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Son Of General Retro Discussion

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  • Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So i was in an "arcade" the other day for the first time in ages. I won't say which one for fear of offending anyone, but it was in a shopping centre in south Dublin, and can't have been very old, because i don't think it was there the last time i was, a year or so ago.

    I was shocked to see what passes for an arcade these days. A half empty room with a couple of basketball machines, a few racing games, a couple of pool tables, and about a hundred casino jackpot machines with the dodgiest looking people sitting at them shoveling change in and hoping to win money. There wasn't one interesting or unique cab in the whole place.

    It made me glad i have a mame cabinet in my house so i can relive the glory days of the arcade scene. I remember when every chip shop or taxi office had a street fighter 2 machine, and if you went to an arcade you could expect to stick a 20p on the bezel of a proper cab, wait for your turn, and watch some games and have a laugh, and maybe learn something in the process.

    Is this the way arcades are everywhere now, or is there somewhere i can go to play a decent shooter or old school fighter that still draws a crowd? Does anyone care anymore?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,918 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    So i was in an "arcade" the other day for the first time in ages. I won't say which one for fear of offending anyone, but it was in a shopping centre in south Dublin, and can't have been very old, because i don't think it was there the last time i was, a year or so ago.

    I was shocked to see what passes for an arcade these days. A half empty room with a couple of basketball machines, a few racing games, a couple of pool tables, and about a hundred casino jackpot machines with the dodgiest looking people sitting at them shoveling change in and hoping to win money. There wasn't one interesting or unique cab in the whole place.

    It made me glad i have a mame cabinet in my house so i can relive the glory days of the arcade scene. I remember when every chip shop or taxi office had a street fighter 2 machine, and if you went to an arcade you could expect to stick a 20p on the bezel of a proper cab, wait for your turn, and watch some games and have a laugh, and maybe learn something in the process.

    Is this the way arcades are everywhere now, or is there somewhere i can go to play a decent shooter or old school fighter that still draws a crowd? Does anyone care anymore?

    It's more or less the same in that arcade place in Bray as well.
    Seems to be the same in most places in Ireland these days.

    I really dislike it when they have so many of those casino type machines. It's just damn depressing to see people feeding all their money into them(and most of those people look like the probably have some sort of restraining orders for most of the local schools).

    Anyone been in to Quirkeys in the last while? What's it like these days?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Is this the way arcades are everywhere now,
    Back in the 80s I would go to arcades since the games/technology was far better than what I had at home. This gap has closed so they would need something very special to get me in an arcade. I think a big turning point was SF2, where people had a snes which was very close to the arcade.

    Its like pubs being emptier for football, nowadays people have sky and the big TV screen. I remember arcades getting in big screen cabs as the gimmick to make them different from playing at home. But now these back lit big screen cabs look pretty poor compared to what many people have at home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Steve SI wrote: »
    Anyone been in to Quirkeys in the last while? What's it like these days?

    114.jpg

    Arcades are dead, long live personal cabs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,644 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    EnterNow wrote: »
    114.jpg

    Arcades are dead, long live personal cabs.

    Frackin' terrible case of acne there.

    My local arcade was poor back in the day. Nowadays, I'd need a personal escort to go in.

    Ms. Pacman, Pang and Tetris were the highlights. And I reigned supreme on Tetris.


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  • Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    rubadub wrote: »
    Back in the 80s I would go to arcades since the games/technology was far better than what I had at home. This gap has closed so they would need something very special to get me in an arcade. I think a big turning point was SF2, where people had a snes which was very close to the arcade.

    For me it was the social aspect, as well as the game technology. I was in arcades a lot in the early nineties, up till about ,93 or ,94, around the time that home consoles had started to get almost as good as arcade hardware, and even though i owned a SNES and a megadrive at the time, i knew that there was always going to be a bunch of lads hanging around the Street Fighter 2 Hyper fighting machines in the local bowling alley, and whether i knew them or not, i could bring a couple of pounds worth of 20p pieces, and jump in and shoot the sh1t, instead of just playing almost the same game alone in my room.

    It's funny, most people feel that it was the affordability of home consoles like the SNES that killed the arcade scene, and while that's probably true, it only gave you the game fix. For the most part you lost out on the social aspect, and particularly on being able to learn tricks and secrets and measure yourself against other players in a pre-internet, pre-online leaderboards era.

