Anger of the public is rising

gremha · 23-03-2012 03:02PM #1

This morning I was dropping my kid off to school, it's on a busy road & there's a bus stop right outside the main gate (which always struck me as a dangerous place to put it, but I didn't plan it), indented off the road..

Sometimes parents pull up in the bus stop, drop their kids & drive straight off again, no more than a 30-60 second exercise.

This morning there were two Gardai at the bus stop, standing back from it, behind a high wall.

A car pulled up & the door opened, a child aged about ten kissed it's mother (assume it was it's mother) & was getting out of the car when the two Gardai stepped out. One had his notebook/ticketbook out already & the other walked around the back of the car, I guess inspecting it. The child got out & stood on the path watching.

As the garda with the book was speaking to the driver. A pedestrian walking their child across the road started shouting at them "You should be arresting corrupt politicians instead of harassing parents dropping their kids to school" Then another on the side where the car was started shouting at them to "Leave the poor woman alone", then another started shouting something I was just out of earshot to hear clearly, all three of them approached the Guards & were shouting at them, the Garda motioned for the woman to go & then they said something to each other & to the two men & woman who had been shouting at them. They then walked away leaving the three bystanders shouting after them to "go after the real crooks".

No it surprised me as it was a spontaneous act which could have ended up badly for all the civilians involved, but it did demonstrate the anger of the public at recent events.

I know there's a couple of demonstrations & protests coming up, if this was anything to go by, We're probably going to see a large turnout & quite angry mobs.

prinz · 23-03-2012 03:04PM

Ignorant fools should my their own business and let the gardaí do their jobs.

admiralofthefleet · 23-03-2012 03:05PM

gremha wrote: »

This morning I was dropping my kid off to school, it's on a busy road & there's a bus stop right outside the main gate (which always struck me as a dangerous place to put it, but I didn't plan it), indented off the road..

Sometimes parents pull up in the bus stop, drop their kids & drive straight off again, no more than a 30-60 second exercise.

This morning there were two Gardai at the bus stop, standing back from it, behind a high wall.

A car pulled up & the door opened, a child aged about ten kissed it's mother (assume it was it's mother) & was getting out of the car when the two Gardai stepped out. One had his notebook/ticketbook out already & the other walked around the back of the car, I guess inspecting it. The child got out & stood on the path watching.

As the garda with the book was speaking to the driver. A pedestrian walking their child across the road started shouting at them "You should be arresting corrupt politicians instead of harassing parents dropping their kids to school" Then another on the side where the car was started shouting at them to "Leave the poor woman alone", then another started shouting something I was just out of earshot to hear clearly, all three of them approached the Guards & were shouting at them, the Garda motioned for the woman to go & then they said something to each other & to the two men & woman who had been shouting at them. They then walked away leaving the three bystanders shouting after them to "go after the real crooks".

No it surprised me as it was a spontaneous act which could have ended up badly for all the civilians involved, but it did demonstrate the anger of the public at recent events.

I know there's a couple of demonstrations & protests coming up, if this was anything to go by, We're probably going to see a large turnout & quite angry mobs.

hopefully. weve been too passive for far too long

who the fug · 23-03-2012 03:07PM

prinz wrote: »

Ignorant fools should my their own business and let the gardaí do their jobs.

Drink tea and eat their hang sandwiches

Anyway OP, apathy will rule once more, next week

23-03-2012 03:07PM

If parents would stop parking everywhere in the vicinity of schools, swarming the roads, and often being a hazard, we'd get somewhere
good on the gardai for going out there

abouttobebanned · 23-03-2012 03:07PM

prinz wrote: »

Ignorant fools should my their own business and let the gardaí do their jobs.

The boards do gooders brigade arrives earlier than usual.

kincsem · 23-03-2012 03:07PM

I live 50 yards from a school. I'm fed up with aggressive, inconsiderate drivers clogging up the road.

crusher000 · 23-03-2012 03:08PM

Your dead right cause nobody in authority has ever abused their power. We should follow their example and live our lives as morally correct as them . Well done to the by standers.

Ghandee · 23-03-2012 03:09PM

prinz wrote: »

Ignorant fools should my their own business and let the gardaí do their jobs.

Even if the job in question was issuing a ticket of some sort to a mother dropping her child off at school?

The mind boggles some times?

rgmmg · 23-03-2012 03:09PM

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

hopefully. weve been too passive for far too long

he said, as he passed wind, yawned and went back to sleep

AnonoBoy · 23-03-2012 03:10PM

Let's shout at Gardai for issuing parking tickets. That'll show Bertie Ahern what for!

irelandrover · 23-03-2012 03:10PM

I live across the road from a school and idiot parents parking wherever they want really annoys me. I'd love to see the guards do something about it.

prinz · 23-03-2012 03:11PM

Some things never change... "do gooder" is still an insult according to some. Well look forward to more corruption and dirtbags leading the country.

