Diamond Jubilee

KeithAFC · 20-03-2012 07:37PM #1

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17438874

Was great to see her majesty the Queen rededicate herself to the United Kingdom today. With her visit to the Irish Republic and her great dignity towards the Irish people, perhaps this is the perfect time for people in the Republic to celebrate the up coming Jubilee. After all, Dublin has a big following of British traditions and Monarchists.

Lets hope this is the start to a new beginning.

Seems more suitable in here than AH but do you think there will be any celebrations and even political backing of this event in the Republic? Will be interesting to hear any views on this.

sarumite · 20-03-2012 07:51PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17438874

Was great to see her majesty the Queen rededicate herself to the United Kingdom today. With her visit to the Irish Republic and her great dignity towards the Irish people, perhaps this is the perfect time for people in the Republic to celebrate the up coming Jubilee. After all, Dublin has a big following of British traditions and Monarchists.

Lets hope this is the start to a new beginning.

Seems more suitable in here than AH but do you think there will be any celebrations and even political backing of this event in the Republic? Will be interesting to hear any views on this.

At best, I personally think at this belongs in the cafe myself, but that's only my opinion. As for your question, if Irish people want to celebrate it/make reference to it more power to them. However I don't think there needs to be any official recognition. Afterall, she is not our monarch and if we were to make a special exception for this (non)event we would have to make it for every other (non)event and personally I think there are too many monarchs (or similar) in the world for that.

votecounts · 20-03-2012 07:56PM

I could be wrong but wasn't a similar thread closed by a Mod. A ban on the OP surely for trolling.

[MOD]Please just use the Report function if you believe something is trolling. Don't comment on thread, which will earn you an infraction even if the reported post is trolling.

For the record, a genuine belief that the Republic might in some way wish to mark a neighouring country's celebration is not trolling.[/MOD]

KeithAFC · 20-03-2012 08:01PM

votecounts wrote: »

I could be wrong but wasn't a similar thread closed by a Mod. A ban on the OP surely for trolling.

No. Mod said it would be more suitable in here.

pawrick · 20-03-2012 08:01PM

Can't see why we would celebrate this, it's barely news worthy here. No offence to UK meant.

KeithAFC · 20-03-2012 08:05PM

pawrick wrote: »

Can't see why we would celebrate this, it's barely news worthy here. No offence to UK meant.

Would have thought there would be some event from politicians given the recent visit last year? I think this could be a good time.

sarumite · 20-03-2012 08:12PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Would have thought there would be some event from politicians given the recent visit last year? I think this could be a good time.

The President of Ireland visited London even more recently.

tiktock7aclock · 20-03-2012 08:20PM

As much as Irish people like to play it down, Ireland has inherited many customs and traditions from the UK, albeit alongside our own individual culture. The Common Law systems here is modelled around the UK model ffs. Anything that increases bonds between these two countries is a bonus. The UK is our largest trading partner, it's in our interests to cooperate further. At least they aren't disrespecting our country by leaking annual Government budgets like the Germans do in the Reichstag for example:mad:

p1akuw47h5r3it · 20-03-2012 08:23PM

I honestly couldn't give a ****e if it's her golden jubilee.

walshb · 20-03-2012 08:27PM

I am no royal lover but I have a lot of admiration for the Queen. To do what she has been doing for so long with such enthusiasm and passion at her age really is remarkable.

I have seen her many times on television, and must say, the only time I felt sorry for her at a function was when she was at Dublin Castle in May and she was made greet dozens and dozens of absolute nobodies for about 40 bloody minutes. I almost fainted just watching. It really was completely unnecessary, and muts have been very very tiring for her.

later12 · 20-03-2012 08:27PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Dublin has a big following of British traditions and Monarchists.

Monarchists? No, I don't believe there's any credible basis for that suggestion.

Ireland is by no means a template republic. And sure, quaintly frolicking about in breeches and hats might seem like fun.

Even so, celebrating monarchy would be a bewilderingly regressive step for any country describing itself as a Republic.

Lemming · 20-03-2012 08:31PM

I really doubt it would be 'celebrated' by organised events or such, but I should imagine that her jubilee would be acknowledged along with well-wishes by Enda Kenny and a few other politicians like Dublin city mayor on behalf of the Irish people.

gurramok · 20-03-2012 09:19PM

That big following of British traditions and Monarchists in Dublin is in the British Embassy

Perhaps ex-pats might celebrate something outside officialdom in a private residence somewhere but I doubt it.

Brian? · 20-03-2012 09:25PM

Throw a party to say "well done for staying alive for so long" for a woman who is head of state next door by accident of birth? Seems fairly pointless to me.

darkman2 · 20-03-2012 09:31PM

The OP smells like a troll tbh. In no way shape or form is Dublin "monarchist".:rolleyes:

KeithAFC · 20-03-2012 09:42PM

darkman2 wrote: »

The OP smells like a troll tbh. In no way shape or form is Dublin "monarchist".:rolleyes:

This is not true. Dublin does still have many people who believe in Monarchy and British traditions. There is still plenty of people who support Monarchism in the Republic.

later12 · 20-03-2012 09:45PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

TDublin does still have many people who believe in Monarchy

What constitutes "many"?

