Is China Next?

patwicklow · 09-03-2012 02:34AM #1

Over the course of three short months, popular uprisings have toppled regimes in Tunisia and Egypt, sparked a civil war in Libya and created unrest in other parts of the Middle East. They also have raised a question in many people's minds: Are all authoritarian regimes now threatened by this new democratic wave? In particular, is China, a rising superpower, vulnerable to these forces?

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-china-next-2011-03-11

mallachyrivers · 09-03-2012 02:37AM

Maybe

Havermeyer · 09-03-2012 02:40AM

Hu knows.

Chuck Stone · 09-03-2012 02:41AM

Hopefully.

patwicklow · 09-03-2012 02:43AM

Gonna be one mega crash lads.. watch this space...

Typewriter · 09-03-2012 02:47AM

Free Tibet!

Chuck Stone · 09-03-2012 02:52AM

patwicklow wrote: »

Gonna be one mega crash lads.. watch this space...

Meh.

There's always someone saying that the system is about to collapse but it never seems to happen. Either we (as in 'the west') have been getting incredibly lucky or a collapse is unlikely.

Just my opinion of course because nobody can predict the future in the long term*.

*Except that death and taxes are inevitable.

joshrogan · 09-03-2012 02:54AM

No, There's always a small pockets of protests/demonstrations popping up here and there in China but they quiet down after a few days.

Doc Ruby · 09-03-2012 02:54AM

Typewriter wrote: »

Free Tibet!

I'll take it!

patwicklow · 09-03-2012 02:57AM

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Meh.

There's always someone saying that the system is about to collapse but it never seems to happen. Either we (as in 'the west') have been getting incredibly lucky or a collapse is unlikely.

Just my opinion of course because nobody can predict the future in the long term*.

*Except death and taxes are inevitable.

它真的會發生和我說，看這個空間

MungBean · 09-03-2012 02:57AM

Nope.

MungBean · 09-03-2012 02:58AM

Typewriter wrote: »

Free Tibet!

Doc Ruby wrote: »

I'll take it!

Dont be so eager, its probably another "Free Willy" deal. Boy did I get screwed on that one.

patwicklow · 09-03-2012 03:00AM

MungBean wrote: »

Dont be so eager, its probably another "Free Willy" deal. Boy did I get screwed on that one.

看這個空間

milehip1 · 09-03-2012 03:01AM

nope ,they'll crush it like a heron's egg, a fragile beautiful egg, and the rest of the world wont say a dam thing.

09-03-2012 03:04AM

Very unlikely, the Government has such control over the lives of ordinary citizens it won't happen, well not in the near future anyway.

China is still growing "economically" very rapidly, turning substance farmers into workers & consumers is still ongoing and there are still about 500 million or so people who are still living the same lifestyles as their ancestors.

There are stories of frequent disturbances and in most cases a compromise is reached to resolve the issues, failing that it is suppressed.

China is still on the up!

RichieC · 09-03-2012 03:07AM

No, I doubt it. it has a rather huge and still growing middle class. much as you wish, i doubt it.

rossie1977 · 09-03-2012 03:21AM

any attempted uprising in china would make syria look like a childrens tea party in comparison

Chuck Stone · 09-03-2012 03:28AM

milehip1 wrote: »

nope ,they'll crush it like a heron's egg, a fragile beautiful egg, and the rest of the world wont say a dam thing.

Personally I think that greater freedom for Chinese people is inevitable. One down turn in the Chinese economy and there could be a revolution from below.

People naturally want to be free and when they get a taste of it it is hard to rewrite that memory.

al28283 · 09-03-2012 03:28AM

NO, China is like the honey badger, and the honey badger doesn't give a ****

blatantrereg · 09-03-2012 03:29AM

No. China is politically stable and has a strong economy.

Reforms in the USSR started at the top during Gorbachev's regime, years before the dissolution of the Union. Their economy was bad when he came into power. When there was a coup, it was by hardline members of the Communist party, not by rebel democrats. The revolutions in the Warsaw Pact countries occurred because Gorbachev explicitly promised that the USSR wouldn't interfere in the event of revolution.

North Africa is known for political instability in general and for bad economies.

charlemont · 09-03-2012 03:41AM

Hopefully not as the last thing the world needs is a billion people fighting each other and the CIA etc getting involved to help stir up hatred. China isn't doing too bad for itself, I'm not saying its perfect, far from it but at least its been improving rapidly.

Sindri · 09-03-2012 04:26AM

No, the Chinese are content, as we were, with economic prosperity.

When their economy downturns, that's when the people will start to demand more freedoms and then the Chinese authorities will attempt to suppress them, and they will probably succeed.

China, if their system were to come crashing down as they could no longer supply that growth or even a homoeostasis, will be ****ed, but it is possible, however unlikely that China's political culture and landscape will mature or else eventually end up as something similar to a plutocracy.

