What do you define as "Football"

CiaranC · 12-03-2012 11:55PM

Seanchai wrote: »

"Mates" - well, isn't that just the giveaway. Go back to your British soccer tv station like a good boy.

PS: It's 'fascist'. What was I saying about the educational level of the "bogball" brigade in Dublin's lower socio-economic areas?

I dont watch British football, I am Irish.

And yes, your ridiculous narrow view of what constitutes Irishness borders on cultural fascism.

LordSutch · 12-03-2012 11:57PM

Seanchai wrote: »

And this from the guy who wears the British poppy, repeatedly glorifies the British Empire, thinks all Irish people who have fought British rule have been "terrorists" and hates everything Irish about Ireland, I'll take it as a compliment. Thank you.

Whats this business about the poppy, empire, hating Ireland rubbish??? you have now brought this up several times in this thread Seanchai!
Take a chill pill man, it seem like anybody who disagrees with you gets shot down . . .

This thread is about Football (various codes of).

K-9 · 13-03-2012 12:01AM

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Steady on there. I object to gaelic football being referred to as "bogball" but calling football/soccer the "garrison game" isn't any better.

Indeed the ban is long gone, my last recollection of it was a Donegal manager banning players playing other games in the the late 80's, effected rugby just as much as soccer funnily enough, in a county not renowned for rugby.

Funny how many of Ireland's famous tries of the last decade are often scored my GAA trained footballers, the chip over to the "corner forward" and over the line!

Most local clubs happily co-exist now and often the challenge is how to manage a GAA player playing soccer and how not to affect his Football playing. With the GAA being so poor at managing games at a club level, its an area soccer should take advantage of.

The "garrison game", ah, the antithesis of the LoI diehard, both have small numbers, fundamentalist but a noisy bunch all the same. Empty vessels make the most noise and all that.

My new are local soccer club was doing well a few years ago, just took the step up to intermediate level, not a bad success rate, though a soccer stronghold. The GAA die hards reaction was"love it, they'll be gone in a couple of reasons". He was right, but most people don't share his hatred. Not as if it will benefit GAA.

The LoI diehard is the exact same, loves seeing the GAA getting bad publicity, never mind if it means nothing for soccer. All the while Hurling is making massive inroads into the LoI stronghold of Dublin.

I remember Dublin not being able to field a team in a Leinster Hurling Championship game not that long ago, about 15 years or so. Look where it is now, the second best team in Leinster, over taking Wexford and Offaly, hurling strongholds and All Ireland champions around that time, 15 years ago. The LoI is still stagnant.

Seanchai · 13-03-2012 12:04AM

CiaranC wrote: »

your ridiculous narrow view of what constitutes Irishness borders on cultural fascism.

This from the guy who was ranting against "bogball" a moment ago. Well done, "mate". :rolleyes:

CiaranC · 13-03-2012 12:08AM

Seanchai wrote: »

This from the guy who was ranting against "bogball" a moment ago. Well done, "mate". :rolleyes:

I already said I prefer "bog wrestling", putting the "ball" in there might lead someone to confuse it with a field sport instead of an event for bating the lads from "the next parish" and sharing tax-evasion tips

Seanchai · 13-03-2012 12:08AM

LordSutch wrote: »

Whats this business about the poppy, empire, hating Ireland rubbish??? you have now brought this up several times in this thread Seanchai!
Take a chill pill man, it seem like anybody who disagrees with you gets shot down . . .

This thread is about Football (various codes of).

Oh it's very relevant. If you were to come out in favour of the GAA it would be stepping outside your tradition and be admirable. But if you're nothing else it's consistent with your British nationalist tradition: poppy-wearing, defending the British Empire, hating Irish freedom fighters, hating Irish games - it's all part of a certain quite ignominious British colonial tradition in Ireland.

LordSutch · 13-03-2012 12:09AM

Seanchai wrote: »

Oh it's very relevant. If you were to come out in favour of the GAA it would be stepping outside your tradition and be admirable. But if you're nothing else it's consistent with your British nationalist tradition: poppy-wearing, defending the British Empire, hating Irish freedom fighters, hating Irish games - it's all part of a certain quite ignominious British colonial tradition in Ireland.