The King of Moo · 23-03-2012 03:14PM

crusher000 wrote: »

Your dead right cause nobody in authority has ever abused their power. We should follow their example and live our lives as morally correct as them . Well done to the by standers.

Ghandee wrote: »

Even if the job in question was issuing a ticket of some sort to a mother dropping her child off at school?

The mind boggles some times?

How did they know they were giving her a ticket? Apparently the guards let the woman go without a ticket anyway.

Even if they had ticketed her, how did the people giving out know what it was for? It might have been completely justified, and her being a mother with a child shouldn't change that.

If people see guards clearly abusing their power or committing an injustice, then it's fine to express anger at that.

But I doubt the people complaining had any clue about what was going on between the guards and the woman, especially if they seem to think ordinary guards on patrol can just go into a bank and arrest high-ranking officials at will.

MaxSteele · 23-03-2012 03:14PM

prinz wrote: »

Ignorant fools should my their own business and let the gardaí do their jobs.

By ticketing parents (who probably have work and more important things to be doing) pulling over for ten seconds to drop their kids off to school ??

Great logic and use of Garda resources right there.

Anyone · 23-03-2012 03:14PM

gremha wrote: »

I know there's a couple of demonstrations & protests coming up, if this was anything to go by, We're probably going to see a large turnout & quite angry mobs.

A few people shouting at the cops has made you think that? Hate to burst your bubble, but people have been shouting at the police since time began.

crusher000 · 23-03-2012 03:14PM

Maybe parents should F**k kids out of the car as they pass the school without stopping or let them run across the road in front of traffic. Maybe we should close the schools to stop this most vulgar practise , or just get the guards to send everyone that ever parked where they shouldn't a ticket. That's it I'm off to hand myself in at the local station because i've been parking in places I shouldn't for the last 15 years.

UDP · 23-03-2012 03:14PM

Ghandee wrote: »

Even if the job in question was issuing a ticket of some sort to a mother dropping her child off at school?

of course! If the mother was breaking the law then she should get a ticket. Otherwise what is the point of the law.

This whole thing of X should not get prosecuted for breaking the law because someone broke a bigger law is ridiculus. Everyone who breaks the law should get done unless there is a very very good reason e.g. a law was broken to save a life or that kind of thing.

The King of Moo · 23-03-2012 03:15PM

MaxSteele wrote: »

By ticketing parents (who probably have work and more important things to be doing) pulling over for ten seconds to drop their kids off to school ??

Great logic and use of Garda resources right there.

Unless the OP forgot to mention it, they didn't give her a ticket.

mikom · 23-03-2012 03:15PM

Fine Gael Ard fheis on Sat the 31st......... be there or be square.

Also tomorrow...

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wyndham · 23-03-2012 03:18PM

Kid should be walking to school anyway. fat bastard.

prinz · 23-03-2012 03:18PM

MaxSteele wrote: »

By ticketing parents (who probably have work and more important things to be doing) pulling over for ten seconds to drop their kids off to school ??.

Times how many cars? There's no point having laws of they aren't going to be enforced, that goes for parking where you shouldn't and committing billio euro frauds. This thing about 'ah sure it's only pulling over for ten seconds/it's only one piece of litter/ it's only a few illegal cigarettes/it's only cheap jewellery from some lad a met in a pub/it's only a few quid there Bertie....' It all adds up.

Where do we draw the line and say **** it, if it's the law follow it. There's far too much of this 'it's only....' If one person drops a piece of litter it's only a crisp packet. If one hundred do it's a mess.

23-03-2012 03:19PM

crusher000 wrote: »

Maybe parents should F**k kids out of the car as they pass the school without stopping or let them run across the road in front of traffic. Maybe we should close the schools to stop this most vulgar practise , or just get the guards to send everyone that ever parked where they shouldn't a ticket. That's it I'm off to hand myself in at the local station because i've been parking in places I shouldn't for the last 15 years.

you're right, it's a choice between disobeying the law and throwing children out the window

will you ever cop on :rolleyes:

My name is URL · 23-03-2012 03:21PM

Not the best of approaches to take, giving out to ordinary Gardai doing their jobs.. but it's understandable that a lot of anger exists out there, and that some of it will inevitably be misdirected. Over the last couple of years I've noticed a marked increase in tensions between the 'classes'.. only a matter of time before it boils over, imo.