Where are you getting this idea?

darkman2 · 20-03-2012 09:45PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

This is not true. Dublin does still have many people who believe in Monarchy and British traditions. There is still plenty of people who support Monarchism in the Republic.

No, there isn't. I can say that without any fear of contradiction.

tiktock7aclock · 20-03-2012 10:00PM

I don't fully agree with the Monarchism comment, but you can't argue Irish people don't take an interest in the Royal Family. You only need to look at the TV statistics for proof. I know many people who were glued to the TV for the Royal Wedding, yet some claim it's not the case:) It was a big topic in the news last year.

Brian? · 20-03-2012 10:21PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

This is not true. Dublin does still have many people who believe in Monarchy and British traditions. There is still plenty of people who support Monarchism in the Republic.

No there aren't. There might be some people, a tiny amount.

Given that I lived in Dublin for 33 years and never met one of them, I am damn sure there are not "plenty" of them.

darkman2 · 20-03-2012 10:28PM

Never met one either. Not a single one.

K-9 · 20-03-2012 10:52PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

This is not true. Dublin does still have many people who believe in Monarchy and British traditions. There is still plenty of people who support Monarchism in the Republic.

Can't think of any. I'd say it's more a "how the UK governs itself is up to them" type feeling, not to be construed as support for the monarchy.

woodoo · 20-03-2012 10:58PM

Kieth it wouldn't kill you to call this country by its proper name. It is Ireland not the Irish Republic.

I had to google what the diamond jubilee was about. I have no interest in it. I don't mind aul Lizzie as a person she seems like a nice woman. I think the monarchy will suffer massively whatever time she goes though.

meglome · 20-03-2012 11:16PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

This is not true. Dublin does still have many people who believe in Monarchy and British traditions. There is still plenty of people who support Monarchism in the Republic.

Personally never met any, though I'm sure they could exist. Most Irish people I've come across don't see the point of a monarchy.

If the UK wants to have some nice pomp for visitors good luck to them. I personally can't ever except that someone is better or should automatically be respected by virtue of their birth, makes no sense.

sarumite · 20-03-2012 11:19PM

woodoo wrote: »

Kieth it wouldn't kill you to call this country by its proper name. It is Ireland not the Irish Republic.

I had to google what the diamond jubilee was about. I have no interest in it. I don't mind aul Lizzie as a person she seems like a nice woman. I think the monarchy will suffer massively whatever time she goes though.

I agree about calling the country by its right name....of course the same thing could be asked about people when referring to a head of state.

RichardAnd · 20-03-2012 11:29PM

I would congratulate Her Majesty. People here can play it down if they wish but the Queen has reigned with dignity and respect for six decades and has preformed very well in her role as the Head of State for many nations.

Only one other British monarch has held the throne for over sixty years, Queen Victoria. It's a rare event historically for our closest neighbours and it's not simply about the Queen herself.

woodoo · 21-03-2012 01:10AM

RichardAnd wrote: »

I would congratulate Her Majesty. People here can play it down if they wish but the Queen has reigned with dignity and respect for six decades and has preformed very well in her role as the Head of State for many nations.

Only one other British monarch has held the throne for over sixty years, Queen Victoria. It's a rare event historically for our closest neighbours and it's not simply about the Queen herself.

Aul Lizzie has some stamina

deise go deo · 21-03-2012 01:14AM

Can someone explain why we should care about an unelected foreign head of state's birthday?

I don't care about Michael D's birthday, I am hardly going to care about the British Monarch's.

Wibbs · 21-03-2012 08:49AM

briankeating wrote: »

No there aren't. There might be some people, a tiny amount.

Given that I lived in Dublin for 33 years and never met one of them, I am damn sure there are not "plenty" of them.

Ditto. Even among types that would be accused of being dyed in the wool "Jackeen west brits". Oh sure you'll get plenty of oul wans reading about Kate's new dress in Hello magazine and the like, but they're hardly monarchists. Not unless Cheryl Cole is also a member of the extended Windsor clan.

As for the Jubilee itself? Yes we should certainly of course send representatives to the knees up as a further bonding thing. I presume we are/will/have? These two islands have a shared cultural history going back many thousands of years, back to the late stone age, never mind our financial links. The further we each go to foster renewed links into the future the better.

junder · 21-03-2012 09:09AM

Perhaps the Dublin and Wicklow orange lodge would be able to parade through thier capital city. The jubilee could be a perfect chance for some reconciliation among some of your own country men and of course it would be seen in a very positively up here in northern Ireland.

sarumite · 21-03-2012 09:26AM

junder wrote: »

Perhaps the Dublin and Wicklow orange lodge would be able to parade through thier capital city. The jubilee could be a perfect chance for some reconciliation among some of your own country men and of course it would be seen in a very positively up here in northern Ireland.

I don't see why the Jubilee (the celebration of another countries monarch) would be a "perfect chance" for reconciliation amongst Irelands "own country men".

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