What the hell are you on about, seriously :mad:

SUGGEST YOU READ ALL MY POSTS ON THIS THREAD, AND THINK AGAIN BABY.

Seanchai · 13-03-2012 12:10AM

CiaranC wrote: »

I already said I prefer "bog wrestling", putting the "ball" in there might lead someone to confuse it with a field sport instead of an event for bating the lads from "the next parish" and sharing tax-evasion tips

Keep the grade A anti-Irish bigotry coming (amid the lectures on cultural fascism, of course). :rolleyes:

Seanchai · 13-03-2012 12:12AM

LordSutch wrote: »

What the hell are you on about, seriously :mad:

I'm sure other people can do a search of your current username (try 'Camelot' also) and the words "poppy" and "terrorism" (among other words) to see your true views on things Irish.

K-9 · 13-03-2012 12:12AM

CiaranC wrote: »

What a load of facist ****ehawkery. I follow Irish football, my father followed Irish football and his father followed Irish football. We are every bit as Irish as you and your bogball mates.

Facepalm at the bogball comment.

So nationalistically proud and yet such a fail.

Gaelic football, hurling and handball are our national Irish games,

Class! So proud of Irish football but hates Gaelic!

LordSutch · 13-03-2012 12:16AM

Seanchai wrote: »

I'm sure other people can do a search of your current username and the words "poppy" and "terrorism" (among other words) to see your true views on things Irish.

What has being against Terrorism got to do with Football?

You just keep going on and on and on about Poppies and Empire, and being anti-Irish, but why?

CiaranC · 13-03-2012 12:16AM

Seanchai wrote: »

Keep the grade A anti-Irish bigotry coming (amid the lectures on cultural fascism, of course). :rolleyes:

See there you go again. Being in the GAA and being Irish are in no way equivalent, except in the eyes of a certain type of cultural fascist. There are many types of Irish people, most of which fall outside your deluded far-right leaning definition of what constitutes Irishness. I dislike the GAA and yet I am just as Irish as those who travel "up to the match" twice a year.

Seanchai · 13-03-2012 12:20AM

CiaranC wrote: »

See there you go again. Being in the GAA and being Irish are in no way equivalent, except in the eyes of a certain type of cultural fascist. There are many types of Irish people, most of which fall outside your deluded far-right leaning definition of what constitutes Irishness. I dislike the GAA and yet I am just as Irish as those who travel "up to the match" twice a year.

Congratulations: an entire four sentences without using the word 'bog' to describe Irish people who play Irish sports. See, it really wasn't that hard to not be a bigot, was it.

stovelid · 13-03-2012 12:21AM

K-9 wrote: »

Somebody made reference to the Tallaght stadium dispute. Badly handled. Best thing with LoI clubs is to let them handle their own affairs, chances are the club will eventually go bust anyway, Rovers a notable exception, with the help of the Council.

Funnily enough, the dirty pigs that tried to kill us off are in far worse financial straits now than we ever were.

And as for the council crack: when the Gah slurp off the tit of public money, nobody else gets a look in, unlike the municipal facility we rent that has already hosted other sports (including underage GAA) and community events.

You're just one of many in this country: ready to defend the national sports at the drop of a pin and bleating about national identity but bizarrely inhabiting a parallel world in which you think you are a "manc" or a "scouser".

CiaranC · 13-03-2012 12:23AM

stovelid wrote: »

You're just one of many in this country: ready to defend the notional sports at the drop of a pin and bleating about national identity but bizarrely inhabiting a parallel world in which you are a "manc" or a "scouser".

This.

On the internet denigrating football and football fans, while simultaneously proudly displaying an LFC banner and urging people to boycott The Sun. The mind boggles.

stovelid · 13-03-2012 12:26AM

CiaranC wrote: »

and urging people to boycott The Sun..

Boycott Murdoch media!

but not Sky cos you wouldn't be able to watch the bleeding Pool in the pub innit, la?

