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Are lap dancing clubs about exploiting men and their credit cards ?

  • 29-03-2012 05:54PM
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 564 ✭✭✭thecommietommy


    I was watching some American chat show and they were discussing lap dancing clubs etc. The usual man haters were condemninng them and said they were about exploiting women etc. To which one of the babes replied " Lap dancing clubs aren't about exploiting women, their about expoliting men and their credit cards " !!!!! To which she got a laugh and a round of applause from the audience :D

    So, women in particuliar, would you agree with her statement ??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    I was watching some American chat show and they were discussing lap dancing clubs etc. The usual man haters were condemninng them and said they were about exploiting women etc. To which one of the babes replied " Lap dancing clubs aren't about exploiting women, their about expoliting men and their credit cards " !!!!! To which she got a laugh and a round of applause from the audience :D

    So, women in particuliar, would you agree with her statement ??


    Why women in particular?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭LostCorkGuy


    Yes , i'm being exploited and there's nothing I can do about it :(

    It's so unjust :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Get a damn job Tommy! :pac:


  • Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    'Exploitation' is a word thats bandied about too often.

    Lap dancing clubs seem to be mutually beneficial to all concerned, the men and the women. Wheres the 'exploitation'???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    I would assume there's a whole world that I don't know about involved in lap dancing / stripping etc., but my first reaction would be that surely most of the girls involved in it choose to do it, to pay bills, same as any job.

    as long as the two parties are willing participants, I see no problem.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 564 ✭✭✭thecommietommy


    Why women in particular?
    Just to hear their prespective about this so called 'exploitation' of women. If a woman can make hundreds of euros per night by been in a bikini and swinging around a lap dancing pole well good luck to her I say.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Jake1 wrote: »
    'Exploitation' is a word thats bandied about too often.

    Lap dancing clubs seem to be mutually beneficial to all concerned, the men and the women. Wheres the 'exploitation'???

    Hear, hear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    If a lapdancer can earn more than a doctor or a lawyer, then fair play to them. It's all about money in this commercial age, and they're making serious capital.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    cringe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Just to hear their prespective about this so called 'exploitation' of women. If a woman can make hundreds of euros per night by been in a bikini and swinging around a lap dancing pole well good luck to her I say.


    But men would have an opinion on that too. It isn't gender specific to have an opinion on it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    Lap dancing clubs are totally sh*t. The worst type of anti climax. You wouldn't turn up to a bakery, have the baker shove some really nice cakes in your face and then hear him say, 'Don't actually eat that whatever you do'.


  • Posts: 18,160 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It takes two to tango. Feminists might say they exploit women, but the women in the clubs know exactly what they're doing - it's not as if they're doing it against their will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    A fool and his money are soon parted.


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Alexander Careful Nation


    token101 wrote: »
    Lap dancing clubs are totally sh*t. The worst type of anti climax. You wouldn't turn up to a bakery, have the baker shove some really nice cakes in your face and then hear him say, 'Don't actually eat that whatever you do'.
    i bet supermodels would pay for that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    bluewolf wrote: »
    i bet supermodels would pay for that

    Well I wouldn't. I want my cake and I want to f***ing eat it. Otherwise what the f*** is the point having cake? Legalise brothels, tax the sh*t out of hookers and watch the recession drain away like a jonny down the bowl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,056 ✭✭✭✭SeanW


    Just to hear their prespective about this so called 'exploitation' of women. If a woman can make hundreds of euros per night by been in a bikini and swinging around a lap dancing pole well good luck to her I say.
    I think the problem is that feminists are mostly hate-filled lesbians that want to impose Neo-Victorian standards on men.

    Exploitation of women (where there's no co-ercion) is such a ridiculous claim that anyone making it should be laughed into oblivion.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    SeanW wrote: »
    I think the problem is that feminists are mostly hate-filled lesbians that want to impose Neo-Victorian standards on men.

    They'll turn their bra burning lighters on you next :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭Radharc na Sleibhte


    token101 wrote: »
    Lap dancing clubs are totally sh*t. The worst type of anti climax. You wouldn't turn up to a bakery, have the baker shove some really nice cakes in your face and then hear him say, 'Don't actually eat that whatever you do'.

    Youre goin to the wrong ones!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭The_Thing


    token101 wrote: »
    Lap dancing clubs are totally sh*t. The worst type of anti climax. You wouldn't turn up to a bakery, have the baker shove some really nice cakes in your face and then hear him say, 'Don't actually eat that whatever you do'.

