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Immigrants in Ireland

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  • #32
    RoundyMooney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭RoundyMooney


    Whatever about the onslaught of generalisations and arguing that this thread will now doubt generate if it manages to survive the day-posting that bloody South Park video every time someone mentions a non Irish citizen should be punishable by extradition-preferably to Siberia.


  • #33
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,182 ✭✭✭dvpower


    EE are very cold
    BarackPyjama wrote: »
    I assume he/she wasn't talking about wintertime in Poland.

    That wasn't the quote. It was:
    SWL wrote: »
    many EE are very cold.
    which has a certain amount of truth about it particularly among the older generations in post soviet states - there was an understandable culture of not being very open to strangers. I don't see pointing this out as being racist.

    You, on the other hand, are a different story. tbh, I can't seriously take lessons on racism from someone who comes out with this bile:
    BarackPyjama wrote: »
    .. we're largely a nation of lazy, greedy, gormless, entitled, unintelligent, jingoistic, racist alcoholics ...


  • #34
    Peetrik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭Peetrik


    JONJO THE MISER wrote: »
    Polish by far, very cold and sour lot.

    I've been to most countries in Europe and I find the Polish to be the most similar to the Irish people out of anywhere else in Europe.

    Similar Religious history
    We like a drink
    Recently occupied by a larger neighbouring country

    The only real difference between the Irish and the Polish, apart from the language, is that we came into a few bob for a while and some eejits started to think they were better than everyone else because of it.


  • #35
    SONIC2008
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭SONIC2008


    not yet wrote: »
    I for one am sick to death of this sh1t, Please explain to me how a comment about people from another country being cold or not warming to someone else is racist. There are to many people in this country just waiting to jump on the racist bandwagon if an opinion does not sit well with them regarding non nationals.

    I'm with you here, it seems we are only allowed to make positive comments about non-nationals or else we are racist. Like there is a thread here on boards about Irish men being the ugliest in the world. Jaysus if I said that about another country I'd be slammed for being a racist. It's gone beyond a joke.


  • #36
    SWL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭SWL


    BarackPyjama wrote: »
    You're familiar with the concept of the EU, right? You have a right to work in a country without having to like the people.

    [/COLOR]

    Oh you're an immigrant! That makes your racist generalisations okay then. Carry on.

    Do you understand the dictionary definition of racism, please inform me that English is not your first language so I can make an allowance for your stupidity.

    Please highlight what is racist in my statement.


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  • #37
    BarackPyjama
    Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    Looking down your nose and making offensive generalisations about another race, creed, group, nationality, etc. is racist. Claiming that a certain nationality is 'cold' (meaning... frosty personality? unfriendly? hostile? I don't know) is racist.
    racism |ˈrāˌsizəm|

    the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
    • prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief: a program to combat racism


  • #38
    not yet
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    SWL wrote: »
    Do you understand the dictionary definition of racism, please inform me that English is not your first language so I can make an allowance for your stupidity.

    Please highlight what is racist in my statement.

    fooking class response. well done my man.


  • #39
    BarackPyjama
    Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    not yet wrote: »
    fooking class response. well done my man.

    Ah yeah, jazis. bleedin deadly bud, w00t lol.

    Please see definition of racism above. Imbeciles.


  • #40
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,182 ✭✭✭dvpower


    BarackPyjama wrote: »
    Looking down your nose and making offensive generalisations about another race, creed, group, nationality, etc. is racist. Claiming that a certain nationality is 'cold' (meaning... frosty personality? unfriendly? hostile? I don't know) is racist.
    Are you a racist?


  • #41
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    bwatson wrote: »
    British people in Ireland are of course foreign migrants.

    Irish people in Britain are also foreign migrants and I think that just about everyone in Britain would recognize that, including the Irish migrants.

    I know you are a republican and as such want to claim my home country as part of your own, but now you have gone up a level and are trying to claim the rest of the United Kingdom as yours too! ;)

    Anyway, research on the topic suggests that both the British and Irish government have imposed controls which have more or less ended the "passport free zone" agreement.

    Only you could turn a gesture of goodwill into something negative. I tip my hat to you.


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  • #42
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    crfcaio wrote: »
    Okay, I should have been more specific:

    What's the largest immigrant group in Ireland?

    Foreigners:rolleyes::rolleyes:

    They all look the same to me:D


  • #43
    SONIC2008
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭SONIC2008


    BarackPyjama wrote: »
    Looking down your nose and making offensive generalisations about another race, creed, group, nationality, etc. is racist. Claiming that a certain nationality is 'cold' (meaning... frosty personality? unfriendly? hostile? I don't know) is racist.

    When did he ever say all members of a race were cold?? Many EE are very cold, so are many Irish! Get a life!


  • #44
    not yet
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    BarackPyjama wrote: »
    Ah yeah, jazis. bleedin deadly bud, w00t lol.

    Please see definition of racism above. Imbeciles.

    Ohhh you are a clever little man ain't ya BUD


  • #45
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    SONIC2008 wrote: »
    When did he ever say all members of a race were cold?? Many EE are very cold, so are many Irish! Get a life!

    Better blankets, more hats & scarves, gloves, better jumpers...:D


  • #46
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,182 ✭✭✭dvpower


    BarackPyjama wrote: »
    Looking down your nose and making offensive generalisations about another race, creed, group, nationality, etc. is racist. Claiming that a certain nationality is 'cold' (meaning... frosty personality? unfriendly? hostile? I don't know) is racist.

    racism |ˈrāˌsizəm|

    the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
    • prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief: a program to combat racism


    These definitions are completely at odds.