Seanchai · 13-03-2012 12:30AM

CiaranC wrote: »

On the internet denigrating football and football fans, while simultaneously proudly displaying an LFC banner and urging people to boycott The Sun. The mind boggles.

stovelid wrote: »

Boycott Murdoch media!

but not Sky cos you wouldn't be able to watch the bleeding Pool in the pub innit, la?

Oh, the delusions that you both think that internal rivalry between supporters of British soccer clubs has any relevancy to people outside the target market of the British soccer industry.

Now, just how many tabs do you both have open at present discussing the football game of another country? Keep these sort of cult interest discussions for marginalised urban communities on one of them. Thank you.

keith16 · 13-03-2012 12:34AM

CiaranC wrote: »

Seanchai wrote: »

Keep the grade A anti-Irish bigotry coming (amid the lectures on cultural fascism, of course). :rolleyes:

See there you go again. Being in the GAA and being Irish are in no way equivalent, except in the eyes of a certain type of cultural fascist. There are many types of Irish people, most of which fall outside your deluded far-right leaning definition of what constitutes Irishness. I dislike the GAA and yet I am just as Irish as those who travel "up to the match" twice a year.

Nobody said they were equivalent. GAA is unquestionably Irish, not vice versa. In other words, GAA is one of those manythings that make us Irish.

So when you use a term like bogball, you insult many for whom Gaelic Games is an important part of their sense of Irish identity. Not so for you and that's fine.

It must be said however that your view of GAA is narrow minded, have a read of your post again, any other sports you can apply "bating the lads from the next parish" mindset to?

Finally, use of the term bogball is nothing less than unfunny childishness tbh.

K-9 · 13-03-2012 12:42AM

stovelid wrote: »

Funnily enough, the dirty pigs that tried to kill us off are in far worse financial straits now than we ever were.

And as for the council crack: when the Gah slurp off the tit of public money, nobody else gets a look in, unlike the municipal facility we rent that has already hosted other sports (including underage GAA) and community events.

You're just one of many in this country: ready to defend the national sports at the drop of a pin and bleating about national identity but bizarrely inhabiting a parallel world in which you think you are a "manc" or a "scouser".

LOL, me a scouser?

Soccer gets plenty of a look in from Lottery and sports funding, so does golf and other such nonsense.

Why such a hatred of the Gah? All I can think of is you came over here, born in England and follow Rovers. Yeah, Rovers had a huge following when in the First Division. I just don't get the chip on the shoulder. Is it an attempt to fit in? Sure Rovers are the the most successful club in the LoI, are you a bandwagon Rovers supporter? The Englishman supporting the best Irish soccer club equivalent?

I've a passing interest in the LoI, don't hate it, wish it well, but I love Gah, when I see a football on the ground, have to fight the natural need to solo it!

Probably should let you and Seanachai get on with it, while the vast, vast majority of people get on with living in the real world. Reminds me too much of Northern politics threads this.

Nodin · 13-03-2012 12:46AM

LordSutch wrote: »

You come across as being very bitter & very angry Seanchai, and of course, its all the fault of the Brits :cool:

...there'd more than him in this thread that could be fired at.

LordSutch · 13-03-2012 12:48AM

True, but he's really on fire tonight

CiaranC · 13-03-2012 12:49AM

Seanchai wrote: »

Oh, the delusions that you both think that internal rivalry between supporters of British soccer clubs has any relevancy to people outside the target market of the British soccer industry.

Seems to have plenty of relevancy to the patrons of my local GAA club, as it is never off the television in there. K-9 seems to find the whole thing quite relevant as a GAA man, have a look at his sig. The soccer forum is full of GAAheads who hate Irish football but love the Queens teams.

GAA fans love British football.

Nodin · 13-03-2012 12:57AM

CiaranC wrote: »

I dont watch British football, I am Irish.

And yes, your ridiculous narrow view of what constitutes Irishness borders on cultural fascism.

....there would appear to be two of you in it. At least.