    It was another ten years before consoles got properly connected with things like live chat and xbox live, and could even come close to recreating the social buzz of an arcade for me, with a bunch of people all playing and chatting together, but by then arcades were as dead as a dodo anyway. :(


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    Its all gimmicks now with arcade machines, Huge machine guns, or steering Boats, dancing games. No wonder the places are dead. Id love to open a pub or something with a load of upright cabs in it, id say you would make a fortune, like that lad over in the US, i think his bar was in chasing ghosts.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,943 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Bray Bowl is still keeping it real with Silent Scope, Time Crisis 2/3 and Police 24/7!

    Quite impressive considering the amount of drunken folk who abuse them three nights a week with BYOB.

    Slot machines = the Pachinko parlours of the West. Grim stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Slot machines = the Pachinko parlours of the West. Grim stuff.

    I'm looking in to getting a Pachinko machine. Is the noise really as deafening as 'they' say? Should I wear airport runway ear guards when venturing in to parlours on my Japan trip?


  • Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    keithgeo wrote: »
    Its all gimmicks now with arcade machines, Huge machine guns, or steering Boats, dancing games. No wonder the places are dead

    I know a small arcade in a little village in Wexford near our holiday home that's been practically unchanged since the mid nineties. It was never up to much then, but sadly, it's the best arcade i know now. Not because of any conscious decision by the owner or anything, but just because they haven't spent a penny on getting any new machines in in about twenty years. The scene died, and they just kept the place open, and kept blowing the dust out of the machines every so often. Every now and again one goes bang, and they just wheel it out to a shed full of old cabs that would make anyone on this board's eyes pop.

    There's still a Neo Geo in the corner, running puzzle bobble on a big screen CRT. It's funny, i own my own cab, and puzle bobble is rarely off it, but I still look forward to going there at least once or twice a summer and throwing 50cent pieces into it and remembering what things were like back in the day. There's nothing like the real thing....:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,138 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    What's the name of the arcade?

    Man, if I only had a time machine. I'd love to visit Bray seafront again in the early to mid 90s. My memory of the place gets hazier by the day.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,811 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    My interest in arcades waned when I got my 3DO, no sniggering down the back, and Road Rash and The Need For Speed, at that point racing games had become more interesting at home so there were fewer and fewer trips to arcades.
    Certain experiences are better there, Starblade being one, Stun Runner another, but when I saw Cruisin USA in the arcade I knew the end was nigh!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,943 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Pyongyang wrote: »
    I'm looking in to getting a Pachinko machine. Is the noise really as deafening as 'they' say? Should I wear airport runway ear guards when venturing in to parlours on my Japan trip?

    They're just really annoying. Countless times you think you've stumbled across an arcade but it's just a ****ing pachinko parlour. They're pretty damn noisy: the sound of falling balls, ringing bells and anime soundbites in this insane cacophony of noise. Worth experiencing for around ten seconds.

    Just stick to here instead:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭ghostchant


    Nothing worse than walking up 4 or 5 floors of a Pachinko parlour thinking you'd eventually get to the arcade part, only to trudge sadly back down to the deafening/mocking sound of those machines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,138 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Fair enough if people like Pachinko I wouldn't want to deny them a machine, but why do they need so many? I don't understand? Do you get variation on the same level as say, pinball machines? Or is it exactly the same thing with different artwork etc?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,943 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Even the arcades have an uneven distribution of signal: noise these days. Three or four floors of photo booths, collectible cards, crane games (although they are addictive) etc... for every one of proper, traditional arcade cabs. Fighting games have undergone a bit of a resurgence though, meaning there's usually a floor of Tekken / Blazblue / Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Tournament Special Collector's Edition 2012 Version 3 cabs as well.
    o1s1n wrote: »
    Fair enough if people like Pachinko I wouldn't want to deny them a machine, but why do they need so many? I don't understand? Do you get variation on the same level as say, pinball machines? Or is it exactly the same thing with different artwork etc?