    I wouldn't have bothered posting in this thread but for the fact you mentioned a bakery:

    Several years ago before he got married a friend of mine (honestly, I'm not talking about myself here) would regularly visit the local lap-dancing club because of one particular girl from eastern Europe. This girl did actually work in a bakery during the week and at week-ends would work in the club. She told him that she would make about €600 a night in the club.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Lap Dancing clubs are about exploiting fools, a total waste of space, you are never going to click a lap dancer so what is the point.

    Go to coppers instead.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭SteppingStone


    Both men and women. As a woman I personally couldn't strip naked for strange men mainly elderly men. Dance on them pretending to be interested in them while they practically drool and pretend to beinterested in them, I think its degrading. Just my opinion.:pac: Wouldn't it be cheaper for men to just have a you know what than to spend stupid amounts of money for someone you can't even touch:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭slavetothegrind


    there was a fella a few years back brought a case against a dublin club for relieving him of 20 grand from his visa card one night.

    He lost when the club showed the cctv footage of him ossified and authorising each transaction at the correct timestamp.

    fools and their money alright....

    still.....BOOBIES! :P

    boo to fake boobies :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Mickey Dazzler


    Ive been in many many strip clubs and been horrifically exploited in each and every one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    SeanW wrote: »
    I think the problem is that feminists are mostly hate-filled lesbians that want to impose Neo-Victorian standards on men.

    Exploitation of women (where there's no co-ercion) is such a ridiculous claim that anyone making it should be laughed into oblivion.

    lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Mr.Biscuits


    lol

    You're right - there is not much evidence in that post that any real thought took place - but deserving of a ban? Not sure Boards ever set out to be a forum where only politically correct views were to be aired.

    The user is undoubtedly wrong in his contention but it is quite well accepted that much of the grass roots of the feminist movement were lesbians and many of them were unquestionably hate filled. Just take a look at the SCUM manifesto for evidence of that and so it is quite understandably (even if incorrect) for people to think of today's feminists in the same vain as the feminists that proceeded them.

    Anyway, both sides get exploited in such establishments - in much the same way that both sides do when then Dreamboys and the Chippendales come to town.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Bunch of gormless fools with money and smart girls with not very much clothes on.

    Let nature take its course I reckon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    No, nobody forces customers to attend lapdancing clubs, therefore where is the exploitation?
    Most of the time, lapdancers choose to do the work (and fair play to them) but there can, in seedier quarters, be coercion into working in the sex industry (including stripping).
    You're right - there is not much evidence in that post that any real thought took place - but deserving of a ban? Not sure Boards ever set out to be a forum where only politically correct views were to be aired.
    Probably because the mods are sick sh1t of that crap being trotted out over and over and over and over - and in fairness, they've been lenient (often too lenient IMO) about it up to now. What was said wasn't politically incorrect, it was just retarded. And based on nothing but something the person "feels".
    it is quite well accepted that much of the grass roots of the feminist movement were lesbians and many of them were unquestionably hate filled.
    Third Wave. What about the women's movements prior to that? Like the Suffragettes. I'm pretty glad those chicks took action.
    Just take a look at the SCUM manifesto for evidence of that and so it is quite understandably (even if incorrect) for people to think of today's feminists in the same vain as the feminists that proceeded them.
    A crazed fringe movement that's hardly going to be taken seriously - and really shouldn't be used as a stick to beat feminism as a whole with. There are some militant, crackpot, man-hating feminists, yes, but tarring all or even most feminism with that brush is getting really tiresome. And it's extremely lazy - and not understandable IMO.
    Re Chippendales etc: no exploitation of the women going to those spectacles whatsoever, and no exploitation of the strippers in the sense that they choose the work - however... women are sometimes allowed to grope the men which is ****ing horrible. Can't believe it's allowed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    I can understand some frustrated sex starved man paying for a rattle but what's the point in paying for some chick to shake her tits in your face? Complete waste of money IMO.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭Brain Stroking


    If people want to look at tits i say let them.

    If people want to show their tits for money then i say let them.

    If people who never ever would dream of entering such establishments are offended by what they perceive might be going on, then i say let them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 markus pride


    Women want the liberty to choose to do as they please, but without having to take any responsibility for their own bad choices.

    Feminism has induced a complex in women that they are always the victim in any problematic situation, and this attitude will continue to prevail until males and sensible females take a stand against it. The idea that - exploiting men's weakness for the female form to gain money - is in fact exploitative of women is thoroughly absurd, and I'm glad this ridiculous stance was shut down on television where usually the woman is a supreme being who is always right.


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