  • #47
    BarackPyjama
    Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    dvpower wrote: »
    Are you a racist?

    Obviously, yeah. :rolleyes:


  • #48
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    racist

    If you're a white man, this is what you are. It doesn't even matter if your wife is black and you have an adopted child from India, or how many black friends you have, somehow you're going to end up being a racist according to how the media portrays the white man as "racist whities".

    All of this is funny because the white man is the one that is stereotyped as being racist, which is hypocrisy at its best. It's racist to assume that white men are racists.

    If you don't get offended by racial insults, then you're apparently racist too, but an actual racist would get offended by it. When you hear a certain word too much (I'm sure we've all heard "cracka" hundreds of times thanks to standup comedy) then you become desensitized to it.

    Well, that and the words white people get called sound stupid or non-offending. "cracker" came from cracking whips. Indiana Jones cracked whips too, and he was a badass. "honkey" sounds like some kind of gigantic sandwich, and "white boy" makes you seem like the lone white kid in breakdance movies that stands out amongst the other races and white kids. Most people only really think of rednecks when they think of "white trash" so they don't get offended by it if they're not rednecks.


    Statistics guy: It was found out that the majority of blacks in America listen to hip hop---
    Overzealous guy: WTF YOU RACIST I HAVE A BLACK FRIEND THAT DOESN'T LISTEN TO HIP HOP
    Statistics guy: But I said the majority, meaning not all of th---
    Overzealous guy: YEAH WHATEVER HITLER


  • #49
    SWL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭SWL


    BarackPyjama wrote: »
    Looking down your nose and making offensive generalisations about another race, creed, group, nationality, etc. is racist. Claiming that a certain nationality is 'cold' (meaning... frosty personality? unfriendly? hostile? I don't know) is racist.

    I didn’t claim an entire nationality was cold, I said many; as in many Irish people have red hair and freckles which mean that some have and some don’t or do the thought police think is that racist.


  • #50
    BarackPyjama
    Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    I get it. You're not racist but...


  • #51
    not yet
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    BarackPyjama wrote: »
    Ah yeah, jazis. bleedin deadly bud, w00t lol.

    Please see definition of racism above. Imbeciles.[/QUO
    Just on a side note...is the statement above not demeaning and racist in it overtone. You are assuming I am a tracksuit wearing, dutch gold drinking, dole collecting scummer.......oh fook wait, that's racist in it's self. my bad.


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  • #52
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    BarackPyjama wrote: »
    Obviously, yeah. :rolleyes:

    I hear your a racist now father...:D


  • #53
    BarackPyjama
    Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    not yet wrote: »
    You are assuming I am a tracksuit wearing, dutch gold drinking, dole collecting scummer.......oh fook wait, that racist in it's self. my bad.

    Please don't tell me what I'm 'assuming' or put words into my mouth. If you must know, I was just assuming that you're an idiot. Nothing more.


  • #54
    BarackPyjama
    Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    micropig wrote: »
    I hear your a racist now father...:D

    http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-ash2/50334_101014376608751_3364_n.jpg


  • #55
    Old Tom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭Old Tom


    not yet wrote: »
    I for one am sick to death of this sh1t, Please explain to me how a comment about people from another country being cold or not warming to someone else is racist.
    Well my dear, imagine I am also sick to death of sh1t that's being shared here by individuals like our miserable expert Jonjo.

    Agree, maybe it shouldn't be called "racist", but making statements like this about apparently - according to Jonjo - largest group of foreign nationals (I'm sure our little expert Jonjo provides us with the exact, valid numbers of immigrants in the State...) is just pure and utter crap.

    If someone said that all the Irish are alcoholics and red heads hooked on the gear - it's stupid generalisation, same as the one about the Poles.

    I've seen many posts by Jonjo pointed directly at the Poles, however at this stage I am pretty sure that he's ignorance does not let him see the difference between any of the countries east from Berlin.


  • #56
    not yet
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    BarackPyjama wrote: »
    Please don't tell me what I'm 'assuming' or put words into my mouth. If you must know, I was just assuming that you're an idiot. Nothing more.


    Oh my, you are a pompous little Richard cranium


  • #57
    BarackPyjama
    Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    not yet wrote: »
    Oh my, you are a pompous little Richard cranium

    I'd rather be that than an ignorant, bigoted idiot. :)


  • #58
    not yet
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    BarackPyjama wrote: »
    Maybe they're not cold. Maybe they just don't like us because we're largely a nation of lazy, greedy, gormless, entitled, unintelligent, jingoistic, racist alcoholics so they choose not to warm too us.

    Bye Bye for now, I'm off to the park to do some of the sh1t above. Hope I see some poles so I can shout racist abuse at them. roll on Tuesday.........ahhhh dole day, the bestest day of the week. (maaa is me tracksuit ready.)


  • #59
    not yet
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    Oh and if you want a reference to bigotry....have a look at your post. cheerio.


  • #60
    BarackPyjama
    Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    not yet wrote: »
    Oh and if you want a reference to bigotry....have a look at your post. cheerio.

    Cryptic. Enjoy the park.


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  • #61
    Seomra Mushie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Seomra Mushie


    The "Polish people are dour" viewpoint is such nonsense! Some probably are, but um, so are some Irish people! What with people being different and all.


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