Seanchai · 13-03-2012 01:00AM

CiaranC wrote: »

Seems to have plenty of relevancy to the patrons of my local GAA club, as it is never off the television in there.

You, you, have a "local GAA club" ("my local GAA club")? And you're such an intrinsic part of it that you know that British soccer is never off the tv in there? (you're an alcoholic who sits at the bar all day?)

Why oh why does all of this sound so naively incredible from the guy who rants against what he terms "bogball"?

In my local GAA club a good section of us went on to play music afterwards on Thursday nights, always had more interesting things to do than watch soccer, and had 70% or so of our conversations in Irish along the way. Somehow, I think you'd have a special hatred for us.

stovelid · 13-03-2012 01:05AM

Seanchai wrote: »

In my local GAA club a good section of us went on to play music afterwards on Thursday nights, always had more interesting things to do than watch soccer, and had 70% or so of our conversations in Irish along the way. Somehow, I think you'd have a special hatred for us.

Sounds like a riveting night all round.

K-9 · 13-03-2012 01:07AM

CiaranC wrote: »

Seems to have plenty of relevancy to the patrons of my local GAA club, as it is never off the television in there. K-9 seems to find the whole thing quite relevant as a GAA man, have a look at his sig. The soccer forum is full of GAAheads who hate Irish football but love the Queens teams.

GAA fans love British football.

Lol, the Queens team, sure didn't Tyrone, Armagh, Down and Derry all win All Irelands recently and no Queen to present it.

And Liverpool is different!

Not quite part of England, a strong anti-Queen, Tory and very independent feel! LOL

Ah, you're a great caricature poster, good craic.

CiaranC · 13-03-2012 01:07AM

Seanchai wrote: »

You, you, have a "local GAA club" ("my local GAA club")? And you're such an intrinsic part of it that you know that British soccer is never off the tv in there? (you're an alcoholic who sits at the bar all day?)

Why oh why does all of this sound so naively incredible from the guy who rants against what he terms "bogball"?

In my local GAA club a good section of us went on to play music afterwards on Thursday nights, always had more interesting things to do than watch soccer, and had 70% or so of our conversations in Irish along the way. Somehow, I think you'd have a special hatred for us.

I think you should save your vitriol for the hundreds of gah-heads posting about Her Royal Highnesses association football teams over on the soccer forum mate, instead of having a go at Irish people supporting Irish grassroots, fan owned, volunteer run, community based sports club in Ireland.

Oh, and you get extra Irish-points for speaking As Gaelige, well done. You truly are the most Irishist guy ever. Up the RA

dr.bollocko · 13-03-2012 01:21AM

mod:

Seanchai and ciaranc banned.

Think we're about to finish this thread up.

K-9 · 13-03-2012 01:21AM

stovelid wrote: »

Boycott Murdoch media!

but not Sky cos you wouldn't be able to watch the bleeding Pool in the pub innit, la?

LOL, never had Sky Sports in my house, I hate Shelock, love Sherlock the TV series.

So what's the deal with you supporting the most successful soccer team in Ireland?

Go on, dare you, answer a question, break the habit of your posting on the thread. Genuinely interested in your answer. Young English lad moves over to Ireland and supports the most successful club in the LoI.

Not answering tells a lot, not that different from a young 80's generation Irish lad following Liverpool.

Jimoslimos · 13-03-2012 01:21AM

stovelid wrote: »

Funnily enough, the dirty pigs that tried to kill us off are in far worse financial straits now than we ever were.

And as for the council crack: when the Gah slurp off the tit of public money, nobody else gets a look in, unlike the municipal facility we rent that has already hosted other sports (including underage GAA) and community events.

Dirty pigs? So a local dispute over access to a publically funded sports ground has led to this bitterness against the entire GAA. Rovers weren't completely blameless with regards to their dire financial situation at the time. You might also find that there was plenty of normal GAA folk who supported Rovers at the time so quieten down with the vitriol

CiaranC wrote: »

GAA fans love British football.

Maybe cos they're used to a higher standard of football than LoI;)

What do you define as "Football"

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