Why don't you head up to Donegal now and find him? I'm pretty sure if you ask around someone will give you his name. Go on.

booboo88 · 30-03-2012 12:16PM

I dont condone vigilantes but this guy deserved it, he sexually abused his two daughters, finally the law is heading in the right direction.
Actually come to think of it, its a damn shame the pervert is still breathing

Carter P Fly · 30-03-2012 12:38PM

I would not ever be in this situation. Said pedo would dissapear one night, never to be seen again, and no one who matters would ever care. Life would go on.

JupiterKid · 30-03-2012 12:44PM

booboo88 wrote: »

I dont condone vigilantes but this guy deserved it, he sexually abused his two daughters, finally the law is heading in the right direction.
Actually come to think of it, its a damn shame the pervert is still breathing

Just to clarify the paedophile did not abuse his own daughters, he abused the daughters of the man that subsequently attacked him.

30-03-2012 12:46PM

benway wrote: »

Very interested to see what the "personal responsibility" crowd have to say about this. He did what he did, surely he should have to face the consequences?

I'm sick of all you bleedin' hearts making excuses for criminals...

Seriously? He was convicted of assault, on a paedophile, who had abused more than one of his daughters.

He got community service for doing a community service, what's the matter with you?

30-03-2012 12:48PM

AngryBollix wrote: »

Killing or assaulting someone as an act of revenge shouldnt diminish it as a crime

If a dog or any other form of animal kills or injuries a person, they are likely to be put down. That man was a pedophile, thus losing whatever rights he had as a human being, so should be treated as an animal and put down.

JupiterKid wrote: »

Children are not the property of their parents. They are in their care until they reach adulthood but that's not the same as property.

I think the judge made the right decision in his sentencing in this particular case. I don't know what I would have done to this pervert if he had abused my children.

I realize that and it was a comment made off-the-cuff.

30-03-2012 12:48PM

bit off topic, but anyways.. Just read that a man got three years for stabbing a schoolboy and lacerating his liver.
Shouldnt stabbing someone be counted as Attempted Murder?

WTF?

grand little country.
:rolleyes:

Finally The Legals System In This Country Gets Something Right

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