AboutTwoFiddy · 23-03-2012 03:23PM

Ghandee wrote: »

Even if the job in question was issuing a ticket of some sort to a mother dropping her child off at school?

The mind boggles some times?

They weren't issuing a ticket for a mother dropping her child off, they were doing it for parking illegally. The way some parents stop their cars in mid traffic outside schools is ridiculous, delighted the gardai are pulling them up on it. If it was a white van parking on a double yellow nobody would complain about a ticket.

MaxSteele · 23-03-2012 03:29PM

prinz wrote: »

Times how many cars? There's no point having laws of they aren't going to be enforced, that goes for parking where you shouldn't and committing billio euro frauds. This thing about 'ah sure it's only pulling over for ten seconds/it's only one piece of litter/ it's only a few illegal cigarettes/it's only cheap jewellery from some lad a met in a pub/it's only a few quid there Bertie....' It all adds up.

Where do we draw the line and say **** it, if it's the law follow it. There's far too much of this 'it's only....' If one person drops a piece of litter it's only a crisp packet. If one hundred do it's a mess.

Christ it's hardly bringing the place to a standstill now is it? We all park somewhere illegal for ten seconds, to drop someone off, whether it's your child to school or a friend at the airport. I can't actually fathom how you can compare this to stealing or smuggling. A completely victimless "crime". (I cringed referring to it as a crime btw). If you believe a parent should be made fork out an 80 euro fine to some lardass, prick in blue to fill his weekly notebook for something as miniscule and irrelevent as that, well then I feel for you.

dark crystal · 23-03-2012 03:29PM

prinz wrote: »

Times how many cars? There's no point having laws of they aren't going to be enforced, that goes for parking where you shouldn't and committing billio euro frauds. This thing about 'ah sure it's only pulling over for ten seconds/it's only one piece of litter/ it's only a few illegal cigarettes/it's only cheap jewellery from some lad a met in a pub/it's only a few quid there Bertie....' It all adds up.

Where do we draw the line and say **** it, if it's the law follow it. There's far too much of this

Thing is, the woman dropping her child to school is most probably an otherwise law abiding, tax paying citizen doing nothing other than trying to get her child to school safely and get to work on time and getting bother from the police for doing so.

On the other hand, you have the likes of Sean Fitz, Bertie and all his cronies pocketing thousands and getting away with it, with accusations of police corruption into the bargain.

I can see where people might find the injustice of it alright.

I'm not condoning law breaking of any sort, but the ordinary Joe Soap has had enough of being culpable for any minor crime and misdemeanour, yet those in power get away scot-free for the major ones.

Anyone · 23-03-2012 03:31PM

Op never said they were issuing tickets, who knows maybe the guards were looking at the "Baby on Board" sticker, and instead got verbally abbused by some grumpy women! OP, by any chance, were any of the women wearing pyjamas?

23-03-2012 03:32PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Not the best of approaches to take, giving out to ordinary Gardai doing their jobs...

Thats the Gardai doing a job and its the only job i see Gardai doing these days. If you are mugged robbed broken into. You Wont get back what was stolen. They wont protect you from getting a punch, they wont catch who did it and no investigation will be done.

I dont blame the garda but i would blame who is running them. They will go were the money is.

Gee Bag · 23-03-2012 03:33PM

Was this a special school for the children of Joe Duffy listeners?

prinz · 23-03-2012 03:33PM

MaxSteele wrote: »

If you believe a parent should be made fork out an 80 euro fine to some lardass, prick in blue to fill his weekly notebook for something as miniscule and irrelevent as that, well then I feel for you.

Did she fork anything out? No. Did she even actually get a ticket? Doesn't seem like it. Were any of the gardaí in question overweight? We have no idea. Were they pricks? They were doing their jobs, if that makes you a prick maybe so. Feel for me away. I am not the one creating the culture of letting people away with crimes of any sort.

dark crystal wrote: »

Thing is, the woman dropping her child to school is most probably an otherwise law abiding, tax paying citizen doing nothing other than trying to get her child to school safely and get to work on time and getting bother from the police for doing so..

And? What if she drove through a red light? Or overtook dangerously? Or was on the mobile phone or fixing her make up? What if she finished her breakfast and threw rubbish out the window? Are they supposed to sit there and ignore it and say 'ah well otherwise she's a decent sort'.... that kind of parochial crap has been accepted too long in this country. "Ah well judge, he's a good family man, I am sure that child porn was a mistake.."

dark crystal wrote: »

On the other hand, you have the likes of Sean Fitz, Bertie and all his cronies pocketing thousands and getting away with it, with accusations of police corruption into the bargain..

Two different issues.

Anger of the public is rising

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