/meandering post

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 09-03-2012 04:36AM

blatantrereg wrote: »

No. China is politically stable and has a strong economy.

Reforms in the USSR started at the top years beforehand during Gorbachev's regime. Their economy was bad when he came into power. When there was a coup, it was by hardline members of the Communist party, not by rebel democrats. The revolutions in the Warsaw Pact countries occurred because Gorbachev explicitly promised that the USSR wouldn't interfere in the event of revolution.

North Africa is known for political instability in general and for bad economies.

Sindri wrote: »

No, the Chinese are content, as we were, with economic prosperity.

When their economy downturns, that's when the people will start to demand more freedoms and then the Chinese authorities will attempt to suppress them, and they will probably succeed.

China, if their system were to come crashing down as they could no longer supply that growth or even a homoeostasis, will be ****ed, but it is possible, however unlikely that China's political culture and landscape will mature or else eventually end up as something similar to a plutocracy.

/meandering post

****sake lads, it's 4.30am and this is AH....

[Jackass] · 09-03-2012 04:40AM

Topple the Chinese Government??? There's more chance of George W. Bush taking a casual stroll alone in the scenic hills of Afghanistan...

Sindri · 09-03-2012 04:41AM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

****sake lads, it's 4.30am and this is AH....

It's 3:40.

Haha! Bet you feel foolish now you foolish fool!

Lanaier · 09-03-2012 04:51AM

No.

Standard of living here is far far higher than places like Libya, also the (huge) middle class is generally doing pretty well.

Also there are cultural differences to consider, it's just not in the blood (of many) here to protest or defy the government.

Now if KFC makes a mistake with coupons or someone in France makes a slightly mean comment that "hurts China's feelings" and there happens to be a place nearby with a slightly French sounding name.....gad help ya bai.
Riots are no problem for petty, materialistic **** like that.

There is also the fact that no matter how bad China might look to you, it's actually doing pretty well in the scheme of things.
Things ARE and have been changing here steadily for years, and the vast majority have been improvements.

I would say that such a "revolution" might be possible in 20 years but the fact is that it would be such a different place in 20 years that the changes may come about naturally.

Then there is the fact that the vast majority if China's working/farming class (the largest demographic here) are not well educated and are generally clueless about the world.
I love democracy as much as the next guy, but to frank I find the thought of this uneducated populous controlling China via democratic vote more than slightly alarming.

At best things would simply be the way they are now but with more corruption.
At worst?....... The devil you know.

Still, a kick up the arse is needed, I'd love to see them getting into gear but I'm doubting it.

patwicklow wrote: »

看這個空間

Just so you know, that doesn't mean the same thing in Chinese that it does in English, also..traditional characters make my brain hurt.

Lanaier · 09-03-2012 04:52AM

Sindri wrote: »

It's 3:40.

Haha! Bet you feel foolish now you foolish fool!

11:52 AM here, NOW how fooly is the fooly fool!

Sindri · 09-03-2012 04:53AM

Lanaier wrote: »

No.

Standard of living here is far far higher than places like Libya, also the (huge) middle class is generally doing pretty well.

Also there are cultural differences to consider, it's just not in the blood (of many) here to protest or defy the government.

Now if KFC makes a mistake with coupons or someone in France makes a slightly mean comment that "hurts China's feelings" and there happens to be a place nearby with a slightly French sounding name.....gad help ya bai.
Riots are no problem for petty, materialistic **** like that.

There is also the fact that no matter how bad China might look to you, it's actually doing pretty well in the scheme of things.
Things ARE and have been changing here steadily for years, and the vast majority have been improvements.

I would say that such a "revolution" might be possible in 20 years but the fact is that it would be such a different place in 20 years that the changes may come about naturally.

Then there is the fact that the vast majority if China's working/farming class (the largest demographic here) are not well educated and are generally clueless about the world.
I love democracy as much as the next guy, but to frank I find the thought of this uneducated populous controlling China via democratic vote more than slightly alarming.

At best things would simply be the way they are now but with more corruption.
At worst?....... The devil you know.

Still, a kick up the arse is needed, I'd love to see them getting into gear but I'm doubting it.

Just so you know, that doesn't mean the same thing in Chinese that it does in English, also..traditional characters make my brain hurt.

Are you the PR Director for the Chinese government?

Lanaier · 09-03-2012 04:54AM

Sindri wrote: »

Are you the PR Director for the Chinese government?

Was my post somehow overly pro-China?

Sindri · 09-03-2012 04:54AM

Lanaier wrote: »

11:52 AM here, NOW how foory is the foory foor!

Now that is racial stereotyping at it's finest!

Sindri · 09-03-2012 04:57AM

Lanaier wrote: »

Was my post somehow overly pro-China?

Yeah, I'd say you have a gun to your head this very moment.

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