    As far as I know it's like a weird hybrid of pinball and slots: seems rather mindless TBH. The parlours do tend to be pretty damn full, although couldn't tell you how the machines differ. The machines tend to be of different licences and of rather high production values, with video screens and all sorts of bells and whistles. Usually anime licenses like Evangelion or Fist of the North Star. Sega are a huge manufacturer of them.


  • Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    o1s1n wrote: »
    What's the name of the arcade?

    It's the Glider in Blackwater, about 20 mins outside of wexford town. it's really just a tin barn with a few machines in it. If you're asking because of the shed full of dead cabs, i know there was an original pacman in there a couple of years back, and a few other nice ones. I think someone connected with it is a bit of a collector, but you wouldn't know it from the general look of the place.

    Hey, would there be any interest here (maybe with the help of some mods) in getting a thread going about what retro machines are still available to the public, and what arcades they're in, if one doesn't already exist?
    o1s1n wrote: »
    Man, if I only had a time machine. I'd love to visit Bray seafront again in the early to mid 90s. My memory of the place gets hazier by the day.

    Yeah, for me it was the Dundrum Bowl. It was great until it flooded in 1993. It closed down and never really recovered, so my arcade days were cut short. It was levelled and part of Dundrum shopping centre was built in it's place. Sniff..:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,918 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    I see Dragons Lair is coming to the kinetic on the 360.

    http://playxbla.com/dragons-lair-for-xbla-with-a-secret/

    Apologies for the big pic, and the fact it's a bmp. It's what the have on the linked URL :o

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,010 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Isn't Dragon's Lair the one where you have to press the correct button really quickly, or you die?

    On KINECT?

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Have just discovered Retro Gamer & GamesTM are available on Zinio on my tablet!
    Happehs!
    /dance

    Looks like they were only just added too. No back issues


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    Hey guess what? I just got an email their saying i won a 3DS off that club nintendo site! One of those 3 special edition ones, im raging now cause i think i picked the pink one for the girlfriend!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    @Cheggers: Congrats Cheggers! :)

    @StevenEmmanuelleUlyssesSI: Wrong time to get rid of my Kinect. In fairness I hadn't used the thing since last Summer so I got shot of it. Once thing I will say though, there better be no Kinect lag or there will be some frustrated gamers out there! :D

    @Mr.U: I wonder how many new cases of tinitus are diagnosed in Japan each year? That said, I've been looking up Pachinko videos and I'm even more dying to get one!

    If a Darius or SHMUP themed Pachislot machine exsits then... well, I might have an accident.






    In this video, Retr0gamer's doppleganger shows us how to play Pachinko. :pac:



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,943 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    So apparently Ninja Gaiden 3 is, as possibly expected, a load of arse. It does, however, feature a main villain who builds an army of dinosaurs. There is at least one T-Rex boss fight.

    In other news, this looks awesome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,021 ✭✭✭Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy


    In other news, this looks awesome.

    *sees Hideyoshi*
    "plzbeNeneplzbeNeneplzbeNene"
    *check Bulbapedia* - she's there! (so is Okuni)
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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,932 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    So apparently Ninja Gaiden 3 is, as possibly expected, a load of arse. It does, however, feature a main villain who builds an army of dinosaurs. There is at least one T-Rex boss fight.

    Just reading it there. So they made the game stupidly easily taking away the one thing that made the series so compelling. Added stealth sections that have no place in a ninja gaiden game and then took out the limb removal system that added so much depth and humour to the second game and replaced it with a button prompt to kill unarmed and badly injured enemies that in a real lack of taste beg for their lives.

    Bring back Itagaki, he was an asshole but he knows how to make great games.

    At least we have DMC.... :'(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,021 ✭✭✭Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    Is it just my laptop or when on ebay.ie under video games is the "list all items" link gone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    Watching all those videos up there has made we want to go to japan even more now....:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Watching all those videos up there has made we want to go to japan even more now....:(

    Because Retr0sl0t hosts a pachinko show? :D

    3 and a bit months to go for our trip! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,021 ✭✭✭Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy


    Watching all those videos up there has made we want to go to japan even more now....:(
    TamaGe segments of GCCX makes me wanna go, like the little old sweet shops that still have games or Kawasaki Warehouse in the Fatal Fury episode (@the TamaGe part)
    love when the bit with Hang On, dat Cameraman Abe! :pac:


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